Is it normal i like tormenting animals?

I 'like' tormenting small animals but I don't really want to like it if that makes sense.

I avoid those kind of videos which expose animal cruelty, like the kind that PETA put out. But on the other hand, one of my favorite sites is negotiationisover.com which is a 'by any means necessary' animal rights blog. I like the way they turn everything into animal abuse and the way they describe it.

I should just avoid animals, right?

The problem is my job. It's in biomed and we do animal experiments. Don't get me wrong, we don't actually torture animals. But there is perfusions, which involves grabbing the beating heart of the mouse and putting a needle into it to remove the blood from its body. The blood goes everywhere. The mouse is dead, but I imagine to myself that its still sentient. And then to kill mouse pups, the humane way is decapitation. Basically just snipping the heads off. Sometimes the body will wriggle around after. Also when killing them with an overdose of anesthetic I like to hold them so I can feel them dying. But what I like best is restraining them. Animals hate being restrained and I like the way there is not much they can do about it.

I am quite good at sensing when an animal is suffering which has been helpful I can figure out ways of making procedures less stressful. For example the most stressful part of injecting rats is restraining them to the point where they have no control. If I restrain them in a way they feel like they're in control, then it becomes easier. Many researchers are indifferent to animal pain/stress unless it is obvious not because they are heartless but because they genuinely don't know. This has made me *look* more empathetic towards animals but they all don't know their suffering is somehow making me feel good!

And what am I going to say, 'sorry I refuse to work with animals because I think I'm enjoying this too much?'

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Comments ( 27 )
  • dappled

    Please be a troll. Please be a troll. Please be a troll.

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    • Viviann

      I am assuming that's a no? If so, what can I do about it?

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  • zchristian

    1.Get help
    2.Keep getting help
    3.Dont go near animals
    4.???
    5.Profit

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    • Viviann

      Get help for what exactly?

      Now I'm not sure if you've read what I actually wrote or just the title because it is not possible for me to not go near animals because I *work* with them.

      I also don't really have an urge or am compelled to hurt any animals, all of what I described above are part of protocol and are what the law around animals in research consider humane. But humane doesn't mean the animals are completely stress/pain free and they are killed at the end of experiments.

      I just want to make it clear that this is not the kind of stuff I just do for fun. I do it because I have to. Kind of like if a nurse was to come on here and say that they liked giving injections especially to people who are scared of them.

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      • sYki

        After reading this reply(and between the lines) it oddly makes sense. Basically shes saying she cares for them enough that she doesnt want to kill them when they're comfortable(happy), she only does it when they are in a state of panic(sad) but still has respect for them to let them be the ones in control as they pass. Shes a misunderstood sweetheart and only does it for school as a sacrifice to protocol to learn cause she wants a good life.

        *I'm gonna continue to read the comments under this cause im almost positive your gonna get flamed and ill read you trying to defend yourself cause people misunderstood you. Your reply stated above was all I needed, there's nothing wrong with you.*

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        • sYki

          *called it on the flaming*

          If someone was holding a gun to your head and said they'd let you live if you killed one of 2 dogs which would you kill? The one coming to lick your face a bunch or the one coming to rip your throat out with its teeth, which would you choose? She does it to ones in distress as a means to cope with taking their lives cause she doesn't really want to kill them.

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  • WeBeDealinThem

    You are sick, please get help.

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    • Viviann

      What am I sick with?

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  • thecoldhardtruth

    This post made me feel sick. No it's not normal. Please stop doing that.

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  • alv1592

    Agree with Dappled...I hope you're a troll. If not, please stay away from animals!

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    • Viviann

      See my reply to zchristian.

      Staying away from animals is not an option!

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  • Yandaman

    Surely this cant be right!

    animals now, humans later hey! and dont fucking deny it for one second that it hasnt crossed your sick little mind that you would know how to kill a human using whatever drugs you could get your killer hands on!

    SEEK HELP KEVORKIAN WANNABE!

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    • Viviann

      Yes, Pentobarbital can kill humans too.

      Lets say hypothetically I found killing people fun. What a stupid reason to kill someone, right? Why would I do it?

      I don't hurt animals for that reason alone (it's a byproduct).

      As for 'seek help', how? "Hi Mr. Therapist. As part of my job I have to hold down some mice. It kind of feels good. Help?'

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      • Yandaman

        hahahahaha, I see your stance against all our comments is to come in at an angle of humour and relaxation..
        That my friend is once again signs of killer tendancies.. reason I say this.. is because 'serial killers' eg Ted bundy have a unique way of blending in with society...to be normal.. something that I find you are trying to do here by being comical... You also answer your own question above by saying 'Why would I do it'? you do it for fun... you have clearly stated that you enjoy knowing that they cant do anything about it.(serial killer)..Hey bud, whatever floats your boat.. just try keep in mind how defenceless and shit scared you would be if it were you paralysed with fear and some fucker was on his way with a big grin and a pair of scissors to snip your head off.

        Guess its back to work hey!

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        • Viviann

          That's the point, I wouldn't kill something (okay, maaaaybe an insect) ONLY for fun. I haven't killed an animal purely for fun or pleasure even though I have plenty of opportunity to do so. I could also cause a lot more pain. Heck, I could 'accidently' botch up a decapitation in front of everybody if I really wanted to. I don’t – something like that draws the line. So it’s very unlikely that I would want to kill a human.

          As for making animals shirt scared, if you're referring to decapitation, it doesn't happen like it does in the movies. The animal has no idea what the scissors are for and has no idea that its head wil be snipped off. I know because I've held the scissors there and they don't struggle any more. If they do, it's because they're being held down. SO I doubt the animal is 'shit scared' because of that.

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  • godly

    This is funny I hope you are not a troll. There is nothing wrong with enjoying this job.

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  • fanfanackapan

    You sound like a sick fuck.People who abuse animals usually also abuse people or go on to abuse people,possibly even murder them.Get psychiatric help and stay away from animals.

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    • Viviann

      You sound like you didn't read the story.
      1. I don't abuse animals
      2. I work with animals so "stay away from animals". is not an option.

      Hmmm, maybe I need to ask this again with another title.

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  • dude, killing animals is thought to be one of the first signs of a serial killer. Not trying to creep you out or anything, but its true

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    • Viviann

      So all butchers, vets, scientists and animal techs become serial killers? What about people who kill bugs and use rodent traps? How about 'pest' control?

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  • Boredbastard

    oi, go to a psychiatrist.
    it's not quite normal.

    well, some people are sadistic, BUT it's not normal.

    just don't.

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    • Viviann

      I don't get it. 'just don't' what?

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      • Boredbastard

        you don't have to get it. ^^
        beautiful psychedelicity..

        but yeah, there's really nothing we can do about it, except say "it's not normal"..

        well fuck it, don't do it.
        it's no harm if you don't do it at all.

        i might LIKE cutting my wrists or such, but i still don't do it. ^^

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        • Viviann

          Thanks for the reply.

          The problem with 'don't do it' is I have to for work. It's not like I pick up random animals and kill them for fun. I euthanize animals and everything else I describe at work. And I happen to like it. I can't 'just don't' for liking it, because that is not a voluntary reaction.

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          • Boredbastard

            well, then there's no harm happening.

            if you would euthanise them anyways, it doesn't matter whether you hate it or love it.

            at least you won't have any obligations against it, then :p

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  • MissDethstar

    tell me you are a troll !
    This is not normal at all ! I find animal cruelty video/picture awful, sometimes it makes me cry to think humans do this to other living creature....

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  • joy_73in

    are you sure you like doing things to them? or do you simply like the way you have been able to figure things out so that, as you say, the killing can be made less stressful for them? i hope it is the latter, and that you are just trying to do your job in the most humane way possible, and i personally would consider that normal.

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