Is it normal i hate it when people call a criminal ‘insane’?

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Everyone I know does this. The criminals they call insane are mainly the ones who have killed one or more than one person. But I think it’s very ignorant of them to call criminals like that. I always tend to discuss the term with them, but they don’t get my view. I often think society taught them to think like that. Psychopaths (the ones who kill) and other killers aren’t insane, they just think differently or sometimes killing seems like the only solution left. You can’t call them insane if you don’t know the background of a person. They aren’t crazy (although some may be, but in that case you will notice the difference between other killers quite fast).

I must admit I don’t know that much about the reasons why people kill, but I try to understand it. Calling them insane is to me just a sign of laziness, ‘I don’t get why they do the things they do, so I’ll just call them insane and everyone will agree with me’. You also have those people who will say things like ‘if I was with him/her alone in a room, I would give them what they deserve’, the small-minded machos. So, is it normal I hate this?

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  • NotStrangeBird
    10 years ago

    How about that deal in Ohio with that fuckhead who kidnapped those 3 girls?

    He cried in court about how he was 'sick' and it wasn't his fault and bla bla bla.

    The judge then told him to fuck off and gave him life + 1000 years. Kinda satisfying to me but not to them poor girls.

    Fuck, at least Dahmer apologized for what he did.

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      10 years ago

      Hmm, living in Europe, I haven't heard about that?

      I checked an online newspaper and it seems they did write about it, not a lot, but I should have known something about it. Like you say it, it sounds like he uses insanity to make his actions right. Obviously, people will also say he's insane, 'cause that's easier than trying to understand it. I'm not in the right position to say he was sane/insane, since I don't know a lot about it. I can only agree with the punishment, from what you and the newspaper said, he definitely deserved it.

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      • NotStrangeBird
        10 years ago

        Ariel Castro. One of the girls was in court and read a statement. 'My hell is over, yours is just beginning'

        He deserves to be set on fire repeatedly. Hell, maybe daily.

        They were going for the death penalty (which is rare with no murder charges) at first but they cut a deal so the 3 girls wouldn't have to testify and relive the whole thing.

        Nothing's worse than someone abusing those weaker than them for no other reason than the fact that they can.

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        • Anonymous Post Author
          10 years ago

          I read he was also accused of murder because he forced one of the girls to end her pregnancy.

          But that doesn't really matter. It is terrible what he did, and I couldn't agree more with your last sentence. Still, it would bother me if people called him insane, simply because it isn't true. As long as you can think clear and are completely in control of yourself, you're sane. If (which I think is the case here) he's claiming that he's sick to make his punishment lighter, that's not insane, that's thoughtful.

          It's the people's anger that makes him insane. It's easier to accept an insane person did this than knowing a clear thinking human being did this.

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      • RomeoDeMontague
        10 years ago

        If you dont know anything about psychology or about why people kill what makes you think you have any right to say they are not insane. Peadophiles are insane and some have raped, kidnapped, and killed children. Their is no logical reason to rape someone and there is no logic is wanting sex with a child.

        If there is no logical reasoning behind it that is insane. People do case studies on these criminals. Though honestly I think some of them are just dicks. There is a difference between being a dick and being a insane.

        Now I do believe some people are labeled insane as deadly criminals that really are not just really cruel people. If there is a logical reason for something even if its bad than its more forgivable. If someone breaks into your house and you shoot them but it turns out it was your daughter pulling an all nighter well you perceived a threat. That was an accident and the daughter was suppose to be home in bed.

        If you are really going to argue this you could easily study the subject. Its not that hard. You could learn basic psychology but you sound like you are too lazy to even do your own research.

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        • Anonymous Post Author
          10 years ago

          You should put aside your moral standards to be able to think objectively. Paedophiles are not insane, they just have different desires. What I mean is, they are reasonable. They aren't crazy or insane, they are pretty normal, but their desires are just hard to understand. Not understanding a desire/behaviour doesn't immediately mean they are insane. If that was the case, more than the half of the people on IIN would be insane.

          But I think we see insane as a different thing. To me, insane means that there is something seriously wrong in your head. To me an insane person isn't able to behave so perfectly normal in the company of others. I don't think real insanity can be unnoticed. Therefore, I don't believe most of the paedophiles and murderers are insane. And, if the court declares a criminal insane, it means the criminal didn't know that what he did was wrong or that he simply didn't know what he was doing. But most of them do.

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          • RomeoDeMontague
            10 years ago

            I never said anything about morals. This has nothing to do with morals. Also you are basing this off an opinion based on nothing. You apparently from what you said do not know anything about psychology. So you really have no room making this argument at all.

            You are basing your belief on a moral one not a logical one. Its not a different desire. Romance is a science but since you do not know anything about psychology or biology you would not understand this. Which just shows how very uneducated you are. Once again LEARN PSYCHOLOGY BEFORE YOU SPEW THIS SHIT!

            Its based on a number of things. From the body, to an emotional need, to standard of intelligence. If someone is a certien intellectual level they are going to want someone the same level to talk with, if its physical they want something like big boobs, as well as its been proven we give off hormones when we hit puberty that attracts people.

            A child does not give off those hormones, and does not have developed body parts. So that mean there is no logical reasoning behind it. meaning they are insane.

            So sorry doing something with no logical reason is insane. An adult is not going to be at a childs emotional, or intellectual level unless they have something wrong with them. Nothing can attract you to a kid since they are not developed and give off no hormones, and would not be able to keep up with an adult emotionally. So sorry you may want to legally fuck kids but you are insane. Please get some professional help.

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    • [Old Memory]
      10 years ago

      <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPMBfX7D4WU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPMBfX7D4WU</a>

      Dahmer was just clever enough to realise that making excuses makes people more angry, and that owning up and apologizing would "take the wind out of their sails" so to speak. The majority of criminals protest and put on a "I'm sick" attitude to get out of it. Dahmer wasn't a braindead career criminal, he was a well raised and bright man who knew every string to pull. I mean look at the situations he talked himself out of and into when he was on the streets.

      He was slick, not sorry.

      But you're right about this guy that's for sure. He is a fuck, a total fuck.

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      • NotStrangeBird
        10 years ago

        I disagree in that Dahmer knew he was fucked no matter if he apologized, told his victim's families to fuck off, or mooed like a cow. The outcome would have been the same.

        I could see someone faking an apology to lessen a sentence on a minor crime, but there was no way he would have ever seen the light of day.

        Rumor had it that he willingly submitted to his prison murder, another argument for true remorse.

        I would opine that having the upbringing that he did made it MORE likely he was being genuine. Look at what his parents went through.

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        • [Old Memory]
          10 years ago

          I agree that there was a human side left in him, he did allow himself to be killed (even asked for general population instead of PCU)

          But I think the only reason he felt such things, or displayed such things is because he could no longer do what he wanted to do. So he set about suiciding in a way that made himself look a little more honorable in the process.

          I believe he truly felt bad for is parents, he felt bad for the victims, but it wasn't total remorse as he would disregard it the second he got out. It was "situational remorse" because he was off the streets and reality sunk in, put him back out there and that remorse would go straight out the window. I agree it was there, but it wasn't "all consuming" enough to be taken as genuine.

          Whenever I hear the radiohead song "creep" I straight away think of Dahmer lol.

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  • [Old Memory]
    10 years ago

    It's very rare for the court to declare someone "insane". Even most people who are psychotic do not qualify for the insanity plea. For someone to be declared insane they would have to either think they were doing the right thing when they committed the crime or they had no way of not committing the crime such as a loss of control of actions.

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  • shuggy-chan
    10 years ago

    you made me think of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLrnkK2YEcE

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      10 years ago

      That video melted my brain.

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      • shuggy-chan
        10 years ago

        your welcome =D

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  • Brice1
    10 years ago

    No you idiot look up the definition of insane

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      10 years ago

      "Law: a defect of reason as a result of mental illness, such that a defendant does not know what he or she is doing or that it is wrong."

      Now explain yourself.

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  • 2000skid01
    10 years ago

    u r not normal

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