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Well, not all... Just the ones that make their kids act like they're in the fucking army and beat their kids and don't get punished for child abusing because they pull a sympathy card... They make good veterans look bad.
I remember growing up, begging the teachers not to make me go home, and make me go back to that hell with that D on my report card. I wondered why I couldn't do math very well, even though I got A's in everything else, I just couldn't read the numbers! I'd get sent home and show Dad the report card. All I can really remember is being half dude with a belt on my ass, being screamed at about how I was worthless, how he wishes I would die, backhanding me so hard that I fell on the ground where he whipped me with that leather belt and I could feel the pain, but at the same time I couldn't. All I could remember was that the more I cried, the more he beat me and it wouldn't stop.
No help was coming. The pain wouldn't end. No one cared. Because when the school called him in and told him what I was saying, he came in his uniform, and told them of his service, and suddenly every word that he said was gold. He got me diagnosed as a danger to myself and others, Aspergers, and he would go and tell the teachers that I was a Compulsive liar and I was just upset that I was being grounded and I did this all of the time.
They all thought that I was mental, I grew up thinking that *I* was making it all up, that I was having delusions, that none of my life was real and that I really was a liar. Remembering him threatening my life if I told anyone. But that uniform made him impervious. And I know that he is not the only one.
I don't care how many wars that you fight in. There is a special place in hell for men who use an honorable title such as my father did to gain that automatic respect to allow them to continue to harm their children.
Fuck them.
I wasn't aware of this, but I'm tired of veterans pulling sympathy cards all together. They shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.
This has nothing to do with the fact they are veteren it is not ok to do this they are auctully tuaght to not hit the poeple they are training its a rule the fact someone would blame the forces for this is wrong .
Forgive me if my comment comes out as confusing, I'm on the dangerous verge of falling asleep.
I didn't say it was acceptable. It's never acceptable to abuse someone, but my comment was mostly about my dislike of how "civilians" bend over backwards for them that or the soldiers themselves whip out their sympathy cards. Who's blaming the "forces"? I wasn't trying to blame the whole "organization". Just those "people" I aforementioned. You need to relax.
I guess I hate child abusing people full stop so yes they fit Into that category.
You mean like how Casey Anthony got away with murdering her kids?
I haven't seen one veteran get away with child abuse, but I have seen the "Boohoo, I'm emotional" women get away with murder, even child murder.
Of course you don't see them. Because they pull the "military" card and that gets people off of their back! People always assume that "veteran" and being a serviceman automatically means that you have integrity.
Maybe you didn't see my Gulf War vet Dad beat my sister to the point of unconsciousness, maybe you didn't see him hit me as I was rolled in a ball on the floor, begging to Jesus that he would kill me to end the torture, maybe you didn't see him look me in the eyes and tell me that no one was going to save me and maybe you didn't see him hold my neck and tell me that I am so lucky that he is sparing my life, but that doesn't mean that it didn't happen.
This isn't about Casey Anthony and this is no place for your crusade on women. I don't even see where this post mentioned gender. Or maybe, because I am a female, I deserved the abuse and this is a non-issue in your mind, right? Those damned women!
Take it somewhere else. This is a real issue that has affected my life since the moment I was born into it. Fight your gender war elsewhere.
I'll say it one more time.
This isn't the place for your gender war. This topic had nothing to do with Casey Anthony or women in general. Women can be veterans too, get around THAT concept. It's no big deal. What I am saying is that the credibility factor DOES allow them to continue what they are doing, for aforementioned reasons.
"I haven't seen one veteran get away with child abuse"
And you invalidate the topic by saying that you've never seen this happen? I've never seen a murder, a plane crash, a rape, doesn't mean THAT shit never happens.
"I went through things like that with my little brother's bioligical father, and quite more. He was a drug dealer and was never charged for assault, regardless of us trying to get him arrested, that doesn't mean drug dealers have immunity from the law."
This isn't about your drug dealer relative. If you're not going to stay on topic then don't feel the need to give me some bullshit about how you "gave me more credit". :"You seem to be doing the "You just hate men, you want them all to get hurt" thing"" Ah, so THAT'S what you got from what I said? That's what you got from my telling you that it is a valid subject, whether or not that you have experienced it?
I'm not looking for your approval, pal. You want to keep bitching about gender? That's fine. But this isn't a question of gender. You took it to the wrong topic and twisted it to some bullshit about how women get away with murder for crying. We're talking about how veterans get away with child abuse due to their credibility. Not even in the same ball park. If you want to talk about how pissed you are about women getting away with murder for crying, then talk about it in another story, but this isn't place.
If you're going to get pissed off about that and pull your "You're a man hater" card, for telling you that veterans abusing their children is not a gender topic and is a valid topic AND doesn't have anything to do with Casey Anthony, then go right on ahead. I don't even know you, dude.
My point was that "people" in general get away with things like this, not just veterans.
I have many people in my family that are in the military, a few are quite high up, or had been high up and are now dead. None of them have treated their children like this, and three of them have looked after me in my earlier times.
Am I saying that it doesn't happen? No. I'm saying that just like other parts of society, abusers get away with it, not just veterans.
If you didn't understand why I was bringing the drug dealer part in to this, then you are refusing to understand. My point was that someone that had no connections with military or law, someone that was against the law, was able to walk free, even when people, including the local officers knew of his actions. Point being was that someone that wasn't in the military was able to walk away regardless of their actions, while veterans sometimes do the same. It's not "because they're veterans" that the majority get away with it, that would be like saying if the majority of child abusers worked in low pay jobs, that simply because they get away with it due to lack of evidence, somehow low paid job workers are granted immunity from being charged.
That part about hurting men, that was a typo, I meant to put "women", as in you now seem like one of those people that think I am against all women just for the sake of hurting them. My mistake.
People get away with abuse all the time, veterans are one, women are another. The main point I was hoping people would figure out without needing it explained was that there are many bullshit reasons not identified to why people get let off with abuse, so instead of just focusing on one, focus on it all. If you thought that I was trying to say veterans abusing children is ok because women do it, then I have no idea where you got that angle from.
Never said you were looking for my approval, just saying that I thought you had a better understanding on the way I think and the reasons I say things to the point that I don't need to explain it all like I have to with others. I was just saying that I obviously had the wrong thought of you, I never said you wanted to be seen in a positive light from me.
Bitching? Ugh. I thought highly of you, I thought you would regard sexism against males as higher than "bitching". But hey, just like so many others think, if a guy takes more than five minutes to say the male gender is being mistreated, and then doesn't roll over and stop talking about it, he's "bitching".
Like I said, the point wasn't about how "women" get away with it, it was a point that different groups of people in job, social areas, gender get away with things for stupid reasons. Casey Anthony was just one example that happened to be a woman, and that nearly everyone can tell she killed her kids. I mentioned her name and how she got away with it due to the recent publicity she had, and that people would be able to identify with it.
Never would say you're a man hater, but how you say someone defending the inequalities of men as "bitching" gives me the impression you don't hold it as a high problem. I wouldn't say you hate men, just that you don't regard it as more than "bitching".
What bothers me the most, ItDuz, is that you come on to this story that has nothing to do with gender, and start up with your "male inequality" female vs. male crap as if it has anything to do with this post. Then you say "Well I had a drug addict brother in law that beat me, I have Naval officers that treated me nice, I never saw any abuse from veterans" as if it matters in believing whether or not this happens nor has *any* relevance to the OPs post at ALL, you cite a case that you obviously have little knowledge of as evidence (that's what happens when anyone that has seen a CSI episode or watched Law and Order thinks that they are now fluent in legal and criminal matter, ho hum), then you turn around and say that you were just "trying to point out instances in which is also happens in society" while STILL going on about your cause of male inequality when this post has nothing to do with it.
Then you are going to start attacking MY credibility and your feelings for ME as far as respectfulness goes as a form of argumentation against me, and tell me "Oh, I used to have SO much more respect for you". Well if you can't respect someone that believes that there is a time and place for everything, then there is no possible way for you to respect me.
This is a story about veterans abusing their children. You came on here posting some half ass comment about Casey Anthony, women whining and "I've never seen it" and you are attacking ME for disagreeing with what you said and what you were doing, and getting in a hype about ME being unhappy with the lack of seriousness in which you treat this topic?
If that's who you are, then I don't want your respect. And I don't know why anyone else would.
At the very least, if you are going to make a solid argument, state the POINT of the argument rather than throwing bits and pieces out there expecting everyone else to understand.
I get your point.
But we are not talking about Casey Anthony and other people who get away with murder and you are STILL, *STILL* making this about gender! This is not ABOUT gender, this is about veterans using their military status to get away with crimes against their children. If you want to talk about how others use their various excuses to get away with child abuse, do so! But your original post made it solely. about. gender. You did nothing but cite a case that you probably have little knowledge of to begin with.
How about Mr. OJ Simpson? He has a cock, balls and XY chromosomes and I am sure that both he AND Anthony can tell you how cool it is to get away with murder due to A LACK-OF-FORENSIC-EVIDENCE. I'll say this again for emphasis, A-LACK-OF-FORENSIC-EVIDENCE. Want to know why they couldn't convict Casey Anthony? They don't even know what happened. How so? A-LACK-OF-FORENSIC-EVIDENCE. Unless you want to sit there and tell me that a person should be given the death penalty based off of circumstantial evidence and easily disputable forensic evidence. Or maybe just her, because she is a woman? I love how people with a minimal understanding of how the trial process works try to cite cases as points, lol.
"Never would say you're a man hater, but how you say someone defending the inequalities of men as "bitching" gives me the impression you don't hold it as a high problem."
Yes, I hold it as bitching in this case. In any other story in which your bitching was relevant, I would agree with you (to some extent) but this isn't about men. This is about veterans, many of which include men. Or do you consider bitching about both men and women to be an "inequality against men" because men are involved in the group called "veterans"?
Either way, you added your gender issue to a topic in which it was unnecessary, I really would love to see you point out, SOMEWHERE in the OPs post that indicated that this was an issue of male or female. But no. You sit here and say "Oh, well look at these awful women that get away with murder by crying!" then cite the case in which a woman was acquitted because of a LACK-OF-FORENSIC-EVIDENCE "I never see veterans get away with child abuse!" so it must never happen, huh? Well do you also never see men get away with murder, rape, abuse?
My point isn't that there is no such thing as inequality towards men. My point is this: if you're going to wage your gender warfare somewhere, do it in such a manner as it does not invalidate the post. I hate anyone that abuses children. I hate veterans that abuse children. And I hate when people get away with it. This was never a female hating male fuckfest, but you came in here posting this shit like it was, as usual. This isn't the place to point out "inequalities of man". In my eyes, any man or woman that abuses a child is equally going to hell and the simple fact that I need to point out to you that this has little to do with gender and that veterans CAN be females to disappoints me.
no one was convicted in that court house justice did not prevail they just kept tossing the ball back and force between family members so no one could hold a real conviction .
Also since you do not know they do not beat their children in the military they are not allowed to do that they can scream yell and make you do push ups they do not push you a military person beating their children because they said they did it in the military is wrong, they do not do that they are not allowed in case you did not know the rules . This is not a practice they scream and make you exercise and if you are overweight they make you eat right so you can be the proper weight so do not take this as military training its straight out child abuse do not confuse this with the arm forces training . You obviously do not know what goes on in the Army I come from parents and family in the forces . They do not do that they have videos online of what they do in the forces for the marines , for the navy, for the air force , for the Marines they are not allowed to touch you . Incase you did not realize so do not blame this on training
You know, I'm the OP? You just supported your, qoute movie-like villian unqoute's story.
Also that is a Krap service men if he beats his kid and says I can do it I served . They go to jail to that would not get them any sympathy as most poeple now a day hate the militery and thier is bad civilions as thier is a few bad service men and if they are at that moment they are serving they face Miletary jail and the one for the Service is alot worse than the civilion jail .
Vets have nothing to do with child abuse . It just so happens that some Vets abuse poeple they do not speak for vets as a whole of any service . Most vets too are treated like DIRT incase you did not know as I know a few and I know a few who went to War and died with letters in thier pockets to the loved ones they did not get to see, so they could support thier familys and thier countrys they fought to protect . So no Treating your kids like they are in the service does not mean beating the shit out them thats just an ABUSIVE PARENT .