Is it normal for people to front all the time?

we think, or act, like we are decent good people, trustworthy, moral, with something not unlike an air of rightiousness. but we all know the truth..
really, we're all perverted greedy hedonistic and full of shit. is it normal to hide our bad sides and display our better ones or even made up ones to the max. not a single human being is exempt from these characteristics and tendancies. clearly no survival tactic, as we all know its a load of bull....

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  • How exactly does this mean we have no survival tactics? Wouldn't pretending to be something that would help us gain the things we want count as having a good survival tactic?

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    • flutterhigh

      Exactly. Lying evolved as a survival tactic. I saw a program with footage of capuchin monkeys making false "predator alert" screeches so that the other monkeys would flee into the trees, and the liar monkey would steal some of their food. It's an apt comparison because capuchin monkeys have organized, hierarchical societies, so it's not too far off from humans.

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  • dappled

    Nothing is quite what it seems. I used to say the world would be better if everyone was entirely honest, i.e.

    A bully saying: I'm hitting you in the face because I think you're really pretty and I jealous and my father raped my when I was 10 and I'm still angry about that and need an outlet.

    A TV advert saying: You don't really need this product and we don't care what happens to you the moment after the transaction clears. We only pretended to care because we want your money. If we could legally pickpocket you, we wouldn't bother with all this advertising crap.

    A lover saying: Of course I look at other people. Yes, I fantasise about them sometimes and I lie and pretend I don't because it makes you insecure and then you get onto me about it. When you catch me lying or watching porn when I said I wouldn't, it makes you think I am lying about the bigger things. The said thing is, I wasn't.

    The problem is, in a perfect world of entirely honest people, the lying man is king. Heh, the Lyin' King!

    I just amused myself there and forgot the point I was trying to make.

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    • blondbond69

      Amazing

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    • flutterhigh

      Are you familiar with Mowrer's integrity therapy?

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      • dappled

        Nope, but I like that you tell me these things because I then go and read about them.

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        • flutterhigh

          I've found that there's surprisingly little written on him, but I learned about him in a psychology lecture once.

          He essentially agreed with what you just said. The basic tenet of his theories was that all social anxiety stems from incompatibilities that are obfuscated by our tendency to lie all the fucking time. He proposed that if we all dropped our masks and faced all the genuine conflict we've been avoiding, we would discover the degree to which we are truly compatible with various people and develop our relationships accordingly.

          Pretty interesting.

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          • dappled

            I've just been having a bit of a read about him. It is interesting stuff. Although it wasn't explicitly mentioned, I couldn't help but think about the Catholic concept of confession (plus the way I sometimes deal with this site). That only seems to be a partial step, though, and I like Mowrer's more expansive answer. It also reminds me of a quote of Henri-Frédéric Amiel (which I often used as justifying my position).

            "Truth above all, even when it upsets us and overwhelms us."

            I would like a couple of weeks in Mowrer-World to see what it may be like. Although one question, I guess, is whether ad-men have a conscience and so would gradually adapt or fall into depression. Or whether they don't have one.

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  • thinkingaboutit

    OK what is your point?

    We are the best there is.

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  • disthing

    Do you not think perhaps it's the concealment and suppression of our worst traits that is the sincerest display of a good person?

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  • Allistalla

    so your just spewing bullshit we all ready new stop crying you whiney little ass we all know you want us to feel bad about ourselves and alot of us already have insucurities stop crying about life becuase that is the only way to survive in this world incase you have not figured it out already thanks for sharing

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    • Iranianlionheart2

      tbh.. im bored at work and it just occurred to me... myself being the test subject... anyway allistalla, my dear, dont worry too much. its not that serious.

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      • Allistalla

        did you like my comment ?

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  • Allistalla

    Thats becuase scociety says we have to be so infact this is a method of avioding detection , like if someone is very perverted but thier presseured by thier family or parents and pushed that any form of sex or sexuel thought is bad they will repress it becuase of guilt or pressure when infact they want to let it out but they can not . If someone is instictivley ill like a rapist they are not gonna tell anyone becuase they know they are gonna stop , if someone hates you and wants to kill you tehy will not say its becuase it is a threat and if someone loves someone else they may not say it becuase they may be humiliated or otherwise if the person does not return their regaurds . So its simple infact we are put under pressure not to do things , even the simpliest things are regarded as ill or wrong in many cultures , sex for one is a highly revired subject that if given high importance but at the same high displinary thoughts as in you must not if * your not married * your this age * its the same gender ECS . which in alot of cases these rules make sense or most of them make sense . Like dont have sex before marriage becuase its more respectful to yourself and your not leaving babys everywere that are unwanted or this assure the other is less likely to leave you . some say not till a certien age this assures their more chance youll be able to support the child and you are pychiclly and mentelly mature enough to give birth , have sex and have a child. so That awsner is simply that . Pressure ,apperence and Restrictions . Depending on the land and cultures their is diffrent restrictions and in diffrent households and religions thier is diffrent restrictions . now I am not saying rape or killing is correct it most certeienly is not , but thats why infact we have that restriction in most cultures and religous beliefs becuase we know this act is wrong so we add a restriction and laws are based on what we think should be restrictions . so they so , dont rape dont kill that is bad ( loggicly that is very bad right ? ) but inside a household in a smaller scale thier is other restrictions like Dont marry outside our race , or only marry within our religion . some may also think that any form of diffrence or creativity is evil sick or wrong , sometimes this may be correct depending on the case not always however . but those are debatable restrictions to genrel world wide restrictions like the harming other laws . Pretty simple right?. So even if their lieing its becuase they have to and think about this thier is some things that should be exceptable and normol like desiere to have sex which are totolly frowned apon in alot of cultures think about this what if you had a child who said they were into S n M or was even sexuelly thinking ablout it , alot of parents would say you sick your a freak and we hate you , when infact this is debatable as to weather its a illness the parents just dont want their child thinking about sex of any sort becuase it is their child even though at any age on their own this be viewed as ow well thats just thier chioce it may be frowned apon but its just thought of maostly as diffrent kind of sex , so is this bad
    ? thats debatable right and any girl with a protective dad knows this daddy doesnt want that little girl to grow up does he ? hell chase off any boy that comes her way but if she wants to get a man is that wrong is she not normol ? PERFECTLY SURE . unless thier shooting for a perverted old guy than their is a definiate problem especeilly with law system in most cases . but your see my piont , this is kindve the reason we make laws to so the poeple who want to do all that messed up things can think twice, and to a lesser extent this is what religous and sociol graces are ment for so to put it short . WE HAVE TO WE HAVE NO OTHER CHIOCE . SO DONT COMPLAIN HOW FUCKED UP WE ARE BECUASE WE ALL KNOW THIER IS MESSED UP POEPLE WE JUST DONT HAVE THE LUXURY TO ALWAYS SAY IT WEATHER YOU ARE IN AMERICA, FRANCE , UK , RUSSIA , THIER IS SOME THINGS YOU CANT DO WEATHER IT CULTURAUL , RELIGOUES , OR LAW BOUND GOODDAY .

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    • Iranianlionheart2

      wow.

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  • Yes

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  • NerdyChickFTW

    We may all have those qualities, and some of us prefer to bottle them up, but that doesn't make every single human being a terrible person.

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    • Allistalla

      thankyou for stating that =)

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  • Yeah look at me, i don't pretend to be a saint or even an ethical person at all. Because i'm not.

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    • Justsomejerk

      Not a person? Dude I knew you were a cat!

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  • jermath35

    People are mostly greedy and jealous

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  • Boo!

    I act the same here and any other place. Though I'm less perverted when I'm not here.

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  • Captain_Kegstand

    I try my absolute hardest to be completely real all of the time. Whether or not I succeed I don't know, but at least I make the effort.

    Not everybody is "perverted greedy hedonistic and full of shit" though. Maybe you have just had experiences with bad people. There are good people in the world, maybe even some on this very sight, you just have to find them!

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  • howaminotmyself

    A lot of people who front, don't know they are doing it. And while some people are assholes, don't let it prevent you from seeing the good in people. There are genuinely good people out there, maybe you caught them on a bad day.

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  • You must have been pissed off when you figured that one out. :)

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    • Captain_Kegstand

      HA! This got me laughing good and hard.

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      • Well, everyone figures this out at some point or another in their lives. It's nothing new.

        It amazes me that some people actually think that they are the first, or one of only a few people, who have figured it out as well.

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        • Captain_Kegstand

          What? People are assholes? AH! My life is over!

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  • Shackleford96

    The world isn't perfect. Of course it's normal for people to act that way. Yeah, the majority of it is fake, but I'd much rather it be that way then everybody just being assholes all the time. You sound a little cynical to me.

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  • anti-hero

    I openly admit (often on IIN) that I am a no good asshole all the time. I don't front.

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    • Shackleford96

      It's all good though, because you make me laugh see :)

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      • anti-hero

        I try my best.

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        • Captain_Kegstand

          Also a semi stalker when steak is involved!

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          • anti-hero

            We all love a good steak.

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