Is chivalry dead?

I watch a lot of TMC where most of them movies are from the 30s 40s and 50s. In those movies, the man always opens the door for the woman. If the woman is carrying a package, he carries it for her. Things like that were expected and she wasn't waiting around for him to do those things, he just did them. Not so much today. Men rarely open a car door for a woman. When entering a building, men don't care who's walking behind them. If a woman is having car trouble, men don't just pull over and help her. Is this because women are now considered equal to men? That women are no longer considered to be dainty and helpless? Or is that women have brought this on themselves with women's lib and what not?

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  • IMissMary

    Yeah fuck chivalry bitches these days don't appreciate shit

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    • I am going to have to disagree with you there. That isn't an accurate statement. This shit works both ways. There are plenty of females that appreciate that stuff as I am one of them. I could easily say because of my ex men don't appreciate a woman that cooks, cleans, does their laundry etc. But I don't judge all based off the actions of one.

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      • sandnigga

        Course its not all girls or guys. Someone who thinks that is a redneck lol

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        • Agreed. It shows a severe lack in maturity.

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          • sandnigga

            Not maturity lol. Lack of brain haha

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      • IMissMary

        Yeah am I am sure you cooks, cleans and does their laundry etc.

        Or not...

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        • Because you would know right?

          As a matter of fact I do. That's not the point to be argued though. It's so tiring peoples blanket statements and woe is me bullshit.

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          • IMissMary

            Fact IS I don't need a woman for shyt but sucking my cock or spreading her legs. I only keep her if she is good company too. Cook, clean etc. I can do for myself and in most cases better than any woman. But to step up the game a woman had better do more than please me sexually if she wants to stay. My wife cooks, cleans, washes cloths, works, pays bills and washes my ass [when we shower together]. I get head every time I tell her to suck it and sex every time I pull those panties off. My wife is the bomb and I spoil her with anything she wants because of it...

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          • IMissMary

            Yeah me bullshit too.

            FYI women don't cook, clean and wash cloths so bullshit is right

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  • janicefromaccounting

    Sometimes woman may not want help or doesnt feel comfortable with you helping her with her car at night or whatever. holding the door is fine. but woman can sometimes mistake it for a man flirting or something and feel uncomfortable. Maybe its mens high standards of just because u take her to dinner doesnt mean you have premission to hook up with her. which ik alot of guys who do that and get mad when they dont get what they are looking for. maybe guys just need to learn to expect less. us woman have done it since day 1. you shouldnt do nice things to get things in return you do them because youre a good person. yes a woman should say thank you but men should say thank you for cleaning and cooking that most woman do. however men do those things too dont get me wrong it goes both ways. just learn to take things less offensivly

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  • Id say it's both and that it's a good thing. Chivalry is dead, generally. Some things that are chivalrous still happens but not exclusively towards women, such as holding a door open. People still do that but for men and women. Which is good.

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  • dvnkng

    Early 20's and how I see it, every guy I know who is "chivalrous" gets roughly 0 pussy. So what's the appeal? Dogs get fed

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  • handjobman

    The book of chivalry is mostly jousting, not acting nice. So if I don't hold the door open and a girl tells me "chivalry is dead" I will ask her if she would like to joust promptly at 1300 hours.

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  • raagekai6991

    I wonder how Europe will sustain itself with plummeting birth rates? Feminism and the liberal left has doomed the European man... This is coming from an African.

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  • firewaterburn

    Chivalry exists. Plenty of truly chivalrous men and plenty of women who crave it.

    I was raised to be courteous and helpful towards females. It doesn't matter to me if a woman is unappreciative of my kind acts, because I'm never doing it in an effort to impress/woe/fuck her. Which is why I don't whine about it if I do come across women who are unappreciative of it. Even if I don't get a thank you from a stranger I don't throw a fit or get discouraged. All this is probably why I am still chivalrous after all this time because it's innate.

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    • Lifeistooshorttotakeseriously

      Well said Sir! Ladies and Gentlemen or Men and Women. Only manners maketh so.

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  • CountessDouche

    Not in my personal experience. Literally every single person I've dated has behaved this way, but perhaps that speaks more to the type of people that I've dated...

    I can see how the gesture would go unappreciated by most women, though.

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    • Why would anyone be unappreciative a helping hand?

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      • CountessDouche

        I don't know. You'd have to ask those who don't appreciate it. I'm not one of those people.

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        • Ass_gas

          I appreciate your vision. Tell us more about the future.

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          • sandnigga

            The future isnt set.

            It could go one way or the other.

            With Hillary as President though, we're going to hell lol

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  • Tempest-au

    Chivalry isn't dead, but it is unappreciated to the point that most men go "why bother!"

    Not only is it unappreciated, but I have found that some women are actually offended by it! Only a couple of weeks ago I held open a door for a woman with an armful of shopping, and as she exited she snapped at me "I could have got it myself you know!" I was so stunned I couldn't even come up with a witty comeback, I just stood there staring at her with a "stunned mullet" look.

    That being said, I'll always open the door for a woman, stop to check that the broken down car doesn't need help, etc. I guess it's the way I was raised, you know, being "older" and all.

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  • Ass_gas

    Yes. Chivalry is completely dead. We live in a graceless age. Either you're a good teammate with the opposite gender, or you're locked into a cubicle picking your nose. No mercy. The champions win the spoils.

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    • Are you saying that men are auto dumped into the "friend zone" until it's convenient for a woman to release them?

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      • Ass_gas

        Partly. Men are also extremely apprehensive that women will cry sexual intimidation if they show any sign of personal warmth. Chivalry is dead forever. Women hook up with strange guys at out-of-work locations. Attractive people have friends-with-benefits. Unattractive people jerk-off to porn. Starting a family is not worth the expense.

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        • So what's the future of our society?

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          • Ass_gas

            -Dumb people will fuck without protection.
            -IQ will plummet.
            -Diabetes will shorten life expectancy.
            -Medical care and higher education will become lower in quality.
            -Standard of living will drop.
            -China will buy everyone's assets.
            -Planet Earth will keep getting hotter than hell.
            -The Arctic Ocean will melt completely.
            -Transients will live in containerized lockers.
            -Minimum wage jobs will vanish.
            -The richest 1% will move from a 40% share to a 65% share.
            -Fascist dictators will gain more power.
            -Energy costs will rise.
            -The internet of things will become militarized.
            -The coral reefs will all die.
            -Economic efficiency will change 3rd world lifestyles.
            -Africa will become more diseased with extreme overpopulation.
            -Friendship will be replace by Acquaintanceship.
            -Government corruption will skyrocket.

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  • Lifeistooshorttotakeseriously

    Not entirely extinct but certainly endangered. Women who are self aware and secure enough to revel in their femininity are more likely to witness / provoke a chivalrous response from men confident in demonstrating their masculinity.

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    • Didn't that die out with Gone With the Wind?

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      • Lifeistooshorttotakeseriously

        There are still some adult men (and women) who learn from their life experiences and limit their life baggage to carry on. They forgive easily and live confidently, empowered by a mindset of abundance. Much like optimism good manners cost nothing but reveal so much about a character. Self absorbed, weak minded men are not likely to be chivalrous are they? Avoid them if you want to see chivalry in action today...

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  • riffraffy

    Chivalry, Bushido, honor and loyalty are all romantic ideals. They're really all forms of self-sacrificial love, which is the masculine sort of love.

    Because the new wave of feminism discourages both masculinity and femininity, chivalry is dying. In it's place is some miserable in-between, with high divorce rates and depression of all sorts.

    So when folks say that men used to be more stoic and women more charming, what they really mean is that men were more masculine and women, feminine.

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    • Lifeistooshorttotakeseriously

      Proposing self sacrificial love as a masculine style of love is an interesting concept. Bushido aside. I'm wondering if you would please give me an example for consideration?

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      • riffraffy

        Self sacrificial love doesn't necessarily mean you have to off yourself. It can also mean sacrificing your time, energy and wealth. The point is that you expect nothing in return.

        It can be something as simple as standing up on a crowded subway for a lady to take your seat.

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        • Lifeistooshorttotakeseriously

          Selflessness as in nobility no less. Thankyou for the clarification. Much appreciated.

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      • riffraffy

        Self sacrificial love doesn't necessarily mean you have to kill yourself. It can also mean sacrificing your time, energy and wealth. The point is that you expect nothing in return.

        It can be something as simple as standing up on a crowded subway for a lady to take your seat.

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    • Do you think that's with all women of all cultures or just with American women?

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      • riffraffy

        It's wherever manly men and girly girls are discouraged. That's mostly all of Western civilization right now. Don't fall into the trap of blaming women for being the product of the times. Just embrace your masculinity. By ignoring the BS you'll be more successful than you can imagine.

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  • Freakindemon

    Actually I do that all the time, I don't want to be rude, you are obviously questioning weather there are men who go they extra mile. They answer is yes, city culture has ruined men, and way too much empowerment has ruined women. I can never get my point across with my aunt because she's full of pride.

    There's a reason I was given boney knuckles, thick shoulders, they ability to lift things. There's a reason I'm always full of energy. Men who were built to be manly need to do what they can, I'm actually 22, I don't even want a girlfriend. I'm that bad guy you here about who just likes every girl. I didn't used to be. When I walk down the street at almost 6 ft 3 girls speed up there walk, because I'm a guy.

    When I look at girls sometimes they look they other way, because I'm a guy. With all do respect fuck them, I don't want to sleep with them all, so I stopped being nice, alcohol taught me the skill of honestly. Men don't have to be manly, and women don't have to be womenly, but this shit has gone too far.

    Ps. They original definition of chivalry is good fencing skills. Some comedian made a joke about it, it made me laugh.

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    • Do you think it's pride and vanity that has made women the way they are?

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      • Fatty_McJiggles

        I wouldn't say it's pride, vanity maybe, depends on the individual female. The female brain isn't geared toward toward pride(although there are always exceptions), what it is geared towards is a certain level of insecurity, emotions, empathy (hopefully) and an almost universal herd mentality thinking. Women follow trends, they follow what their friends say or do, they follow what the television tells them to do, etc, etc....

        For trend following example : Yoga pants

        For an emotional example you can look no further than this website. Female users almost universally start posts with "I feel". Immediately resorting to an emotional interpretation of whatever the topic is.

        Now years ago these traits were acknowledged and embraced by both genders. There wasn't even a debate on it. It's just nature and biology. Somewhere along the line acknowledging these differences, which still exist and will always exist, became "sexist" and counter culture movements such as women's liberation gained credibility for some unfathomable reason. Since women themselves are herd followers and this idea was new and edgy, they jumped right on the bandwagon without even a thought as to what they needed to be liberated from.

        Most, if not all, women can't seem to come to the conclusion that men interpret "equality" as equal or not equal. Cut and dry. Women interpret it however they wish to interpret it in any given situation which leads to an almost infinite amount of definitions which is completely irrational.

        So in conclusion, yes "chivalry" is dead. Asking the modern man for "equal treatment", while also expecting preferential treatment (based on gender) will never make sense. Until this is realized, gender relations will remain at the poor level it is today.

        Remember to the male brain interprets "equality" as equal or not. The female brain finds a new definition for "equality" for each day based on a multitude of factors.

        It simply will not work.

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        • Herd mentality. Can't that be applied to both genders? I mean look at the Donald Trump phenom. However in general I get that most men are logical thinkers and want to break everything down into black and white. But there should be a happy balance between chivalry and rudeness.

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          • sandnigga

            Whatch you mean herd mentality? lol

            People arent voting for donald trump because hes trendy lol

            We're voting for him because he makes good points

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        • Ass_gas

          IMHO, your interpretation of female behavior has captured the element of cultural change that women create unconsciously. Your tremendous insightfulness certainly would be befitting for an INTJ Mensan with a PhD in Strategic Intelligence. Please continue to participate at our site. Comments written to this level of scarcity are highly appreciated by all.

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  • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

    i once tried to help this dumb bitch what drove into a snowbank & got stuck

    she wouldnt even git off her phone as i pushed her shitbox out and then drove away without so muchasa thank you

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    • That would jade anyone. I would've been tempted to follow her and drive her into another snow bank.

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      • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

        or how bout the time recently at the grocery store:

        'excuse me'

        'i already have a husband leave me alone'

        'yeah thats nice now can yall please move yalls fat ass so i can git me some asparagus?'

        delusional twat thought i were hittin on her

        for some reason they all does

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        • That's kind of compliment to you because you must be good looking enough to be noticed. Women wouldn't respond to an ugly guy like that.

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  • jethro

    Consider this. If it wasn't for sex, there would be a bounty on women. $75.00 a pelt.

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    • All women? Or just women who have wronged a man? Well I suppose that's all women.

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      • jethro

        Yep all women

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