Intimacy gone with medical profession wife (ma)

When we were first married I didn't want her to see a male ob/gyn. She chose a female Doc but after harsh treatment changed to the male Doc in the same group. I was angry and we had several heated discussions but nothing changed. (Except how I felt about our intimacy)
I wasnt as interested in intimacy with her for quite a while. We have four daughters now and have been married for 20 years. With each new child she reinforced her decision and made it known it wasn't my business. She wanted children and I generally felt emasculated if I wasn't in the "mood" often being bribed to have sex. Its a huge frustration because I feel that part of my life was stolen from me. Our sex life was certainly affected but not completely destroyed (obviously as we have four daughters) Sex was generally monthly give or take. She is very beautiful and likes intimacy.
Fast forward. As our girls matured she wanted to contribute by working. Her choice.... She became a Medical Assistant (MA). I supported her in the beginning and was very proud of how well she was doing (top of her class and very committed). There were some uncomfortable parts of the training but nothing really over the top. That quickly changed when she was getting hours doing the required externship. She was placed in a family practice group with pediatrics and internal medicine on one side and OB/Gyn on the other. She first worked the OB/Gyn side and I really hated it as I don't have a very positive opinion of the male docs (there is also a female Doc in the OB/Gyn group). I was relieved when she started working with the internal medicine, pediatrics and general physicians. That went away quickly as well when she announced how excited she was to assist in a vasectomy that was scheduled the next day. At this point I made it clear I was no longer on board with the situation. She said she didn't have a choice no matter how much a asked her to leave the group. After many situations of assisting with catheterization of men and assisting in hemorrhoid removal where she was asked to hold the mans butt cheeks apart! The final straw came when she allowed one of the male OB/Gyn's to examine her for her annual because it was free and convenient. I was done! It was no longer a request. I felt completely betrayed. She quit working their and went back to school for a about 8 months and then the female OB/Gyn asked if she would come work with her. After a lot of discussion I agreed... That Doc/Medical Assistant relationship ended after about a year and she was asked to work for one of the "new" male OB/gyn's who was supposed to be super nice. I protested but she insisted. NOW she doesn't agree with seeing Male Docs and she doesn't agree with seeing the MD's she works with. So many times she complained about how they discuss women patients. Linger longer on pretty ones and quickly rush through with not so pretty ones. She finally realized they are still MEN. However she loves her job and the nurses and other MA's she works with. Im not OK with this situation and our intimacy is all but over. We started having lots of arguments to the point we couldn't talk about most subjects. When we did have sex things were not the same. She pulled away from me as well. Now she wont discuss much about her work except mundane drivel. She does talk about our relationship at work which causes me more pain. I now have serious trust issues with her and we haven't had sex in almost a year.
It doesnt seem as easy as having her change groups or even jobs. So much damage has been done. I dont want a divorce as I love her very much... I also don't want to live this way anymore.
How do I fix this?

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  • their parts are their work so they don't see them as intimate is my guess, remember she's in the biz too

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    • Heartbrokendave

      I appreciate your comment , however im afraid you being naive about who health care workers are. There is no magic wand... Just because they see intimate parts on a constant basis doesnt make them less intimate or interesting. My wife used to believe that line as well. She no longer does BECAUSE she works in the industry. The comments the MD's make about atractive and unatractive intimate parts is shocking if you believe they have somehow become immune to natural physiological responses. Men who view porn dont like it less when they view more... The opposite happens, they NEED more and more.
      When the new male doctor she works for admitted that he LOVES that part of his job and misses it when he is away, she finally realized that health care workers are not transformed when they put on a white coat. They cant control thoughts and physiological "normal" responses... Only how they act on those thoughts and responses. They "act" proffessional even though they still notice an attractive woman and the same thoughts you get, when younsee an attractive woman, guess what they do too. Duh

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  • Zalenn

    I wish you the best of luck and hope you and the wife work things out.

    As for the unneeded aggression, it's not helping anything guys. Come on.

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    • Heartbrokendave

      Thank you Zalenn, we had a long talk over the weekend (20th anniversary). Things are improving. Still looking for any positive advice.

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  • RoseIsabella

    I honestly don't see what the big deal is. It shouldn't matter if a doctor is male or female. A female nurse showed my dad how to cath himself when he had some urological problems, and it was no big whoop. I've had both male and female gynecologists in the past and it makes no difference to me.

    Three months ago I had an upper and lower (colon) GI scope, the doctor, anesthesiologist and nurse were all male. Oh, and did I mention I got my period the night before the proceedure. I'm not comfortable wearing tampons, so yes, I went in there wearing a pad.

    You need to try to just get over it and stop trying to interfere with your wife's career. Doctors are professionals regardless of gender, and if a doctor is inappropriate with a patient or nurse for that matter I'm sure they can be reported or arrested just like anyone else.

    I dunno where ya'll are from, but here in the U.S. a female nurse is always present when a male doctor performs a gynecological exam.

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    • Heartbrokendave

      What you are talking about is the patients response. It didnt bother you that there were 3 males present during your exam and you were not embarrassed about wearing a pad to the surgery. Also you felt it was no big deal that a female nurse showed your father how to Cath himself. I believe that is a big part of what works well in the health care system. Patients generally feel comfortable with their health care providers because the staff are trained to facilitate a good bed side manner and generally patients are very safe no matter who the health care professional is. Not all health care providers are comfortable in the same situations. I know nurses who hate having to Cath men and chose OB/Gyn as an area to avoid that kind of contact on purpose. Not everyone is the same... People are people no matter the profession.
      FYI I am in the US and you are wrong about female nurses always being present for Gyn exams. It is only a recommendation to have a chaperone for intimate exams. The chaperone is there for the health care providers safety not the patients. Each group has there own rules about this. Most use a chaperone most of the time. There are times when it doesnt happen. The chaperone can also be a male nurse... Not often though. Men almost never get a male chaperone when a female health care provider examines them.
      I really dont think this is a safety issue. Our health care system has made it very safe with minimal cases of actual abuse.
      My situation isnt about the doctor patient relationship. Many people are naive about who their doctor is and what he thinks... thats fine. Its probably easier for people to get health care under that myth.
      My issue is how do I fix the trust and communication in my marriage? How do I get the intimacy back when I feel it is no longer something just between us? How do I forgive the feelings of betrayal?

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  • Heartbrokendave

    I have no interest in allowing another "doctor" into our relationship. Thank you though for the response.

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    • noid

      Totally different kind of doctor and could be very helpful.

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      • Heartbrokendave

        Maybe... however my faith in "doctors" is pretty low. I do think we need help though. I think at this point it is about forgiveness. I believe most of the issues that have been so damaging are in the past. I need to find a way to get communication and trust back in the relationship. Any advice would be appreciated. This thread seems to focus on Doctor Patient relationships... not the relationship between me and my wife. Maybe I need to start a new post. Im sure their are people with better ideas that could be very helpful.
        Thanks noid.

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  • noid

    Go to a marriage counselor. Both go as a couple.

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  • Heartbrokendave

    I am not here to debate the relationship between patients and health care providers... Having seen both sides has given me a solid understanding that People are people no matter what profession. Believing that training somehow transforms people is naive. No one is all good and no one is all bad.
    I am looking for ideas on how to move forward... I obviously have very low faith in Doctors so seeing a marriage counselor isnt something I am interested in. It may in fact come down to that but honestly I am hoping someone has ideas that might help in place of seeing a marriage counselr. How do I overcome the feelings of betrayal? I want the intimacy back but feel it is no longer something special just between us. I realize this will be about forgiveness. where do I start? How do I let her know it hurts me when she talks about intimate parts of our relationship with others? I am pretty sure I can just have sex with her and decide to get emotional fulfillment from others. I think many relationships have that aspect over time. I really want more. I want the exclusivity of intimacy and trust and sharing. I want the bond of being connected more spiritually not just by connvenience.
    I understand there are people that feel I should be fine with having other "professionals" being part of our intimate relationship. I understand that doesnt bother or "hurt" other people in their relationships, however it does hurt me.

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  • Zalenn

    Ultimately, the issue lies within your loathing towards us medical professionals. We do our jobs as a required service - not to see genitalia. While obviously male and females will crack jokes between each other, there is no real disrespect or threat present. This "phenomenon" leading to your distaste is present across professions. I'm sure you can find examples in your own life as well. The key difference - we deal in bodies, others deal in other things.

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    • Heartbrokendave

      ultimately you are making too big of a generalization.
      first - I dont Loath the entire medical profession. I respect many individuals.
      Second - Not everyone in the medical profession is there for the same reason. Some are altruistic as you state (not many) others are there for the money, or the control, or the title etc. some are there to see genitalia. That fact is supported by the several cases each year of Doctors filming or groping their patients. My father witnessed a male nurse opening my wifes gown to view her breasts when he came in to replace her IV bag. The nurse thought he was asleep. In the process he not only exposed her breasts to himself but also her father in law. something neither of them were happy about. Working in the field has opened my wifes eyes to the predatory nature of some "professionals" who have a position of trust and power.
      Yes I agree that people are the same everywhere you go. My mechanic might have perversions but its much less of a problem while he is working on my car. There is the main issue of human physiology where its normal to notice or even be aroused by the opposite sex. I understand its not why most doctors are in the field but its naive to pretend its not part of the situation. I prefer to limit this type of exposure when possible.
      it is a documented fact that attractive female patients receive more and longer intimate exams. Again this is something my wife has witnessed first hand. A certain male doctor will make room in his schedule for certain young and attractive patients and the office staff all laugh about it as if it is harmless.

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