Infertile people trying to get pregnant?

I get kind of pissed off when infertile couples spend thousands of dollars trying to get pregnant.

There are thousands of orphans in the foster care system who need parents as much as you need a child, and instead of pooling all your money into "solutions" that may not work, why not give them a home?

I feel like we should focus on finding homes for children who already exist, rather than making more children.

It's not like we're going extinct- the world is growing more overpopulated by the minute.

It seems like a waste of resources to me. IIN?

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  • NotFloydzie

    Well, most people prefer to have their own seed instead of a stranger's, and if they can't have any children the natural way, they're going to do it any other way possible.

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  • flax

    How does someone getting knocked up and orphaning a child become our problem though? I mean, I understand there will be extenuating circumstances, and I'm not saying for or against, but if people choose to have their own "seeded" children then what is it your business to judge? Same as some people are happy to mature someone else's spawn, some are not.

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    • Lynxikat

      Yeah, but can't you say "It's not our business to judge" for just about anything?

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  • howaminotmyself

    My husband was adopted and has no idea who is birth family is. He would love nothing more than to understand what it means to share blood with someone. I can't unknow this. And while I find it overrated, I can also see why people would seek it out. It isn't for me to decide how important it is for others. We would never do this but I can't tell people how to spend their money.

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    • charli.m

      Nine months on...this makes me smile :)

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      • howaminotmyself

        I don't think I knew I was pregnant at the time I wrote this. And nine months later my husband is as happy as I've ever seen him. And baby has his lips. :)

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        • charli.m

          I thought you probably wouldn't have.

          I'm happy that you're both happy <3

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  • nightmare28

    Whats really the difference between fertile and infertile people in this line of thought? those orphans still need to be adopted, just because you CAN get knocked up, doesn't mean you should, you can always adopt instead. There is no difference between the two, both want a child of their own, the only difference is that the fertile are luckier.

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  • I don't think it's any of your business.

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    • BlueJeansWhiteShirt

      Agreed!

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  • Lynxikat

    ...Honestly, I never really thought about this before. I can see the point of "Well, it's their choice", but personally, after thinking about it, I think I have to agree with OP.

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  • lufa

    Initially I might've argued with the OP but then I remembered through a summer job I had, I got to know a couple of kids-brother and sister around the age of 9 and 10.

    They were wonderful, beautiful and fun kids. I can't understand how their parents could've abandoned them and let them live in a foster home, it was the saddest thing.

    If I was in the right position at the time to adopt them I would've in a heartbeat. They also hinted at the idea.

    While I still would want to have my own biological children in the future maybe-I am open to idea of adoption.

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  • charli.m

    Personally, I would prefer the adoption route for myself. Like Parrish said, it's got its own financial aspect, but I think I'd rather not go through the emotionally drain of IVF etc. But I'm not going to say that anyone who prefers to try that route is stupid/selfish/whatever. It is their choice.

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    • nobleserpent

      ^What this person said. I'm not sure why someone's personal decisions would anger you.

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      • NeuroNeptunian

        This.

        I don't see why anyone would be upset with someone spending their money on something they want. They're not hurting anyone, they want to have a natural kid, then let them try. There are thousands of people, right at the moment, having children that they don't want, and a couple has a child (or tries to have a child) that they DO want and suddenly they're horrible, selfish people?

        A wanted and loved child is a wanted and loved child whether or not they had to be "added" to the over-population. If someone wants to trash talk "breeders", they should trash talk the ones that selfishly have unwanted or un-cared for children because of their own carelessness or reasons beyond simply wanting to love and parent a child (i.e., the parents of MOST of the children in said foster care and adoption agencies).

        Don't confuse "Parents" with "breeders". Parents love and raise their children and work to provide better lives for their children. Breeders just produce. It's the difference between spreading seeds and growing plants.

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        • nobleserpent

          I do not know why that was downvoted but I can't seem to up-vote it :\

          I concur but I don't get these people that say, "Oh no! You can't have a child, it's creating overpopulation!"

          That's like saying-

          "Oh no! You're Littering and destroying the eco system! And by destroying the eco system, you're destroying the planet! And by destroying the planet, you're destroying Humanity!

          And if you're destroying humanity then you're committing genocide! Thus by littering you're committing Attempted Murder and must be jailed!!"

          You know...that's actually a pretty solid point.

          Hmm. I'll have to Brain Storm on that later.

          Anyway, that was a beautiful statement and I totally agree. Being a parent is not a biological after-effect; it's a title earned. People too often mistake the symptoms of it for the cause.

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          • NeuroNeptunian

            Yeah, well be both got down-voted. So it's fine.

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        • charli.m

          This is perfect. Thanks, Neuro.

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  • BlueJeansWhiteShirt

    I don't think you can have a real, heartfelt opinion on this until you are having fertility issues yourself. As a woman who has had two miscarriages so far, I think there's something wrong with my fertility, it hurts a lot to think I may not be able to have my own child or do the most natural thing in the world, reproduce.
    I guess I would grow to love an adopted child but you don't get that instant unconditional love. They still aren't your own child at the end of the day.
    From your question, I am guessing your fertility is perfectly fine and you don't have a clue how hurtful it is to know you can't carry your own child.

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    • nAt2017

      What does that mean, "they still aren't your own child at the end of the day"? I know a woman who has two biological children and an adopted child, and they're all hers no matter what you say. She loves them all as much as a mother can love her children.

      There are lots of different kinds of families out there, and you don't have to be biologically related to be family.

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      • BlueJeansWhiteShirt

        I meant they aren't your own biological child.
        Sorry if I offended you over a mistype...

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        • nAt2017

          You didn't offend me, I just wanted to point it out :)

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    • Allistalla

      Im stating right now I do not want to go through childbirth ever .

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      • BlueJeansWhiteShirt

        Lmao yeeeah childbirth doesn't look great. Don't think I would be able to handle it. Not good with pain.

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  • thinkingaboutit

    So, why don't you take in a foster child? Since waiting for a barren couple to do it is such a waste of time.

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    • I'm not legally in the position of adoption or fostering- I most likely will when I finish school. I don't have any biological children, in case you were wondering. Regardless of whether or not I'm fertile, I just wouldn't feel right doing it.

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    • NeuroNeptunian

      You, sir, deserve a medal.

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      • Except thats what the OP said in the first place....derrrrrrp

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        • NeuroNeptunian

          "I get kind of pissed off when infertile couples spend thousands of dollars trying to get pregnant.

          There are thousands of orphans in the foster care system who need parents as much as you need a child, and instead of pooling all your money into "solutions" that may not work, why not give them a home?

          I feel like we should focus on finding homes for children who already exist, rather than making more children.

          It's not like we're going extinct- the world is growing more overpopulated by the minute.

          It seems like a waste of resources to me. IIN?"

          THAT'S what the OP said in the first place.

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          • "There are thousands of orphans in the foster care system who need parents as much as you need a child"

            Deeerrrrrrrppp

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            • NeuroNeptunian

              I fail to see the similarity between what I or thinkingaboutit said with what the OP said.

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  • jondoerandom

    I agree. I even think it's selfish to get pregnant at all. Adopt a kid, if you want another -well, make your own then, alright.

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  • NocturnePonyFan

    I definitely think people who spend thousands on IVF are the most selfish of the selfish. I personally think anyone who goes out of their way to try to have "their own" child is selfish. I'm an adopted child, myself (as it's well-known on here), and I believe my birth mom AND my adoptive mom were both incredibly selfless. I can attest to the fact that the bond between an adoptive mother and child is JUST as strong as the bond between a birth mom and child...it makes me upset when wannabreeders think it's more important to pay thousands of dollars for IVF treatment that might not even work, than to spend thousands of dollars to adopt a child who DOES exist and who needs a home, simply because those people are so damn selfish that they want their own shitty DNA passed on.
    Before you breeders say anything, I would consider adopting if I wasn't so sure I'd be the world's worst parent. I would consider it in a heartbeat.

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  • cookiesaregreat

    Adopting costs a lot of money and time, too.

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  • loopoo

    Yeah! Selfish our world has far to many people on it, we are ruining our world because of our growing demand, so many kids in care would benefit so well for having someone adopt them and show them love exists and not all humans abandon them, it would do future generations good to because they won't grow up feeling unloved and angry.

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    • Allistalla

      loopoo lol thats a bloody toilet filled with poop XD .

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  • Eves444

    If you're so concerned with orphan children, then go adopt one and stop passing judgment on people who want to have what everyone else biologically is gauranteed!

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    • Gadzvairu

      No one is entitled to a child...

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  • auroracat123

    If you were one of the people who were spending money on trying to have a child, you would understand. Most of the "orphan" children aren't that at all. They're not up for adoption. They are just being held by the state because their parents are drug addicts or abusive assholes. And most people want babies.

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    • Gadzvairu

      No one is owed a child...

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  • Allistalla

    If I had a option to not have a baby shooting outve of me and still be able to riase a child Id take it in a heart beat I wouldnt cry and say oh no I cant have a child what on earth will I do " ? This is the same thing as puppys and I am not saying poeple are dogs but poeple keep making dogs have puppys that are pure bread when thier is so many perfectly good animals at the pound infact most of them with basic training ? We are so over poppulated why are brining in more life that can not be taken care of Why do poeple not try to help the stuff we have already we are way over populated we dont need anyone being selfish .

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    • Allistalla

      poeple keep brining in life that is unsuported but no one cares to pick up the children that are already here .

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  • frankiestrange

    Adoption is a fuck tonne of money too, and takes a ridiculous amount of time.

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  • GoraIntoDesiGals

    Even worse is when very old people insist on having kids. The likelihood of genetic diseases increases exponentially with age.

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  • BurnaBaby27

    People want their own child. A child that they can watch grow and see who's side he or she favors.

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  • Captain_Kegstand

    "I don't want to bring another kid into this world. But how do you argue against loving one that's already here?" -John Cusack in Martian Child

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  • Secretslol

    Some people cant afford to adopt. And others who spend money to get pregnant another way may want a child of their own. I guess it's selfish, but I would want my own baby created from myself and a partner. Maybe idk what I'm saying, I'm only 17.

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    • Lynxikat

      Your comment doesn't really make sense to me. Yeah, some people can't afford to adopt; but those same people also can't afford to to pay for artificial insemination.

      Adopting a kid costs money, yeah, but not NEARLY the amount it takes to pay for artificial insemination.

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  • anti-hero

    I agree with you but adoption is not free or cheap either. This coming from an orphan I should be ashamed of what I just said.

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    • flutterhigh

      How much did you cost?

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      • anti-hero

        I was never adopted. I just had to stay there til I was 18. I never even made it into a foster home.

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        • Lynxikat

          That's... really depressing :(

          Can I ask where you live? I actually don't recall ever seeing an orphanage where I live.

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          • anti-hero

            In the US. They call them "Group homes", most of the time.

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    • Allistalla

      For peat sake why dont they just adopt we honestly dont need more kids , so many countrys are over poppulated and so many orphans without a home to raised by the states .If these poeple have the money to waste on atrificial insimination why cant they go to a orphanage and adopt a child im sure these children will apreciete it .

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      • BurnaBaby27

        I understand where you're coming from, but it's not their fault that those kids are in an orphanage. If they want to try for a child of their own, I don't see what the harm is.
        People who love eachother want to know that they created something wonderful that is half of them and half of the person they love. To be able to say, "you look just like your daddy when you do that" is a really cool feeling.

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        • Allistalla

          Also yes I understand your point but I would not want to go through the pain misery or labor in order to produce such a thing. I do not value a baby in that light. I do love children but to say oh look what came out of me means very little to me.

          Also I understand what it may mean to all of you but the thoughts virtually nothing in my eyes. I guess Im a very odd female but I never cared I do not value marriage as important either I may want to be married but I do not want a boyfriend or a lover I find the thought a burden and annoying and my father is already grandpa and not just because he is old but because my older sibling already had kids so I have no concern of passing on the genes of me family tree.

          Though at this point I value it very little I do not think I valued many things worth wild to begin with. I have little excitement in my life and most things such as a big fancy wedding or husband just seems a burden. Sure they are convenient but I would do it out necessity not any true desire to do so.

          I view children as hard to take care of and would not have one unless financially sound. If I have a husband it will only to have money and a place to eat and sleep. I guess while a lot of time my mind seems frantic and jumpy I am very logical about a lot of things a point some people seem to miss about me.

          Things like that just seem petty and pointless and most of the things like that I do are more out of obligation and appreance and necessity not love. Sometimes even out of Tradition though I do take much pride and joy in traditions that’s one thing I must always follow.

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      • anti-hero

        I agree. I was one of those children in the orphanage. I just never got picked, like a sick puppy in the pound.

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        • Allistalla

          I auctully wasnt a orphan but I would totally adopt that and the fact id hate going through birth it looks pianful .

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          • anti-hero

            Right... I am sorry but you do know I don't know what you are talking about half of the time, right?

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            • Allistalla

              I jsut saying I was born from my parents and that I would not want give birth to a baby becuase that looks painful .

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