Is it normal to think transgender people are super annoying?

I agree that some are just trying to be special snowflakes and make up new genders and acts as if they are the most unique person on the planet.

BUT I have two other transfriends ... one?
Born male, feels like they would never ever try to live as woman because they know it wouldnt work, people would know what gender they were born as. They don´t dare ...

Born female, terrified of being kicked out of his home for being trans ... wants to come up some day, but when he has a place of his own to live.

You cannot say they are all annoying and wants attention. Why is it such an impossible thing to believe? sometimes people are born without arms, without legs.
Some are born gay.
Why can´t some people be born with the wrong body?

Some transgender people are annoying and some are not, just like all human beings.

As some one who was diagnosed with body dysmorphia by a prefessional, I don't agree fully with the trans community.

1. I don't understand why they put us together with sexuality in the LGBT. We contridict them alot since alot of trans people change their sexuality too, like Gigi gorgeous who started out as a gay man and now like girls as a lesbian. But deep down he went from only liking men to only liking girls.

2. Surgery doesn't help, I was made by my parents to go to group therapy. The kindly supported me transitioning but I was scared to, and still haven't. Ever since I one of our members of the group is no longer with us. And they killed them selves a few days after they got gender reassignment surgery. And I've seen a third of our group get better and more comfortable with their gender.

3. I need mental therapy it's all in my head. Let's get real here, as someone with body dysmorphia, I know I can't be the opposite gender if I could I would be much more happy. All I can do is pretend to the opposite gender. Even with surgery I still can't have kids, periods, or even curves unless I get plastic surgery too. It's not worth it, plus most straight people are not gonna be attracted to me anyway, phychologist warned me it's gonna be harder to find a partner as a trans person, from his experience listening to their problems.

4. I have improved alot compared to when I was a tween. I'm just dealing with mostly depression now. So I'm proof that therapy can help some. And should always be an option first.

im wary of anyone whos entire identity revolves round theys genitals

The thing that really baffles me is how they say gender reassignment surgery is okay for trans people who have gender dysmorphia.

But people with body dymorphia like me can't get plastic surgery, my psychologist doesn't recommend it or even doctors, or I won't stop and I'll never be satisfied with the results.

But they're both pretty similar. I hate my body and they hate their physical sex.

Also giving hormones to kids when they're not old enough to make medical desicions on themselves. Also you become infertile with the hormones with an increase of cancer so it's a huge decision.

Another food to thought is to imagine if gender roles were fully abolished. We would just be left with trans people who don't like their genitillia.

Yeah, it's normal but not necessarily right. I'm not annoyed but I admit I don't understand it.

Transgenders have gender dysphoria, and need help from a psychiatrist, not hormone drugs from a doctor. Don't get annoyed at them.

Have pity on them, especially those who have 'support groups' that encourage them to mess themselves up instead of seeking help. The depression and suicide rates are horrific.

"Not our problem." is the point you're trying to make here.

"Not our problem." also shows a lack of empathy for others and is also something a cliche villain would say.

To your first point, yes there are definitions of gender related words, and it is helpful to have some familiarity. At the end of the day though, these words exist so people can express who they are, and people do not fit into such clean cut definitions as the one's given to the words, even the new words. So really there are not "rules" regarding which terms you use, and I let people use any they like to describe themselves because ultimately their benefit is to the person attributing them to themself, not to me.
This is a little different, but for example I have met "gay" people that also have partners of the opposite gender, but still consider themselves gay and not bisexual for various reasons.

The second one kind of hits home as a person who has experimented with gender bending and believed at one point I was full on trans, but found it is maybe just the crossdressing aspect I like. That being said, I truly believe there are others, unlike me who can't just "deal with it". The male/female categories are so rigid in their expectations, that I believe some people really need another word or to transition to feel genuine.

And this piece I can somewhat relate to as someone with a jewish mother, so by jewish law, I am "jewish" even though I at this point have 0 affiliation with the religion, and don't practice, agree with, or believe in it. This is certainly a stretch, but can help illustrate the difficulty of being arbitrarily placed into a group that doesn't reflect your identity.

I understand your concern, the need for gender roles runs deep, and have existed in every society on the face of the earth. I think too often people are quick to ignore the discomfort these changes bring to so many. For me at the end of the day even though I am not trans, I feel more comfortable in gender neutral bathrooms, it still feels liberating. It can sound like these are trans bathrooms, but truly they are for everyone so to me the sentiment is nice but I understand if you feel different.
For locker rooms, growing up seeing so many old man butts and penises, seeing a vagina is the least of my concerns.

I have probably as many issues as you do with how progressives present their cases, in a condescending, dismissive, and often illogical manner, so I don't blame anyone that is turned off. I guess the difference to me, is leaving the presentation and flawed reasoning out of it, their proposals to me are not that crazy, and are things I can live with.

And truthfully in my experience the people who really gain some peace of mind, the transgender people, are regular ass people, and not like the annoying kids on youtube. The people you notice are always going to be the loud and obnoxious ones you know.
So yeah, to me its like whatever.

Does cwanky bubby need its nap? D'aww.

There there.

You posted this and therefore hoped to glean comment so beware, here is my singular imput, because you asked for it. How bloody shallow minded you are. You seem to have need to voice your opinion on yet another minority and without any understanding of such. We, well most of us, living in a free world and a Democracy and that entials first and foremost, being what ever we wish to be, so long as it does not harm another. So perhaps you, yourself have been harmed by a Transgender person and therefore you classify all Trasgenders, into the same mold. So frigging sad a life you must leave because you give absolutely no voice to yourself or what you want for yourself or think as an individual. Transgenders do and so they should because the are also individuals and I am think that they give more back to society, that you ever will.
Grow up!

I am not aware of what ever frigging group you belong to and so long as you remain Anonymous and hide behind your veil, I could not give a single rat's arse what you are affiliated with. Stay hidden, put on your mask, disguise yourself and cast all the aspersions you so with to. They mean nothing and will forever remain shallow, until you really show yourself. You are the sort of person that takes to the streets and protests about all sorts of things, without actually doing anything about anything, for yourself or others. Just like the protesters shouting hate against the Donald. They themselves wear a face of hatred and I wonder, really wonder, how many of them took the time to actually vote. If one does not vote, then they have absolutely no right to protest about any outcome of any election. Just like here.

I am not annoyed by them. I don't fully understand them. But I respect them and I have compassion towards them completely. You on the other hand completely lack any empathy. I don't know what any transgender person did to you. But it is completely unfair to generalize the transgender community like you did.

Lol, you do know that the reason transgender people want their own bathroom is because of both the physical and verbal assault they get from some cis people? If there were no transphobia there would be no need for them to get their own bathroom where they can safely piss without a cis asking them to pull their fucking pants down to see if they have a dick or cunt.

Maybe work for a change and support transgender people instead of sitting on your ass and doing nothing?

Uh, what? They just want to be themselves...and you're trying to force them to be something they're not...and you think they're trying to force something on everybody else?

That's the stupidest, most ass backwards argument I've ever heard in my life. Denying you in your attempts to force your views on them is not them forcing you to do something. Imagine if you were trying to get your hair cut a certain way, and somebody was telling you that you couldn't, and then when you did it anyway, they cried about you pushing your haircut on them. Idiotic beyond words, right? Well, that's the same argument you're trying to make here. It makes no sense whatsoever.

I'm only annoyed with transgendered who can't make up their minds. Once they can, I try to treat them like the gender they want, but until then it's hard for me to take them. However, I do support their different rights.

I have a by all purpose a woman very pretty nice boobs lovely figure long legs very feminine but has a penis I say female