Is it normal to prefer solo sex?

It's not because I'm single (by choice) right now, but the other day I had the thought that I've never had a partner who could please me NEARLY as much as I can myself. I don't want to start a gender war, but every guy I've ever been with is done so fast I can't ever BEGIN to get excited. I mean it's like in-and-done in one breath. Or their idea of a super hot time is throwing you around in 50 different positions. Grand ideas and no execution.

And I do try really hard to give pleasure. From what I'm told, I'm a generous lover, and I treat the guy I'm with really, really well. But I can take care of myself 1000 times better than anyone else I've yet met. Do any other girls feel similarly?

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  • KingTermite

    You haven't met the right guy. Some of us have studied diligently at how to give a woman pleasure and are rather good at it.

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    • AB1234

      I love it when guys say to me I haven't met the right guy yet. Then I date them, and.... ;) I'm grateful I enjoy my own company so much... But kudos to you and the lucky women you're with, King!

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      • KingTermite

        Well whatever works for you, love, it's no skin off my sack either way. I was simply explaining that some men don't care about anyone's pleasure except their own and there are those of us that should probably be giving classes on how to do it right. You can take it for what it's worth to you. However, if you choose to believe that there is no one that can do what I'm saying I think you'll find it a self-fulfilling prophesy.

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        • AB1234

          I hope I didn't offend you. A problem with electronic communication is it's so easy to screw ... up (couldn't resist) emotional subtext. I was trying to be upbeat...

          But I do wanna address self-fulfilling prophesies, generally. Not to be argumentative, really. But I find them largely to be a logical fallacy. If they were true, people set on landing the best jobs or making into the most selective universities (via interviews, networking)--just as a tiny set of examples--would be statistically significantly more successful by dint of their beliefs. But in these and similar social competitive circumstances there are usually better/stronger explanations for success/failure.

          I don't believe that it is sufficient to believe something will happen, even when this is linked to behavior that reflects conscious or subconscious intent, to have the event come true. And there are too many competing causal associations and effect modifications to substantiate SFPs. There are even evolutionary arguments for why many believe in SFPs, especially in regards to negative life events.

          Again, no argument meant. SFPs are just a very interesting human rationalization to me. Have a good one, Kingie.

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          • KingTermite

            I'm pretty much unoffendable I suppose I'm blessed that way.

            I think your set of examples is flawed. SFP's are typically of the doom and gloom variety not the upbeat, happy ending variety. Like the guy that is depressed because he can't get a girlfriend and says to himself, "I'll never get a girlfriend," he is setting himself up to fail because of his attitude toward his situation. I do think a positive attitude will help but it isn't nearly as easy to MAKE what you want happen as it is to LET the things you don't want to happen anyway.

            So your 'I've been let down so many times... well it's a good thing I enjoy my own company so much,' thing is potentially setting you up to never find a person that can and will do what you want and/or need.

            This whole thing brings a phrase to mind:
            Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right.

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            • AB1234

              Glad to hear you can't be offended. I respectfully disagree with your assessment of SFPs, and there are some brilliant philosophical fallacy arguments to that effect. First, humans are evolutionarily positive animals, even when objectively facts do not support a positive perspective. That we tend to believe certain things says nothing about the empirical mechanics impacting the manifestation of those things.

              I also believe the reason pop psychology references SFPs where "doom and gloom" is concerned is because it's easy to assume that a negative social interaction results from an individual's supposed negative mindset, even when that supposition cannot be rigorously verified. But if SFPs were valid, positive outcomes from positive thinking should also be ascribable to SFPs. I don't see any empirical reason thinking you can't should be any more effective than thinking you can, other than humans' penchant for speculation, especially as it regards the desirable element of control.

              I see far more guys who believe they're in control of their game who either don't ever get girls (that any of us ever see) despite their effusive self confidence, or who eventually settle for girls they're not interested in (disastrously for them and the girl). And among the guys who don't get girls, contrary to the fluff about attitude and effort, there are other objective reasons they happen, statistically, to remain single. We're not supposed to discuss these in our culture, but that doesn't make them any less potent.

              We can agree to disagree about SFPs. There is very little empirical evidence substantiating them, and what social psychology has to teach about the effects (or even roots) of positive (or negative) thinking on outcomes, on further inspection, reveals behavioral traits linked to neurological development that has its roots in prenatal and early childhood development, yet which very strongly affects affect throughout life. For many, affect tweeks just don't work.

              Apparent SFPs are also far too easily confounded by other social and psychological variables so that what appears to be the reason for many negative social outcomes isn't, as often confirmed by further research.

              A good quantitative assessment of the fallacy of SFPs rests in the aphorism you've offered: "Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right." Obviously, that's not true. There are countless circumstance in a competitive environment in which individuals are confident they can do something yet fail. And there are many, many situations in which someone doesn't believe she has a chance but wins due to significant objective superiority. Not only do we see sociologically that there are important hidden variables that impact success/failure odds, but as an endeavor becomes increasingly competitive, it's obvious that confidence isn't going to be among the chief determinants of success. Otherwise being very confident would significantly improve the chances of winning a coveted internship or job via interview.

              SFPs appear to be one way to rationalize outcomes we don't really understand rigorously. Too often, when tested in medicine and quantitative psychosocial experiments, the SFP argument is debunked.

              Lastly, I didn't say "I've been let down ..." I said that I am glad I enjoy my own company and have taken care of myself better than others can take care of me. There's no setting myself up for something negative in that. If anything, I'm setting myself up for joy because I am not dependent on a partner for sexual satisfaction.

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  • lovetolickass

    i am a guy sometimes i would rather jerk off then be with wife never had a problem that way

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    • AB1234

      You mean 'cause it's less work taking care of yourself?

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  • atebefore7

    Do you like cocks in your ass and do you suck the cock and nuts when it comes out of your shit pipe ?

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    • AB1234

      Come on, Ate. That's meant to be bait...

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      • deepdankstickygoo

        What?!

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        • AB1234

          I JUST NOW got your "what?!" :)

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  • thegypsysailor

    Sounds like your problem is the kind of guys you sleep with, not guys in general. Of course, if all you want a guy for is to get your rocks off anyway, then of course you'd do that better alone.

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    • AB1234

      Thanks, at least, for the "if." No, sex isn't even among the top five relationship criteria I have, but it's an important way to build intimacy. And humans have needs. I don't know what "kind" of guys I've been with in the past other than that they're guys I've met in classes, gotten to know and dated.

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      • BlackyHancock

        The trouble with so many young guys these days is they get their idea of what sex is all about from all the extreme hardcore porn they watch online.

        They play this out in the bedroom (or wherever) with an ignorance of foreplay and wanting to try 50 different positions and generally displaying a complete lack of any idea of what having mutually satisfying great sex is about.

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        • AB1234

          If I could send you a solid gold star, I would. Yeah, come to think of it, I think that's it. Every boyfriend I ever had was open about his online porn hubs (I'm very open-minded...). But, you're right, it rarely ever works out in real life like in online vid clips.

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          • BlackyHancock

            Thanks. I'm not against porn per se, but I think it's become so ubiquitous and has become normalized in culture.

            Human male brains have never before in the history of the world been so saturated with pornographic images.

            Most porn scenes (especially these days where they tend to be so extreme) are not how real life is or should be.

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      • mysistersshadow

        There are a tiny fraction of guys that know what there doing but there are only a few. Thats yet another reason I like guys around 10 years older than me there more experienced. And I completely agree that sex isn't my highest priority but if I'm going to have sex I prefer it to be mutually pleasurable.

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        • AB1234

          "sex isn't my highest priority but if I'm going to have sex I prefer it to be mutually pleasurable." AMEN!

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        • atebefore7

          Its the female's responsibility to manipulate the cock and nut sack.

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          • AB1234

            I get what you're saying, but does the guy have any responsibility towards the girl?

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            • mysistersshadow

              If you believe what you read around here... no.

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