Is it normal to force pregnancy on a girl and is it illegal

So, I met this dude off tinder. We planned on being FwB. Though during sex they slipped off the condom and said they were trying get me pregnant so I couldn't leave. The needing a condom was explained before hand due to not being on birth control. Than had to escape the room and walk back home in dark since they said I wasnt allowed to leave and they were going have sex until I was pregnant until I wanted to or not. Not pregnant though, took a pregnancy test. I kind of don't want to date anymore.

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  • radar

    He was threatening rape. Not normal or okay. Unfortunately I doubt you'd have an easy time trying to get the authorities to do anything about it.

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    • RoseIsabella

      I would consider that guy to be a rapist as her consent was conditional, and dependent upon whether, or not protection was used.

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      • radar

        You're right.. I didn't catch the part where they actually had unprotected sex already :/

        I'm sorry OP, this is a really scary thing to have happen to you.

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        • RoseIsabella

          I hope OP is okay!

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  • 1WeirdGuy

    You should call the police. They need to get that guy off the streets before he kills or rapes some girl.

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  • Grunewald

    That is horrible. At the very least he could get done for sexual harassment. That was an intent to rape.

    Also, I too am curious about why you use 'they'...

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    • BleedingPain

      I know that personally when I speak about people, I sometimes switch up the pronouns inadvertently. Ie: if I am talking about a dude to someone, I will use he... but later on in the convo I might use they. Not really sure why my brain does that, but maybe this person does it too 🤷‍♀️

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  • BleedingPain

    My god some people feel so entitled. Its scary.

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  • What a creep!

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  • RoseIsabella

    That guy is a rapist!

    Is there a way you can inform the powers that be at Tinder of this guy? I don't know what all they would do, and it's very possible they wouldn't do anything.

    Tinder is known as more of a booty call sort of website, and there are a lot of unsavory characters on that website, and online in general. I think you ought to read a book called The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker! It's very normal for you to feel now that you don't want to date anymore. It sounds to me like you used to think internet dating just for hook-ups was a safe activity, and now you see that is not entirely so. You're probably dealing with some cognitive dissonance, and I think what you are experiencing is normal despite how truly awful it was.

    It certainly wouldn't hurt for you to take a break from sex, and dating entirely in order to reevaluate things.

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  • a-curious-bunny

    No but a female can force it on a male. Welcome to the legal system in America at least

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    • RoseIsabella

      What do you mean no? It's very possible for consent to be conditional.

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      • a-curious-bunny

        IIN to force pregnancy on a girl and is it illegal

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        • RoseIsabella

          ... or the guy can choose to wear a condom.

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          • a-curious-bunny

            Think about it for a moment.

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            • RoseIsabella

              Yeah, I have heard of women lying about being on the pill. If I were a young dude I would always use rubbers.

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  • JudgeOfNormality

    I'm sorry? "Force pregnancy" sounds like rape. Please talk with your partner about this, as she technically has the power of abortion and adoption anyway. Forced pregnancy is disgusting anyway, please do not ever do this or try this.

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  • trekngailis

    Depends on country if it is a rape or other felony. In my coubtry guys do this all the time (damage condom secretly or swap birth control pills with blank ones) because it is hard to find girlfriend. And if you havr one, you will do anything to keep her.

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    • I mean but literally keeping them hostage.

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  • jethro

    That wasn't dating. Besides, what did you expect to get by hooking up with strange men(plural)from Tinder, Prince Charming? You're lucky you got out of there alive let alone not pregnant. Such a maroon.

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  • bbrown95

    Absolutely creepy and disgusting. I'd report him.

    No, it's not normal for someone to do anything like that. It's a form of rape, and the guy sounds extremely mentally unhinged.

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  • Somenormie

    Gotta admit that guy knew he'd try and force you he is a true scumbag, none of what you're describing is normal, people like that scumbags, you should also learn that he isn't a real boyfriend in any sense. People like that are more likely to probably avoid the subject even if you do try to confront them, most rapists would try to use some sort of excuse ( which by the way is what most of them do. ), I know that dude might do that. Your only option is to delete contacts of him, delete them for your own good. Like what both Boojum and RoseIsabella has mentioned this is also normal however to not feel like dating anymore which is also understandable.

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  • Boojum

    There's nothing at all normal about that guy and what he said and did.

    In the UK, the law recognises the concept of "conditional consent", and it's against the law for a guy here to stealthily remove his condom when the other person agreed to have sex only with a condom. Of course, proving what happened in a court is difficult without hard evidence, which means the police might see no point in charging the guy, and prosecutors might decide there's no chance a jury will accept what the woman says.

    My understanding is that it's even less likely that police and prosecutors in the USA will decide to proceed in such cases.

    What mystifies me is why you apparently believe it's reasonable for you to have sex without birth control. In an ideal world, all men would respect the wishes of women and never do anything that might result in a woman getting pregnant if she doesn't want that. But we don't live in that perfect world. There's no shortage of asshole, misogynistic men who get off on the idea of inflicting an unwanted pregnancy on a woman because that gives them a sense of power or because of even more twisted shit going on in their heads.

    Putting all the responsibility for you not getting pregnant on the guys you have sex with and relying entirely on condoms is pretty damn stupid. Condoms sometimes break. Condoms can slip off. Using the wrong sort of lubricant can cause condoms to literally turn to shreds. If you have multiple sessions of PIV, it's possible for the exterior of a new condom to pick up semen when the guy puts it on. Some guys are stupid enough to try to reuse condoms, and that makes it very likely viable sperm could be on the outside.

    And it's not all that unusual for a woman who happens to be in the broody phase of her monthly cycle when she happens to be having sex with a guy who pushes all of her happy buttons to suddenly find all sorts of irrational, completely unexpected stuff about babies buzzing around in her head. In that moment, she might feel that she really wants to have unprotected sex, only to realise that was a really, really stupid thing once she comes down from her high.

    The guy was a fucked up asshole. It's awful that you experienced what you did with him, and your reluctance to jump back in the cesspit of Tinder is completely understandable. But if you eventually decide to do that, long before you pick up your phone and start swiping, you need to accept that you're the person who's primarily responsible for ensuring that you don't get pregnant and you should make sure you have some sort of effective birth control in place before you have penetrative sex.

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    • RoseIsabella

      We should have a conditional consent law her in the United States!

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    • Well, he was insistent on having it. I was upfront that I not on birth control so if he don't wear one or I very likely to get pregnant. He claimed he usually pulls out but put one on. Than he slipped it off during and than came inside and said he wanted me pregnant and basically I was than his hostage. Like some protection is better than 0 and well after 5 times I had it I stayed NOT PREGNANT. No, I am not responsible for him disrespecting my wishes when I was upfront about my terms. I straight up explained this. Also I didn't say I wanted kids, he did.

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      • Boojum

        "No, I am not responsible for him disrespecting my wishes when I was upfront about my terms."

        As I said in my previous, I think that what he did was completely wrong.

        But the way you phrase that statement sounds like you might believe it's reasonable for you to expect everyone in the world to always respect your wishes. That would be silly to the point of delusional.

        He is responsible for his actions; you are responsible for your actions. If your actions include refusing to take reasonable precautions to ensure that you won't get pregnant and having sex with guys you don't know well, then you will partly own the consequences of that. You'll definitely be the person who has to decide what to do about any pregnancy. If you decided to have the kid, you'd be the primary person who has to deal with her life being completely turned upside down, and you'd be the one who has to deal with her life revolving around the kid for at least the next eighteen years.

        You appear to have lucked out this time - although you need to be aware that the results of pregnancy tests can't be relied on if taken before a few weeks have passed since the sex. From the way you worded your OP, it sounds like you took the test much more quickly than that after the unpleasant evening. If that's correct, then you'd be wise to test again after the date when your next period is due.

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        • I took reasonable precautions. He was the one who decided to not use any protection what so ever against my wishes. If the condom broke or something well that happened. I would proceed from that point. However, purposely coming in a person and saying they are your hostage until they become inpragnated is not MY FUALT. That is him being a dipshit. Also there is no reason to WAIT to take a pregnancy test. Since at that point its already too late and you would have to proceed with having the baby. Also morning after pill is to be taken 1-2 days after. NOT A MONTH LATER YOU IDIOT. So saying wait 3 weeks is too late. Which is said on the medical website I looked up as well. WAITING for these type of things is not intelligent at all.

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          • Boojum

            Where did I say anything about the morning-after pill?

            If you can get access to that where you live and using of it isn't in conflict with your ethical beliefs, you obviously should have taken it as soon as you could.

            As far as pregnancy testers are concerned, they aren't so sensitive that they can detect the hormone they rely on to indicate pregnancy within a couple of days of conception. Also, sperm can remain viable in the uterus for up to five days after ejaculation, so it's possible for conception to be delayed.

            Your definition of "reasonable precautions" clearly isn't the same as mine. It seems to me your attitude is similar to that of someone who decides to walk through the roughest part of town on their own late at night because they believe nobody has the right to assault and rob them, and thinks that the only "reasonable precaution" they need to take is keeping their phone and money out of sight in their pocket. When someone stabs and robs them even though they tell the dipshit they have no right to do that, they're outraged, and believe they bear no responsibility for what happened, even though they deliberately put themselves in a risky situation.

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            • So you are saying that people should be robbed? That is a very predatory mindset. Especially considering some are actually very poor and are often forced into these type of situations or enviorments. So you are basically saying fuck all poor people and familys for not making enough to live in a rich city. Like your privileged ass right?

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      • YE

        You need serious help.

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        • From the police?

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  • newnormal

    What do you mean by they? Is it a he or they???? Besides you are dumb. Just leave and take a morning after pill.

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