Is it normal to be unsure whether hillary clinton would be a good president

So, Hillary Clinton has thrown her hat in the ring. I'm a bit torn as an Independent. She leans more conservative than a lot of Republicans when it comes to business and banking. But she leans middle to liberal on social issues. Those things I like. Almost like a moderate Republican in Democrat clothes. Some of the "scandals" starting with Whitewater that Bill had to distance her from himself when he was running for President, and the more recent stuff make me wonder if she's just another dishonest politician. She didn't seem to be a great Secretary of State and her stepping down from that post seemed awkward. IDK, one part seems good the other not so good.

What do you think? Yes, for Hillary or not.

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  • gummy_jr

    Honestly a box of Captain Crunch would make a better president than the candidates we have running right now.

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    • theseeker

      Last time I checked she couldn't even handle the presidential penis correctly. I don't know how she would handle running a country.

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    • Cuntsiclestick

      Crunchatize me, Cap'n!

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      • gummy_jr

        *loud crunch*

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  • She'll win. People are voting on here simply for being a woman, as some videos have shown. I'm not saying there won't be people that vote for her due to thinking she'd be good for reasons other than "vagina" but I feel like there will be enough voting on her simply for being a woman to win just like enough voted for Obama just for being black.

    She'll win. I'm putting that down here right now so that you can all come back to this post once she's elected and say "Damn, so it's true. ItDuz does have future telling abilities." 'Cus I do. Fuck you, I do. ^_^

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    • sillygirl77

      She didn't win last time.

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      • Don't you DARE imply my future seeing powers aren't accurate here! This fantasy is all I have left! :'(

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        • Mytwin295

          If she doesn't win, i'm moving to duztopia where she will be president in spirit.

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    • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

      dont believe the hype

      its very early on in the process and hillarys been manufacturin publicity like crazy to the point where peoples sees through that shit despite the media fallin allover theyselves to kiss her corpulent ass

      she wentn said 'its time america had a womens president'

      i yelled back at the screen 'its time america had a competent president you flippin murderin lyin duplicitous disgustin evil twat'

      its always somethin with them fuckin clintons some kinda fuckin legal ethical bullshit drama where theys skating in under the letter of the law and call in it okay for them but not for anyone else

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    • mrcwren

      Tell you what, I sure am glad that will be living in another country, that denounces the American political process.

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  • LizardSkin

    You're stupid if you think she would be a good president. Her and Obama are butt buddies. She's equally as culpable for Americans being killed in Benghazi too.

    If you watch Hitlery speak and you don't realize she's an evil person you're brain dead.

    She would be as bad as Obama and George Bush.

    She's just another cronie for the Banksters.

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    • Brownblowout

      we need more handouts....food stamps
      Help us government

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  • thegypsysailor

    One thing I am absolutely sure of is that the same small minded people who hate Obama solely because he is black are the same ones who will hate Clinton solely because she is a woman.
    Obama inherited a totally fucked up mess and in the long run hasn't done all that bad trying to repair some of the damage Dubya and his cronies did. I don't know many that are worse off right now than they were when Dubya left office. He certainly hasn't done nearly as well as he could have, but we are, as a nation, better off than during Dubya's reign.
    Hell, most of our young men are home; that's a big something.

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    • seekelp

      "we are, as a nation, better off than during Dubya's reign."

      HA!

      I'd agree that Obama's been marginally better than Bush, but things were definitely going better for the average American in 2006. Obama's dragged the US into a number of conflicts (or at least failed to keep us out of them), failed to reform the banking system in any real way, nationalized heath care with NO public option, and Guantanamo Bay's still open.

      While the housing crash was not caused by Obama, his lackadaisical attempts at recovery have all been garbage. Jobs continue to be shipped overseas, and the only new ones opening up mostly minimum wage. ISIS's genesis can be traced back to the "Freedom Fighters" we gave weapons, training and money to in Lybia to help unseat Gaddafi (a scheme masterminded by the Hildog herself).

      No matter who's in the White house, it's neocon policies as far as the eye can see.

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      • VirgilManly

        I always liked this letter and just how true it is.

        http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/11/11/1343931/-Another-Open-Letter-To-Americans-About-Midterms-This-Time-From-Canada-This-One-Hurts#

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        • seekelp

          "Many of us Canadians are confused by the U.S. midterm elections. Consider, right now in America, corporate profits are at record highs, the country's adding 200,000 jobs per month, unemployment is below 6%, U.S. gross national product growth is the best of the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) countries. The dollar is at its strongest levels in years, the stock market is near record highs, gasoline prices are falling, there's no inflation, interest rates are the lowest in 30 years, U.S. oil imports are declining, U.S. oil production is rapidly increasing, the deficit is rapidly declining, and the wealthy are still making astonishing amounts of money."

          Corporate profits may be high, but the average citizen isn't seeing any of that. The majority of jobs added are low-wage, and the 200,00 figure is a complete exaggeration. Here (http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf) the figure is 33,000 per month. The dollar was actually stronger during some of the Bush years. Gas prices are falling, but at the expense of the fracking industry in the middle of the country providing high-wage jobs to lower-skilled Americans, and as a result, domestic oil production is actually decreasing. Regardless of how much the deficit grows or shrinks in the short term, the more real problem is debt.

          "America is leading the world once again and respected internationally — in sharp contrast to the Bush years. Obama brought soldiers home from Iraq and killed Osama bin Laden."

          Obama left Iraq to ISIS and is leaving Afghanistan to regional warlords.

          He usurped one stabilizing force in the Muslim world (Gaddafi) and tried to usurp another (Assad) using softer diplomacy.

          Also, Obama did not personally "kill" bin Laden. Some marines did, and would have regardless of who was president at the time.

          This Canadian wrote this before Nov of last year, so his perspective may have been somewhat limited, but is nonetheless wrong.

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          • VirgilManly

            The fact that corporate profits and the stock market are at an all time high and the average citizen isn't seeing any of it is proof that the right wing theory of "Trickle-down Economics" is a fallacy. The rich in this country are getting greedier and are putting their money offshore. You can't blame Obama for that.

            Your whole rationale for falling gas prices causing the loss of jobs is ridiculous. It's like saying oil spills are good because they create jobs because someone has to be hired to clean them up. If gas goes up to $10 a gallon Obama will be blamed but if it goes down he's accused of loosing jobs... No, production is not decreasing it's increasing. Look it up.

            Obama left Iraq to Iraqi's. They wanted us out of THEIR country. They left it to ISIS. We left Afghanistan because our reason to be there was to find Bin Laden. (Who was actually hiding in Pakistan).

            The elimination of Sadam is what destabilized the Muslim world. He was a thorn in the side of many in the region and held them at bay...including Iran who is the only actual winner of our invasion of Iraq.

            Obama made the decision and gave the order for Seal Team 6 to go in and eliminate Bin Laden. Bush on the other hand repeatedly said he wasn't at all interested in finding Bin Laden and that he was not a priority. "I don't know where he is. I really just don't spend that much time on him, to be honest with you."

            Don't know where you get your info from but you are passionate about your view but are misinformed.

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            • seekelp

              "You can't blame Obama for that."

              You're missing the point. I'm saying that the part in the letter where the Canadian praises Obama for soaring corporate profits is absurd because it doesn't help the majority of Americans.

              "Look it up."

              I did look it up and have a source: (http://www.oil-price.net/en/articles/falling-oil-price-slows-us-fracking.php). It's basic economics: Fracking to get oil is one of the most expensive methods of extracting it. If oil becomes too cheap, it's no longer economically viable for any given company to perform the extraction.

              "Obama left Iraq to Iraqi's. They wanted us out of THEIR country. They left it to ISIS. We left Afghanistan because our reason to be there was to find Bin Laden. (Who was actually hiding in Pakistan)."

              Both Obama and Bush used the phrase "Nation-Building" in regards to Afghanistan. I realize that Obama didn't get us in either there or Iraq, but his pullout from both places simply introduces anarchy. Also, his administration certainly gave weapons, training and money to the ISIS members who are currently occupying Iraq and Syria.

              "The elimination of Sadam is what destabilized the Muslim world. He was a thorn in the side of many in the region and held them at bay...including Iran who is the only actual winner of our invasion of Iraq."

              Among very many other things, yes. The Arab Spring was an enormous part of it as well. Critically, though, I'm saying that Obama's handling of many foreign policy matters in that area has been quite lackluster.

              "Obama made the decision and gave the order for Seal Team 6 to go in and eliminate Bin Laden. Bush on the other hand repeatedly said he wasn't at all interested in finding Bin Laden and that he was not a priority."

              Who's to say McCain wouldn't have gone more after bin Laden?

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  • JD777

    I can't get excited about any of the candidates, so far.

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  • didact

    Whoever wins will still have to do what they're donors require.

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  • NeofelisNebulosa

    Right now it looks like many of our options consist of deciding between an idiot and another idiot. I never know who the hell to vote for because it's like picking between two diseases; either one is going to suck.

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  • Arm0se

    Meh. Who cares. As long as I've been alive I haven't seen any major changes no matter who's been in charge. My life as a whole has been more or less the same all around.

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