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Is it normal to be a Trump supporter and love and support all races? Any time I see a MAGA hate, instantly think racist. Some times, the wearer of the hat can be very polite and cordial. Most of the time, they look like they're ready for a fight.
Are Trump supporters capable of standing up for minority rights and supporting the ideals of MAGA?
This label game (racist, homophobe, islamaphobe, white nationalist, transphone etc) can get kind of confusing. So here is what my father taught me: if someone is nice to you. You be nice to them.
BOOM!!! Crazy how simple that is.
When it comes down to it, humans are tribal animals.
The Republican tribe is "American". Anyone can join it (so long as they go through the legal process) and it's not restricted by race, gender, or sexuality. The bond they share is patriotism for their country, military, football and so on.
The Democrats are a collection of tribes: LGBT, Black, Women and Illegal Immigrants to name a few. Each of these are exclusive, and have nothing in common aside from "being a minority", "feeling like a victim", and hating Trump. It's not a strong foundation for a winning coalition.
Any correlation between "Trump supporters = racists" you have has been placed into your mind by the media. You've been persuaded to think that way.
So democrats are Groups of minorities who view themselves as victims?
I see these groups as individuals looking to challenge the gov't on areas of the constitution that are written to support them as americans but, the processes/laws do not support articles written.
If we're all created equal...?
As americans, why do democrats and republicans see each other as the enemy? We should all be working towards one goal.
Man, when will the aliens invade so we can all be on the same page?
The tribes loosely united under the "Democrat" label see themselves more or less as "freedom fighters" where the powers that be (Trump, the police) are evil and bad, and are the source of their oppression/perceived troubles.
By putting themselves in this position and shifting the blame of the problems facing them and their communities (whether it's black, LGBT or so on) upwards, they place themselves in the role of a victim--whether they realize it or not. It's the most dis-empowering thing you could do: it robs you of your personal freedom, responsibility and accountability.
It's not very American, either.
Last I checked, fighting for freedom and equality is the most patriotic, American thing one can do. It’s the very foundation of the country.
It’s amazing how quickly republicans become victims of the big bad “powers that be” when they’re asked to wear a mask or socially distance themselves. Republicans are as “American” as the Nazis were socialists or North Korea is a democracy - in name only, and in fact the antithesis in practice.
Fighting for freedom and equality is very patriotic and very American. I'm sure many on the Left including yourself believe you are rallying and rioting for a righteous cause, for this freedom that has so ruthlessly been denied you.
Congratulations: you're a glorified victim. You either don't see or don't realize that you are putting the government, the police, the whatever "powers that be" on a pedestal that you kneel before daily. Mentally, you're submitting to them every day you blame any problem of yours onto them.
Each day you don't take responsibility for your circumstances is another day you don't try to improve them. The black community, for example, is in shambles from black-on-black violence, single-mother households, and rampant drug and alcohol abuse. It will remain in shambles so long as they point their finger and blame towards some other entity outside themselves.
You just called George Washington a victim. Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton...all victims, according to you. Yet another example of how un-American far right wingers such as yourself are.
And aside from the fact that black-on-black crime is not a thing that exists, and even if it were it’s completely irrelevant to the discussion of systemic racism and police brutality, you really should start educating yourself on what “the left” is holding the government accountable for and what they aren’t. Spoiler alert: it’s more than single mother households or drug and alcohol abuse, which are just as big a problem in rural white communities as anywhere else.
That does raise a good point that, that democrats do far more for lower and middle class white people than republicans will ever do, it’s just a shame that lower and middle class white people care more about blaming minorities for their problems(this is what actual “playing the victim” looks like) so they vote for the party that’s exclusively for straight white rich Christian men, because they’ll harm minorities and that makes them feel better about themselves, despite the fact that they’re getting harmed in the process.
The Nazis were socialist, though. They were fascists and fascism is a form of socialism, ipso facto the Nazis were socialist.
You nailed the problem on the head.
"Republicans" or if you would honestly say, American fans of freedom and individual rights, and distrust of government, often don't want to wear masks.
"Democrats", and lovers and trusters of the government insist on always wearing masks.
The problem is that there are places where there are a large collection of people all ontop of eachother and need to wear masks.
And there are a bunch of places where their closest neighbor is 10 acres away and they literally don't need masks.
When the politicians start fucking with the people that they don't represent; and then when you get a media that is biased one way or the other and that seeks only ratings, and also you have a social media fuled by foreign bots and trolls purely only interested in upsetting American democracy, you get the current shit show.
Well it's not as simple as good vs bad, though the Democrats see republicans as evil devils Republicans see democrats as being so naive it's dangerous.
The truth is that it's good vs good. Each side thinks they are the good guys it's just about the tactics they use to get to said goal.
Republicans get to that goal by trying to stay relatively stable tradition wise, which is a good strategy since if it worked in the past it's at least a good foundation for what to do in the future. They acomplish this by putting as many judges that share their sentiment into office as physically (and legally) as possible.
Democrats are the party of "change" change isnt the opposite of tradition though. Change is just trying to make an system better through reform. The defunding of the police montra is a very flawed idea since they have provided zero fallback plans nor actually having ideas for change, its reactionary. Democrats if they wanted change would go at the problem by using facts not emotion to drive their arguments (odd I though the dems were the party of logic and science like 10 years ago).
As a libertarian (not the traitors ho joined the blm movement as a power grab) I respect both the republican and democratic side. It's just that in recent years the republicans have been more in line with moderate opinion rather than going so far to their side they are barely recognizable by their colors.
Republicans seem to actively want to debate more so than democrats which work upon canceling other peoples speech rather than making a cohesive point. Either way make your own perspective on who's right and who's wrong.
Right wingers are overwhelmingly more responsible for policies which have harmed vulnerable people such as sick and disabled people. In my country they have repeatedly put welfare for people like that on the chopping block. Also "cancel culture" is a fad. The big fear monger is about people losing their jobs, yet they don't make the connection that the real issue there is poverty and the fact that not having a job can potentially be something so disastrous. They have taken away a lot of easy access jobs for people who are unlikely to get employment here.
I mean not to be a dick but people who are in wheelchairs definitely cant do some jobs out here. Mechanization has taken away ghe simple jobs for mentally disabled to forge a career out of so they have some semblance of a purpose.
All of which should be the burden of the people rather than the goverment. People who are truely disabled through no fault of their own are fine in our books they should get money for being alive while trying to help the community. Everyone else can at least hope and try to have their children (if they have them anyway) live better lives than them. Sometimes the american dream takes more than one lifetime.
"anyone can join, but the tribe of blacks and women have to be democrats" "nooo we aren't racist or sexist that's all mind control by someone else" You gotta be trolling.
That's the thing: anyone can be American. Only women can be women, and only blacks can be black. Republicans overwhelmingly identify as American first, their race and gender second.
Democrats are the other way around. It didn't always used to be this way, but once Democrats ceded "being American" over to the Republicans, they lost any chance of winning an election.
You mean 4 years ago?
These generalizations aren't as accurate as you're lead to believe by your fellow social media addicts. Intelligent adults do not identify with nationality, political affiliation, race, or sex before their own personal values.
In reality, being a 'trump supporter' has little to do with being a republican - any rational person should be able to see through the bullshit by this point, but it's difficult when you've built your whole identity around supporting him.
Definitions change over time. 'Liberal' hardly means now what it did 30 or 40 years ago. To be a Republican is almost synonymous with being a Trump supporter today, as never Trumpers/neo-cons slowly died out and the populist movement took its place.
Intelligence has no role in what one identifies as. There are some absolutely brilliant, 140+ IQ professors out there tossing molotov cocktails over at police as members of Antifa. Intelligence does not mean you're suddenly a fully rational human being.
Humans aren't rational: we use reasoning to justify our feelings. The sooner you understand that, the better you're able to identify sources trying to persuade you.
I always get confused, as a centrist, moderate. I despise both the parties. I love freedom of speech with no bariers, i respect the right to bear arms to dedend it. I dont love private prisons and private military, but we need the latter to stop China amd Russia from ruining good western values.
its prejudice from people who spend all day obsessin over stoppin prejudice
If you support any institution you're an idiot. It doesn't matter who the president is.
Kinda hard for Trump supporters to be racist when a good deal of them voted for Obama. Twice.
Ahh yes, the old "I can't be racist, I like a black person" defense. Despite the fact that most of them do not like Obama.
Nah, more like the, "I can't be racist, I just voted for a black man to be my leader because I trust their capabilities and character to do what's best as leader to represent me and his skin colour does not prevent him from doing so...Twice" defense.
If you're gonna hit me with sarcasm then please don't be so mentally anorexic over comparing voting in a president to "liking a person".
Trump supporters are not on the whole racist. Sure most white supremacists vote for republicans (though the identitarian left has been getting more popular with them) that doesnt mean the party is actively pegging for that voting block. 10k kkk members in the entire United states isnt going to sway any election so who they vote for really doesnt fucking matter.
The problem is that Trump has become the anti overtly pc, anti marxist binary choice that States voters have. Hopefully the moderate, thinking Americans will not let Trump get in again, and will fix their city, and state politics how they see fit.
Please don't relect Trump because you are not a fan of more local politics.
Why because biden is such a good choice. The man is a puppet at best he cannot go speaking for 15 minutes on his own without offending his own constituents.
Trump with all of his flaws is at least a better alternative to biden. Biden will do whatever the establishment tells him to do so. Trump is hated by the establishment. Enemy of my enemy is my friend.
To label a Trump supporter as a hate monger is absolute nonsense. Why Liberals do this is for manipulation and control. It's called mudslinging. The majority of Trump Supporters out there do not hate minorities or disabled individuals. If you follow the countries laws including but not limited to immigration, then you will be rewarded with the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness. Trump supporters are not out to get people, they want people to follow what is Constitutional and have laws enforced consistently.
Saying someone is racist just because they support trump is just another pathetic tactic used by his opponents. The left making themselves look like tools is what got him elected in the first place lol.
Lots of people believe and support President Trump for a variety of reasons. So totally normal.
Note also that lots of people do not believe or support President Trump for a different variety of reasons. That also is totally normal.
If your willing to be polite to me and discuss the issues to be addressed in this country; then I'm willing to have a discussion to anyone from any political party, culture, etc. regardless of who they support.
Of course it's normal.
Most of us the Trump supporters aren't really that hateful. It's just the media that paints us as evil.
If you can support and vote for a man who has said the things he's said and done the things he's done, STILL, than you're a bad person.