Is it normal that the toilet seat issue with men and women is still a thing?

I have seen in movies and series that sometimes couples have arguments about the toilet seat position, which I found kind of strange, yet funny. But I never thought it was actually a real thing, I just thought it was common running gag or something.

But well, I have been in the States for a few months now, and I am truly shocked to see that some couples actually argue about this issue. But seriously... I am truly shocked, and I will explain why.

I don't want to take the guys's position (I think the whole issue shouldn't exist at all), but it seems to me that the main problem is that women are raised to believe that they are princesses.

First of all, moving the toilet seat requires insignificant effort; and it is easy to forget to put it down for guys sometimes. However, the main issue seems to be that women don't want to touch the toilet seat. And well, about that, I would say that those women are fucking spoiled princesses wannabes and ignorant bitches. If you are disgusted to touch the toilet seat with your hands, then you shouldn't really seat there either. In my culture hygiene is really important, so if you feel disgusted by your own toilet, maybe you should clean it more often.

Now, a real issue would be if there is hair or piss in the toilet seat. I would totally support more fights regarding this issue.

And by the way, there is a right position to leave the toilet... and it is with the lid down as well! It is more hygienic, yet, it would require everyone to constantly touch the toilet seat and lid (which as I said, shouldn't even be an issue).

Ohh... and while I am at this, let me add something else. "A lady shouldn't take out the trash"... Seriously America? Seriously? I am about to organize a seminar about hygiene practices and habits here, people are seriously out of their mind...

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  • bananapie

    Am I the only one who close all lids when flushing?

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    • So do I! I don't want toilet water vapour all over my bathroom surfaces---including my toothbrush.

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    • Fall_leaves

      Me too!

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    • Hayze

      I close the lid when flushing. I have polite discussions with people about that when necessary.

      So yes the toilet seat argument continues I suppose. I would not have anybody move in with me without having an agreement that the lid is to be kept down once anybody of any gender has made use of the toilet!

      I agree with the OP that if the reason for the argument is that women wish to avoid touching it, then they need to have a better cleaning schedule. However, the argument we had in my household while growing up was that the boys attempted to urinate through the hole in the seat instead of raising it, because *they* did not want to touch it. They often failed to avoid leaving splashes of urine on the seat and that is disgusting. Very upsetting to rush to the bathroom and sit in urine :(

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  • Fall_leaves

    I've argued about pee being left on the seat because someone was too lazy to lift it.

    Honestly I wish I had to argue about the seat being left up, soo much better than having to clean a puddle off the seat before I pee..

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  • Wyomingite

    As an American woman,I feel insulted by your word choice. I have been elbow-deep in a horse's rear end pulling a foal that got turned the wrong way. I have given myself and others stitches when healthcare was unaffordable or unavailable. I have cleaned up all kinds of animal crap and changed more diapers than I can count. I have had kids puke, pee, and yes, crap on me, and not blinked twice before cleaning up the mess. I clean my bathroom once a week (or as needed, like if a drunk friends throws up in the tub).
    I am no prissy princess and I do not expect a dude to jack shit for me. Pardon my swearword.
    I don't care if a male guest/boyfriend/whoever leaves the seat up. I care if the don't put the lid down when they flush. The average toilet sprays a mist of germy toilet water over a fifteen-foot radius when it flushes. That means my toothbrush, and that means I am not a happy camper.
    So, yes, I do insist that my friends put down the seat and lid when they're done. I don't like sterilizing my toothbrush every time I have people over. Regardless of whether or not they lifted the seat to pee.
    Once I was at a guy friend's house and I did butt-dunk because I was in a hurry to pee. I wiped myself off with a cleaning wipe to get the poop germs off my lady parts and then went and announced my mishap to my friends so we could all laugh about it.
    Your problem is not with American women, but with certain types of women that transcend race, nation, age, etcetera, to annoy us all.

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    • Well, I didn't want to generalize. Of course I know that not all American girls are like this. But I have been in many countries with different cultures before, and I never witnessed this fight before. And well, what can I say, congratulations for being smart and clean!

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  • anti-hero

    I always put the seat down when I'm finished. I also put the lid down, so the women have to do a little work too.

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  • thegypsysailor

    First off, I've never had the issue of up or down with any woman I've ever known well enough to share a toilet with.
    Second, and most importantly, I believe, if I were a woman I'd be quite happy to come into the bathroom and find the seat up. It would preclude the possibility that some guy had peed all over the seat.
    Doesn't that make sense, girls?

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    • Hayze

      Great to hear that this was never an issue for ou :) I imagine you never left urine on the seat. In my experience that is the matter of argument and not which position the seat is in.

      I still don't like finding seat and lid up because it is quite likely that they were in this position when the flush was used. Yet you are right that I can sit down in confidence that I'm not about to experience discomforting and disgusting wet on my bottom.

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  • RoseIsabella

    It's just plain good manners for men to lift the seat to pee and then put both seats back down when they're done. Some of us have dogs and cats who are smart enough to open bathroom doors and if the seat's left up those critters might drink out of the toilet. If someone doesn't respect the health of my animals I don't want them in my house or my life.

    Having bad manners in my personal living space is a deal breaker for me. I'm happy and grateful that I'm not lonely or desperate enough to accommodate someone who's lazy and unsanitary.

    And don't get me started on people, both male and female who don't wash their hands!

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    • RoseIsabella

      P.S. And people (both male and female) who sprinkle when they tinkle and don't care to be neat and wipe the seat really disgust me. I mean, who does that? Do these jerks want people to see their piss? Sometimes I wonder if these people are trying to mark their territory.

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  • mattcheww45

    That has to be the most petty argument I can think of, I mean, it's not really a monumental effort for the man or the woman either to put a toilet seat down.

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  • Dot123

    It's sexist. Just lift or put down the seat. If you want go ahead and piss sitting down feels quite comfortable.

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    • RoseIsabella

      I like men who are secure enough to pee sitting down.

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      • Dot123

        I do.

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        • RoseIsabella

          Right on!

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  • Holzman_67

    For years i put the lid down thinking that was the females expectation of a man, i felt a bit foolish when i found out it was just the seat.

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    • Hayze

      No, not just the seat. Not just expectation of males.

      I ask all my guests to put the lid down before flushing, irrespective of gender. I hope the males take both seat and lid up when they choose to urinate from standing.

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  • Sweet_Brown

    I'm a woman and I don't make a big ass deal about a damn toilet seat. It only takes two seconds to put it down. Some women are prissy bitches. THEY NEED TO BE SWEET BROWN TOUGH! ain't no man got time to be waiting on hands and knees fah yo asses! DO FAH YASELF!!

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  • 69

    where are you from?

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    • Latin America.

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      • 69

        where in latin america? i'm interested to know where that is NOT an issue. i thought that was a worldwide fight

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        • The country doesn't matter. I don't think that anywhere in Latin America this would happen. I have lived in many countries around here, always with 1 or 2 more girls; and it has never been an issue. We are taught how to have your house always clean since we are little and no one would really feel disgusted of touching their toilet.

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  • dauphinoise

    If moving a toilet seat was insignificant effort, why would anyone complain about it?

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  • NeuroNeptunian

    The only women I have known to care are the kind who practically look for things to whine about.

    Most women will just put the seat down. I've lived with guys long enough to be able to sit on the john with the seat up and use it that way when I forget to look before I sit. I really don't care.

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    • anti-hero

      Damn girl you got a fat ass. jk :)

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  • TwoThumbs

    You know....I need to talk with my wife. You make some interesting points good sir. Why is the seat down the "1st position"? I say...be happy I'm lifting the seat to piss.

    I like how you think compadre.

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  • dom180

    Anyone who argues about it is a stupid diva who needs a good light punch. Taking a side is just fuelling the fire :P

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  • Freedom_

    No one argues with the janitor who leaves the seat up after cleaning... why? My legs are flexible enough that I never have to touch an up-positioned toilet seat with my hands o.O

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  • Psoriano

    The argument about not wanting to touch the seat can be logically refuted quite easily.

    - The lid is just as clean or unclean as the seat (it's bacteria coming from microscopic drops expelled when flushing).
    - Therefore, if touching the seat was detrimental to one's health in any way, so would be touching the lid.
    - The only possible use for the lid involves touching it.
    - Therefore, if touching the seat was detrimental to one's health in any way, the lid would be deemed useless.

    Now try reasoning with a woman who busts your balls about the toilet seat.

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