Is it normal that queer folk change the rules and everyone is just ok with it?

It’s not even worth thinking about

The whole concept of virginity falls apart the more you think about it. It was originally invented to commodify women and is basically meaningless.

For instance, if one woman has had passionate, intimate, world-shiftingly orgasmic oral sex with multiple partners of both sexes she is still a “virgin”. However if another woman has had a man unceremoniously poke his penis in her vagina for 30 seconds leaving her feeling nothing but disappointment she isn’t a “virgin”.

Consider that and answer, what does being a “virgin” really mean?

Virginity is not a real thing, a hymen can be broken by riding a goddamn bike or a horse SMH. Educate yourself. Sex doesn't have to involve or only involve penetration either, if so you must lack quite a lot of creativity and be pretty boring in bed no offence.

Virginity is a religious concept. It has little to do with the function of sex itself and mostly as a means of control.

Maybe we ask why a bunch of celibate men were allowed to define the status of a female's sexual experience. Because the term only recently has referred to males as well as those with vaginas. It has come to mean that first sexual experience and assumes penetration. But that isn't accurate and hardly scientific.

My point, everyone has made up the definition of this concept. No reason to blame queers for it alone.

I've never heard of people saying that oral sex and scissoring means losing their virginity. Most lesbian and bisexual woman I've known just used strap ons on each other and considered that losing their virginity.

Who cares what they want to call it. Virginity is an outdated concept and whether or not you’re a virgin doesn’t mean anything anyway.

I think I have done just about all sexual activities but even so, my opinion of what "virginity" means is -

If you have had any sort of sexual contact with another person, you are not a true virgin at that point.
I don't mean like if a doctor touches you during an exam, that isn't sexual.
I mean like even a blow job or mutual masturbation removes you from the "true virgin" category. Loss of sexual innocence to another person.

You might be a virgin to other things, like how most men still have their ass virginity but as a whole they are not virgins.

Not every woman bleeds when they lose their virginity, especially if they've been active. I think that the whole virginity thing can be beautiful, or ugly. When my first love, and I lost our virginity to each other it was a beautiful thing, and will always remember him. When people from ass backwards cultures make a big deal about whether, or not a woman bleeds the first time she has sex with her husband, and even feel entitled to inspect the bedsheets for blood it's a disgusting, archaic, ignorant, misogynistic and patriarchal, stupid thing!

I personally think virginity is a private matter, and that people shouldn't have to feel so much pressure from their society about it one way, or another. People, both sexes, shouldn't feel embarrassed to still be virgins in a more promiscuous, and liberal society. And women shouldn't be be made to feel like they need to prove themselves by allowing other people to inspect their bedsheets after their wedding night, nor submitting to medical exams to determine whether, or not their hymen has been torn for the purpose of verifying their virginity!!!

I myself was a virgin until the age of 19, and lost my virginity to a young man who was still a virgin 21. I'm very grateful for the experience my first love, and I had, and the love we shared even if our relationship only lasted a year. We were truly in love with each other, we were also equal and reciprocal in our deep affections. I was active in ballet, did some gymnastics and martial arts as well so when I lost my virginity I did not bleed, and experienced no pain, and I am glad for that! I don't think pain, or blood, unless you're on your period, has any place in the experience of physical intimacy.

I personslly do value, respect and highly regard virginity among both women, and men, but I think it's a private matter that people need not make a big deal about. However, I think that cultures, and traditions that so highly value, and demand virginity for young women, but have a double standard that allows,and encourages young men to run around, and do whatever they want are bullshit! The double standard is absolute bullshit! I don't think that a young woman is necessarily damaged, or a slut if she had lost her virginity instead of saving it for her so called future husband. I also don't think that a male who is promiscuous is a stud, or a anything special. This is why I am not a fan of multiculturalism, because there are enough problems with double standards, and inequality between men, and women in the Western world without integrating archaic notions from ignorant Third World countries in the mix; the cultures of many Third World, traditionalists, collectivist cultures, and societies oftentimes ignorant, and certainly not equal to Western cultures, and societies.

Now that I have concluded my rant on to the pressing matter at hand. I think that the issue of virginity is a matter of penetrative, and more specially vaginal sex! I am not actively opposed to LGBT people, in fact all my my best friends in college were gay men! I think that virginity can be defined among gay men as being about penetrative/anal sex. If a lesbian chooses to define her status as to whether, or not she is a virgin on whether, or not she has had oral sex with another woman that is fine, and she's entitled to do so, but I have never defined my virginity as being a matter of whether, or not I have given, or recieved oral sex from another person which in my case would of course be a man. The fundamental concept of virginity is about penetrative sex, and specifically vaginal sex between a man, and a woman. That construct can be somewhat altered to accommodate gay men, because the nature of the sex they have, anal sex is penetrative. However, I still maintain that anal sex tends to be unsanitary, and potentially harmful, even dangerous... but enough talk about "butt fucking". The thing is that if two lesbians have never done anything but have oral sex with other women throughout the course of their lives then by the common definition of virginity they are still, for all practical purposes, virgins by the definition of virginity... and THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT!!!

I don't use the word "CIS", and I NEVER will! People of all sorts of sexual orientations can think of oral sex in whatever way they so choose, and they can even think of it as a determinant of virginity, but that doesn't make it so, and it never will. Other people can think of natural XX chromosome women as CIS women, but I never will, because I am simply a woman, I am simply a natural woman! I will always love my LGB friends from college, and I do consider myself LGBT friendly, and relatively accepting, but I do not accept the trans agenda to force pronouns, and other words on the rest of the world. I had a very dear trans woman friend that I considered a woman, and I always used the pronouns with her, because she was my friend, was post-operative and passed as female, but I did that by choice, and I will never accept anyone, or any group attempting to think they can force any agenda, or vocabulary on the rest of the world.

Right now heterosexual virgins are having oral sex with each other... and you know what? They are still virgins until they have actual intercourse. BOOM! It's called reality, people can attempt to create their own reality, but they can't force it on the rest of the world!

It counts as masturbation anyway, so who cares?