Is it normal that my dad makes comments about my body & makes me uncomfortable?

This is really starting to bother me.

I love my dad. He's wonderful. We have a lot in common and are huge nerds together. But for the past few years I've begun to feel incredibly uncomfortable around him (since I've started college). It started when my family was eating and somehow the topic became about my breasts. I told my mom that my breasts were too small for this shirt and laughed. Then my dad piped in and said, "[my name], your breasts are NOT small." That made me feel very uncomfortable, because the way he said it made it seem he'd thought about it enough to form an opinion on it.

Suddenly I started to feel weird, and I began feeling uncomfortable wearing anything revealing around him. I noticed that he makes comments about my body a lot, and only does that with me and my mom, but NEVER with my older sister (even though she's very pretty). He will say to me, "That outfit looks great on you." "Those shorts look good on you." "I like those jeans on you." "You have such beautiful hair." "You're a very attractive young woman." He's made additional comments about the size of my breasts, and my butt. They aren't very common, but when it happens I feel so gross and weird. Sometimes I think the problem is me, but I hate it so much I don't think it is. I never felt weird about hugging him before but now I do.

I've been plagued with a memory of him sleeping next to me as a small child and feeling incredibly strange about it. I don't remember anything happening in that memory; all I remember is even as a child feeling something was wrong, and I wanted to leave. My mom said she didn't want him changing my diapers as a baby and it made me think. But she said she was only paranoid.

I had a dream about him raping me when I was about 9 and I was so sickened by it I've never been able to forget it. When he compliments my body I remember this dream and it makes me want to throw up. Dreams don't have to mean anything ever happened though. He had anger problems when I was a child and would spank my sister & I when we were naked. This might be why I had that weird dream. But I grew up feeling very self-conscious about my body and never wanting anyone to see me. My sister did not have this problem though. I can't tell if it's just me or not.

I don't want to accuse him of anything because I love him so much but all these things combined makes me feel weird about being next to him. I don't remember him EVER touching me inappropriately. NEVER. When I got older he's always respected my space and we shared a tent together this summer on a camping trip and he was normal and fine. But the way he talks to me or looks at me sometimes makes me squirm. I can't tell if it's just me, or if what he's saying and doing really is inappropriate.

EDIT: (Oddly phrased question. When voting, vote if it's normal for me to feel uncomfortable about my dad complimenting me like this.)

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  • pixie44

    If it makes you feel uncomfortable than ask him to stop. and Also I'd stop making any comments about your body all together. I think he knows you're self conscious about your body and he wants to tell you how beautiful you are.

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  • Yutolia

    My dad also makes inappropriate comments about my appearance. He also likes to tell me (usually in public, no less) about the sex he has with my mom. However, the big kicker (and my mom doesn't know) is that he actually did molest me once when I was 8. Since then, I've looked at these kind of comments directed at kids as a kind of red flag. These comments are disguised as compliments but it really feels like they are not because now when he says these things, it's obvious how uncomfortable it makes me, but he thinks my discomfort is hilarious and it means that I am weak (and just to clarify, these are not comments like "oh you look really pretty today" or something - it's more like "you have really big tits and I like they way they look in that dress" or "I think that waiter wants to f*ck you" also said so that the waiter can hear, etc).

    So, it might be common, but I don't think it's normal. Good luck figuring out how you want to handle this!! I'm still working on that myself.

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    • lakskfkgkgk

      "I think that waiter wants to f*ck you"
      It was okay until this came up. Okayyy who people want to fuck or not is not up for him to decide. He meant it in a good way but it wasn’t very appropriate.

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  • myspace84

    It almost seems like you're mom knows what's up. Why would she not let him change your diaper if there wasn't a concern? And if she did it to protect you without any cause then there could be the start of your conditional thinking.

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    • green_boogers

      EXACTLY - failure to launch. Your Dad is socially clueless and is trying to encourage you in a socially clueless way. You are socially clueless and are misinterpreting your own need to become independent from both parents. Put your chin up, take action on your studies and plans for your life. And, move out of your parents house as soon as it is practical.

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  • RoseIsabella

    "He had anger problems when I was a child and would spank my sister & I when we were naked."
    The thought of it makes my skin crawl. Eww!

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  • Ellenna

    You're not feeling these feelings for no reason. It seems almost definite to me that you have been sexually abused in the past and that his continual inappropriate references to your body are triggering these feelings.

    "Anger problems" which result in an adult male spanking his little girls when they're naked = abuse and probably sexual abuse.

    Please also be aware that it's quite common for sexually abused children to love the abusing parent and one of the most damaging longterm effects is this conjuntion of abuse and love.

    Can you talk to your Mum? Difficult I know. Or a school counsellor?

    Please, please get some professional help with this or believe me, it can totally fuck up the rest of your life and your future relationships. Are there women's centres with support for sexual abuse and rape? In Australia they're usually called Centres Against Sexual Assault, but I don't know where you are - US?

    Please take care of yourself and let us know how you get on.

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    • justpasssingthrough

      I don't know if I can talk to my mother about it. It would destroy their marriage. They both had problems when I was a kid and they were both quite abusive to me. (My mom is Borderline & bi-polar, so she has some problems too). They nearly got divorced when I was young and they are just now starting to love each other--and me--again. What if I'm wrong? I would destroy my relationship with my dad and he would never talk to me again. And my mom wouldn't either. My sister would tell me I'm crazy and trying to start drama. I wouldn't have a family anymore.

      I feel a lot of guilt and shame and self-hatred because of abuse in my past but I never thought it was sexual. My mom told me she always suspected I was sexual abused somewhere but I've written it off as paranoia because she was sexually abused herself as a child.

      Do you really think I might've been sexually abused? I can't bear to think my dad could've done something like that to me. I'm in the U.S. but I live with my parents to save money in college. They're better now. To each other and to me. But I don't want to believe my dad could've done this.....

      Thank you for your reply and concern. This is putting my life in a different light now.

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      • John4555t

        Don't let people put ideas in your head. People can be made to think they committed a crime just through the power of suggestion. It's a phenomenon that police have often exploited to frame suspects during interrogations.

        If you can't remember being abused then you probably weren't. The world isn't full of monsters lurking around every corner. Your father could be attracted to you. It happens and he didn't ask to have those feelings if he does. Gently let him know that you're uncomfortable with his commenting on your body. He might get mad but he'll get over it. He needs to know that he can't act on any feelings that he might have, and that they are UNWELCOME. If he has any good in him and values the father daughter relationship you two have, then on some level he'll appreciate it and be relieved. If not, then you'll have to think about withdrawing from the relationship.

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        • RamenNoodleMaster#2

          Agreed, once again Ellenna is attempting to spread her misguided liberal opinions to the poor girl, she doesn't realize that by introducing such sick thoughts to the normal situation of a father complementing his daughter will likely ruin the relationship between the both of them. If nothing inappropriate happened there is nothing to worry about. The fact that everyone is trying to over-diagnose situations is very alarming, most fathers compliment their daughters looks and yes that includes, if it makes you uncomfortable you could always lightly tell him to stop
          for example

          Dad: Your looking good in that dress Isabella

          You:Dad! Stop!(in a joking tone)"

          Dad: Laughs and continues on with his day

          Its pretty simple, although if he does start making physical advances on you that is totally inappropriate and you have every right to no longer to to him.

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          • lakskfkgkgk

            Agree, I think complimenting people is completely normal. Thank you

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      • Ellenna

        OK, it doesn't sound at all appropriate to bring this up in your family at this stage, but I do strongly recommend you get some professional help: whatever has happened and who, if anyone, sexually abused you your feelings are throwing you into turmoil and that won't just go away by itself.

        I have no idea what resources are available in the US for this sort of situation, but someone on here will know if you give your state.

        Honey, it mightn't have been your dad, but you do need to find out and the answer is within you. The fear of destroying the family is what stops a lot of abused people from speaking out about it and I'm sure it's possible for you to get support somewhere to work out what is best for you to do.

        Take care of yourself and stay in touch

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        • justpasssingthrough

          Thank you for your help. If I find anything out I will let you know.

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          • Ellenna

            I'm glad if anything I've said helped - take care

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    • John4555t

      "It seems almost definite to me that you have been sexually abused in the past..."

      What the heck? She explicitly said in her post that she could NEVER remember being touched inappropriately by her father. Your assertion seems pretty paranoid and baseless.

      It seems to me that her father might be on some level sexually attracted to her but that he doesn't want to hurt their father, daughter relationship. He can't help the feelings he has. He probably struggles with them and he certainly didn't ask to have them. He just can't act on them. She should gently let him know that it makes her feel uncomfortable when he makes comments about her body. He might get mad but if he loves her he'll get over it. There's a lot of long term value in parental relationships, certainly financially if nothing else, and that should be considered.

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      • Ellenna

        It's not a baseless assertion and I'm not paranoid: re-read her paragraphs which being "I've been plagued" and "I had a dream" respectively.

        You're very ignorant if you don't know that many people who are sexually abused in childhood don't remember it until some other incident triggers off uncomfortable feelings later in life.

        There have been cases of weird shrinks & others instilling "false memories" of sexual abuse but I've never heard of a case where someone mistakenly remembered such incidents without prompting.

        He IS in fact acting on his feelings with his comments: if he had any sesnsitivity he would realise it's making her uncomfortable and would stop doing it, he's on a power trip.

        I also comment that it's not uncommon for abusers and abusers to also love each other, that doesn't mean it isn't abuse

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  • chained_rage

    I think you're just being overly sensitive for no reason.

    Check it out:

    You say he doesn't do this with your sister even though she is absolutely gorgeous.
    You say that him and you are nerds.
    From my understanding about nerdy people, they usually feel like outcasts and feel bad about themselves.

    I think your dad is just trying to make you feel better about yourself and trying to give you some confidence. However quirky or creepy it may come across.

    He tells you that you look really pretty in that outfit, your hair looks nice, etc. He's just trying to make you feel better for whatever reason.

    You say that he is a good dad. So why do you think these bad thoughts of somebody who has been good to you?

    How is your relationship with your dad? Better than your sister's relationship with him? Worse? Maybe he is just trying to salvage or save it. You're his baby. Even though you are an adult now, you will always be his baby.

    Either that or he's planning to split open your guts with a chainsaw and run through your spewing discharge like a kid through a sprayer on a hot summer's day

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    • Ellenna

      Well your last paragraph shows clearly what sort of an insensitive sick person you are: this is not a subject to make disgusting violent jokes about

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  • Lastchild725

    Ok, you don't recall him sexually abusing you. He's never raped you. He's had anger issues when you were younger, probably when things were very stressful. I'm not saying spanking is any kind of good, but it's not unheard of in any way.

    There's a lot of neo feminist rhetoric going on lately that has unfortunately made many women turn themselves into unnecessary victims. My mother used to say I looked good in that shirt, handsome, dashing ect. I never took it as her coming on to me. I took at as her trying to build up my confidence, because you know, college can be stressful. Even demoralizing.

    You should know your father better than anyone here. But be conscious of what you are reading and listening to lately. Think clairvoyantly and calmly about your father and his history and decide your actions based on that, not grasping at threads like you seem to be doing right now.

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    • Ellenna

      Think clairvoyantly? WTF does that mean?

      And WTF is "neo feminist rhetoric"? Women empowering other women to speak out and change their lives for the better? It's not turning anyone into a victim to support them in becoming more aware and self-aware.

      Her FEELINGS are what's important here - she sounds sensible and thoughtful, not is she "grasping at threads", whatever TF that means.

      If you knew anything you'd know that child sexual abuse was just not acknowledged or talked about as the widespread issue we now know it to be, until Women's Liberationists raised the issue in the 70's, mainly because Freud decided the women patients he'd initially totally believed must've been lying about their abusive fathers, because his mates wouldn't have done that to their daughters, would they?

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      • Lastchild725

        You're either a troll or retarded and honestly I can't be bothered to explain all the mistakes in your answer. Fuck off and waste someone else time.

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  • chuy

    So many red flags, loooks like you represed sone memories of something that happend. And your mom knows about it.

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  • hyhy101

    Oh my god its like looking into a mirror! My mom is bipolar and my dad has done the exact same thing. My mom always got jumpy when people talk about pedophiles, and one time i mentioned feeling uncomfortable around my dad and she kind of freaked out and changed the subject. i live away from them now but i worked with a therapist specializing in sexual assault to put together my memory. Alot of times we think of traumas like this as "not real" what resonates the most with me about your story is THE DREAM. 9 year olds litterally CANT imagine rape. How would your 9 year old mind come up with that before you even know what sex is? Unless youve been exposed to some kind of sexual abuse, or witnessed some kind of violent sexual behavior (not nessecarily by your dad) but somehow 9 year old you had a dream about it so graphic youre STILL remembering it years later. I had a "dream" that someone was touching me while i was sleeping. And guess what?

    Maybe im projecting my story onto you, but my opinion is that you should tell your mom you feel uncomfortable with your dads comments to start, just so she knows how you feel about it, and ask if you can see a therapist. if you absoloutly cant tell your dad you dont like what hes saying, maybe your mom can tell him, and the sooner you get into therapy, (with a therapist specializing in abuse hopefully) the sooner you can unravel whats really going on with you, abuse or not.

    People who say that others are "putting ideas into your head" have never been sexually assaulted and dont know that you cant just "Convince yourself" that youve been sexually assaulted. You either have or you havnt, and the human mind is a complicated thing that only wants to protect itself. most survivors dont remember thier abuse till they get older and start having strange feelings or memories.

    Theres only so much strangers can guess on the internet, but i hope youre okay either way.

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  • wafflesundays

    I have never felt this way about my old man but if I did I would be like "yo! Dad thats just inappropriate" every time he said anything wierd. maybe he thinks you are self conciouse and the only way he knows how to boost your feelings is by coming across a bit creepy. If you are close to your sis just ask her how she feels about your dad and ask her if she feels the same way?

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  • despuit

    My sisters dad is like that, always sexualising her... touching her bum. I think it is odd regarding the context, and unnatural as both parties don't have a proper understanding.

    The conversation can go both ways is either wrong or is not. Some monkeys are aggressive and only have relations with select few, others are more altruistic and use sex as a social tool. Pubic hair develops to notify others in species the subject is able to have sex safely, with our knowledge we know genetic disorders can occur if you procreate of those in a close bloodline.

    So simply objectively speaking you can be more distant from your dad by standing your ground and puffing your chest going no dad bad touch or you can be closer with him and other people with your life by being more comfortable with your body and laying with those close. Don't sleep around or what not, sex is nothing special is like giving someone a hug only more intimate. Is a symbol of marriage (read the bible, sex out of marriage is badly defined example how people extrude ethics from the bible), if you are close to someone and know you are going have them in your life for awhile becoming closer is only natural.

    This way of life really redefines what a husband or wife is, because we are all brother and sister why can't you potentially have multiple children and society raise them. People would be a lot less messed up as we all assume responsibility as a group rather then 7 billion broken homes all competing with each other and allowing media to raise our kids. My idea of the world though is very different. One without natural disaster, hunger, counter productivity of a global scale, illness, etc. So yeah I am the crazy one.

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    • Ellenna

      Monkeys have nothing to do with this issue because we're not monkeys ... well I'm not, how about you? They don't wear clothes or wear cooked food or use the internet either.

      "Laying with those close"??? Just how close do you mean? Like father and daughter?

      The bible is no help with this issue or similar ones: haven't you noticed there's nothing in the much-touted ten commandments about not raping women or sexually abusing children?

      I don't think you're necessarily crazy but I do think you should turn your brain on before you get out of bed in the morning

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      • despuit

        We are descendents of the genus sapiens.... pretty monkey-like considering our subjective nature embedded by the avaricious will animals.

        As close as an electromagnetic field permits, whomever involved seems irrelevant to me. Is denoted as altruistic bonding.

        The bible is the greatest resource in the world next to the dictionary. My two favourite books. Which both are not solely based upon, if this is how you are interpreting these works in a literal sense you will not go very far. The ten-commandments are no different and no more correct, and or incorrect then our present day laws applied. Is merely code to live by. Doesn't mean anything, never said anything about it. Will not tell you my opinions on the matter because is irrelevant, and in vein.

        Which is fine, that is your opinion. You're entitled to that much. Many people of your league have the same opinion.

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        • Ellenna

          And what "league" do you think that is? I don't belong to any "league" ....

          We're also probably descendants of single cell creatures that crawled out of the primeval slime - what does that prove? Never heard of neuro plasticity? I'm always VERY suspicious of people who use the "descended from monkeys/apes/gorillas" argument, good excuse for some people to do what they like with no regard to any ethical standards.

          The bible the "greatest resource in the world" yeah sure ........ If written works not stated to be fiction are not to be interpreted literally, how else does one interpret them? Of course the answer to that is obvious, every individual or crackpot sect interprets it according to what they want to do anyway - eg ISIS for a start, islam is based on the old testament too, you know, and look how fanatical fringe groups have interpreted that for their own ends and a lot of christian and jewish groups are no better.

          It's just a book mate, a book written by no-one knows who for his/their own ends ... I deliberately haven't included /her in there, because no woman could've written the misogynist hateful crap which permeates the old testament.

          You may love your dictionary & your bible but you need a third book on clear thinking and maybe a fourth one on clear expression: WTF do electromagnetic fields have to do with the issue under discussion? Altruistic bonding would surely be for the benefit of all individuals involved, which isn't the case here: one person is using his position of power to behave as he likes to his daughter whether or not she likes it - not the definition of altruistic which is in my dictionary

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          • despuit

            Those of which are similar to you would by example be in your league.

            Foreshadows the aesthetics of an intrinsic bio-mechanical machine, made of not one however billions of individuals of varying perception.

            In regard to ethical standards, this is relative to your personal scope of perception. I see no good/bad, everything simply is.

            Is merely derived sub-cults of understanding, logically there is no particular right or wrong way to digest such material. However through the scientific method, the understanding of properties, and philosophical relativity one can derive a pretty straight forward understanding. Regardless of the dynamic nature.

            Is a not a singular book with a singular author. Is a group of text, passed on from the proto-indoeuropean cultures. Over time they were re-interpreted into what you know the bible. Sex is irrelevant people of all kinds have contributed to the totality of the writings. And that level of understanding is localised to the understanding of the particular passage and its personal history.

            Physics man, come on. What? Was beyond this, I said that was not particularly proper in such context. However under the defined context I had suggested as an alternative. Eg. interjecting a new level of understanding to make such proper there would be no issue. Which would have to be derived from altruism over our dominate avaricious natures.

            I don't mind explaining things to a certain extent, however take some more time with what people say. Somethings I didn't go into detail as this will just keep going. Same as how I transcribed I was not discussing ethics which again you brought up. Instead of going into detail I just wrote it off. If you reply, I will not again. You haven't provided anything of value to my growth curve, rather have hinder such by being similar to a child in understanding.

            That is your league, in no disregard meant. People of such are not able to take things at face value, analyse them, and research said information. Then and only then provide corresponding information expanding on the all ready provided data.

            You have just repeated yourself and provided basic examples that are expected of people in such a league. Is not your fault, is societies as a whole. We are a very counter-productive race. Crude, and childish in entirety. Until our education standards are incorporated into physiological development as it should be it will never happen. Eg. how your type of people celebrate birthdays, and deaths and think it's all a big thing to work up about. You apply physiological development as a basis of mental imperative. I do not mean you as an individual rather a group.

            Is self-conceded to think of ourselves as individuals. We should be a singular neural network, yet instead we operate in and our divided by caste systems. Eg. the league I referenced prior. Which is why we are so counter-productive.

            Completely innate insanity is what it is, but as you yourself have exemplified is not about to change any time soon.

            Was nice talking with though I really should learn to regress replying to such droll in the future. But you never know when someone is genuinely willing to listen and provide a respectable opinion. So is worth the risk.

            Remember not to boast of self, rather of god and of the unity it brings. (you'll have a field day with this one, silly people don't know what god is.)

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            • Ellenna

              That's far too convuluted and patronising for me to bother even attempting to reply to, but I will say that I'll be 70 in a couple of years' time and in spite of a lack of formal education because I had to support myself from an early age, I have an intelligent mind and have worked out my personal approach to many complicated concepts.

              I can also get my point of view across in an understandable way, not to mention succintly.

              Goodbye, I have better things to do on an autumn sunday in my beautiful mountains: they and the river and my dog and my garden all make much more sense than you do

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