Is it normal that i think reproducing should be authorized by the government?

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Ever since I was little I always thought it was weird that just ANYONE who wants a kid can go ahead and have one regardless of how prepared they are, how mature, how mentally stable...and look what happens. Kids are beaten, molested, neglected, traumatized, sometimes even seriously hurt/killed by parents. I know the last one doesn't happen that often but it DOES happen. The majority of parents I know are young people who would rather drop the kid off with their grandparents and go drinking or whatever else; they didn't plan for their kid and they aren't too happy about having one, and they are doing the bare minimum to take care of them.

This is my idea for a future society, and I think it would work. Lets pretend its for the colony they want to start on Mars, and they're thinking of ways to keep the population under control and start a better society than the one on Earth.

I think it would be best for the government to regulate and have to "approve" people who want to become parents, just like they would at any adoption agency, to make sure they're suitable prospective parents. They'd have to make enough to support the child, they would have to be OLD ENOUGH, they'd have to go through psychological testing to make sure they aren't a pedophile or something, and they'd only be allowed up to 2 children per household until those kids grow up, then they could have 2 more. Now these are just rough ideas of how it would work, off the top of my head.

In order to keep people from having unauthorized pregnancies, most likely the women would go through a routine operation when they're pre-pubescent, in which the doctor would insert some kind of birth control device, like the ones we have now that prevent pregnancy for 6 years. It would have to be replaced every so often until the person is approved for a pregnancy.

(I know this sounds harder on the woman, and I'm a woman myself, but I'm only suggesting that method because I don't know of any other thing a guy could do except for a vasectomy which, as far as I know, isn't reversible.)

So does anyone else think this might be a good idea? I know that people have a "natural born right" to procreate- I KNOW that. But to me, having a child, being able to raise someone who is totally dependent on you and who will love you despite all you might put them through, is a PRIVILEGE, and its something that a lot of people don't appreciate, or deserve. Anyway, opinions please!

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  • Carasaysherro
    12 years ago

    I find so many things wrong with this i don't even know where to start. Maybe start by reading these books; Invitation to the Game, Delirium, and Among the Hidden and Matched. I know they're grade school books but they seriously Show how it would be if the government had such control over us.

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    • [Old Memory]
      12 years ago

      Thanks, I've been meaning to check out some new books anyway, so I will look into them.

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  • FASHIONWHORE
    12 years ago

    So what if I have triplets or more? I agree about the maturity, but not the limit on the amount a family should have.

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    • [Old Memory]
      12 years ago

      They'll probably have some kind of repo man (or should I say reaper man) for that sort of thing...

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    • [Old Memory]
      12 years ago

      2 children per household was only a rough estimate. I don't think they should kill any babies, if more than 1 or 2 at a time was born. I just thought they should aim for 2.

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    • Cobrakitnu
      12 years ago

      I agree.

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  • BenjiBoy531
    12 years ago

    I kind of agree with you because it seems like most of the time, it's the people who do not need kids that have them. And the people that really need or deserve them can't have them.

    I just get sick of seeing LOWLIFE pieces of sh*t who just pop out kids to get food stamps and government money so they can sit at home in the projects and not do a damn thing. Not racist, I know whites, blacks, and Mexicans that all do it.

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  • black_houzi
    12 years ago

    Sounds like China's one child policy, which slightly works because the population was increasing and now is slowing down. But there are problems when the government regulates the population, people start getting riled up and angry.

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  • [Old Memory]
    12 years ago

    Lucky you're not a government or anything, I'm pretty sure you would get shot by someone for wanting this.

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      12 years ago

      Yeah well, Abe Lincoln was shot for wanting to make positive changes too.

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  • [Old Memory]
    12 years ago

    I agree 100%. I hope one day soon this will be how it works, rather than being forced to move to a different planet first XD...
    China's one child policy is a great example, but yeah I think your idea would work really well for helping control the world population and stopping child abuse etc.

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  • [Old Memory]
    12 years ago

    i agree to a degree... but with my suicidle past i wud not b able to have one or more kids in ur world or the one we r living in now!... i want a baby so badly! i cry alot bout it and it dont help my fiance is infertile!

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  • turquoiise
    12 years ago

    I don't agree. This and things of the sort can't be imposed on people. The incidents you mentioned occur in presence of other problems in 100% of the cases, such as mental diseases, which HAVE to be identified and cured, or in case of killings even transitory fury which would be unpredictable and might happen in any person anyway. Or perhaps someone hasn't the economical means to raise their own children. It's the government's responsibility to help these families effectively. You have to solve the problems at their root. That's more difficult, yes, but that way you don't only solve one problem, but many.

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  • [Old Memory]
    12 years ago

    i dont agree. no one should be denied having children by the government. i mean if somthings wrong theyre allowed to take their kids away and if the parents dont want the kid theres abortion adoption and stuff like that soo i disagree on that one

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    • [Old Memory]
      12 years ago

      So you think its better for them to take children away from their parents, and murder them, then impose birth control? (and I only use the word "murder" here because some people see abortion as murder.)

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  • SwimBikeRun
    12 years ago

    That's really giving up quite a freedom we are lucky to have. I'd be interested to know who would be making this final decision about who gets to have the kids when looking at the collective data? There could be parents with a lower IQ and a lower income but love kids to death. There could be brilliant parents who make tons of money but leave the kids to a nanny. How do you define what a good parent is on paper?

    We have soldiers who fight and die for us every day so we can enjoy our freedoms and that suggestion to me is a slap in their face.

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  • t33h33
    12 years ago

    not in america. maybe in africa

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    • t33h33
      12 years ago

      no racism intended. but there is a lot of children brought into the world who live a horrid short life and then die.

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  • Someone_Pants
    12 years ago

    This is tyrannical. Please don't run for any kind of office in the United States.

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    • Marinar4Sauce
      12 years ago

      Are you joking? The Patriot Act took away more rights than this is trying to. The world is severely over populated; there has to be either food/water/energy restrictions, or birth restrictions. Really, Many people are ill-equipped for raising a child. I mostly agree with OP, but think there are a lot of different ways to go about this.

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      • turquoiise
        12 years ago

        The world isn't overpopulated. You could actually put the entire world's population in a territory as big as Northern Italy as I read somewhere, and you'd still have the rest of the world to live in. There are areas that could be much more populated but aren't. I'm not saying you should live in the middle of a tropical forest or at the North Pole. But some countries are undeniably underpopulated. I'll take the Northern European countries as my example since I am European myself. They are wealthy and beautiful countries. But people never migrate there. Why? Because the climate is colder. But there are people who live in Northern Sweden/Norway/Finland with no or few problems, so it's definitely NOT impossible to live there. People just don't want to cooperate, preferring whatever is easier.
        There are also enough resources for everyone, but too much is going to waste because so few people can access them. We should think about this instead of just applying restrictions. Here in Italy we just had a referendum with a couple questions concerning water restrictions, so I know what I'm talking about...

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    • [Old Memory]
      12 years ago

      Oh I can safely promise that I wont.

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  • stone_love
    12 years ago

    It wouldn't work in practicality. AT ALL. You can't just impose a law like that on citizens.

    I've always thought your IQ should be in a high percentile to be allowed to reproduce. But you could never try to control a society that way and expect peaceful compliance.

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    • [Old Memory]
      12 years ago

      I don't think its such a far leap from how they require children to be vaccinated before entering school, that kind of thing. Its for the good of all, and were so used to it that we don't question it now, but imagine how it was when that idea was first introduced. "What?! You want to stick a gigantic needle into my child's arm, and purposefully GIVE THEM this disease?" (Sure it was a harmless form of the disease meant to help you build up an immunity against the deadly one later on, but they probably saw it as germs being put into a healthy child's body.) Alot of things that are normal now were thought of as outlandish at first.

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      • stone_love
        12 years ago

        It's a very far leap from that, because you're proposing that we take away some people's rights, and leave others intact. Becoming a parent is one of the most crucial biological desires that's ingrained into our minds. Just look at what people already complain about with the abortion issue.

        For the record I don't have much interest in having kids at all, but it's obvious that for the vast majority of people it's their most significant life's desire, or whatever.

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        • [Old Memory]
          12 years ago

          It seems like with every decision, some rights are given and some are taken away. With abortion, rights are given to the mother but taken away from the fetus. Maybe I can't fully comprehend how people would feel the need to reproduce more than twice because I don't want kids either. I guess the only way we'd know if this whole thing would work is if it was tried out, but it probably never will be.

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  • Tisgranum
    12 years ago

    I think the principal is good, I have thought along the same lines. One simpler way to control reproduction would be to vasectomies the men; way less intrusive. Just save their sperm in a sperm bank and, when they decide to procreate, you do insemination.

    The growing population is quite a problem and there could come a time when we need better control of it for sure. I think that instead of being too picky on who procreates, the government could be more involved in the raising of children.

    All of this sounds like the lost of a lot of freedoms but it's all about achieving greater goals. It's not like if society as a whole is that happy with freedom anyway.

    Heck there may even come a time when we want to procreate more to colonize all the planets we gain control of, lol

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  • aheinzman94
    12 years ago

    I think it is an interesting idea but I don't think that it is a good idea at all. This world already has far too much government regulation as far as I am concerned and we don't need them invading this right as well. Sure some people are not great parents but I mean you should not punish an entire nation based on the actions of a few people. You know?
    Also when you are 13 you certainly do not want any doctor poking around in that region but that is jus my own insecurity I am sure many others have.
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  • happymamaa
    12 years ago

    So what happens if someone just so happens to have triplets or more? Is the government going to kill the child? Take the extra child/children away? I agree with the money thing and maturity thing but I don't agree with the limit on children. How many children one has should be a personal decision. As well as birth control. Some people can't take birth control due to blood disorders.

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  • kittenlittle
    12 years ago

    If people would just except death and stop trying to keep everyone alive the population would rapidly decline. thats why diseases exist. its apart of the circle of life which is being destroyed by technology

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    • [Old Memory]
      12 years ago

      I think it's much better now that we have medicine that can keep you alive longer. People used to be lucky if they could live past 30! To me, its better to control the population by using birth control methods, and use medicine to help those that are born live long, healthy lives.

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  • kittenlittle
    12 years ago

    and just because the parent wont abuse a child does not mean an uncle or someone else wont

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  • kittenlittle
    12 years ago

    Just because someone can pass a test and has lots of money does not mean they wont abuse or molest a child, you can lie on a test.I also don't think reproducing is whats causing over population. I think its technology and medicine that keeps everyone alive and makes life easy is whats causing the overpopulation.

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  • squeallikeasacofpigs
    12 years ago

    Good idea in theory and would defo solve so much shit. BUTTT, can't really pin people down and operate on them to make the sterile at a young age...yea..kinda freaky

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  • Faceless
    12 years ago

    I agree.

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  • DeadByDesign
    12 years ago

    Fuck the government

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  • shade_ilmaendu
    12 years ago

    I agree for the most part, but there has to be exceptions to the 2 per household.

    AND, birth control should never be forced upon women. It must be a choice, and you probably don't know how bad birth control is for a womans body. Most people don't.

    I know when I was on the pill I had all kinds of additional problems caused by the hormones and experienced some nasty side effects.

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    • [Old Memory]
      12 years ago

      I know birth control now has alot of side effects. This is just a hypothetical situation in which we'd be alot more advanced, and I assumed they might have better birth control methods by then.

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  • [Old Memory]
    12 years ago

    If you read my post at all you would know that it PREVENTS people from having too many kids, not killing ones that already exist. Save that kind of language for when you know what youre talking about.

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  • [Old Memory]
    12 years ago

    medicate the water so everyone is sterile or has no libido

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    • Austalien
      12 years ago

      It seems that western governments are doing that, I don't want them contaminating my water

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      • [Old Memory]
        12 years ago

        get a filter ...but babies are being born in australia

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        • Austalien
          12 years ago

          Australia has a really low population also, So I don't think they would care about it.

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  • aduusw
    12 years ago

    Yet, reproduction is a human right... It can't be taken away.

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    • Tisgranum
      12 years ago

      Many human rights have already been taken away

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