Is it normal that i think aa is a cult?

As my uncle, an alcoholic will say "One drink is too much, Too much is barely enough". The Aussie version of AA he said was much the same, at least where he attended, run by extremist Christians. And this was in the early 80s. He recounted many times he would bring alcohol to the meetings just to piss off the organisers, as he was (and still is) a shit-stirrer with people who think they it's their way or Satan's way. He said he's done good business with Satan over the last 50 years and doesn't want to piss him off! I think it depends on the person or persons who run the local arm of AA. I'm an alcoholic myself, but I can control it. I did what I thought was stupid and asked my partner for help, and he's a student psychologist. He says with all addictions, there is no line between physical and psychological. It can be overcome with extreme self control, patience and time. I've found in my time, apart from him telling me those words, the only one who can help me...is me. Don't let fundamentalists tell you otherwise and force you to believe what they WANT you to believe. It's what YOU believe that matters. I've got a few posts on here about what I believe about myself and my opinions just for feedback. But, it's ultimately what you think is right.

"If You've made an enemy, you've done something right"

As far as I've heard of AA and other recovery groups I don't agree with most their philosophies.

They do seem cult like.

" can't you see Stan, I'm sick "

But yeah if I ever my addictive personality ever got me into alcoholism I couldn't go to aa it would be hard enough to quit let alone having to put up with opportunistic asshole like that, it's just seeing someone who's down and using that opportunity to push an agenda

Really? I know someone who went to AA and she's as anti-religion as they get. She never mentioned God before while she was there. Did you accidentally attend an Allah Anonymous group?? As for not wanting friends, I think that's somewhat healthy. I think they definitely need at least one or two decent friends but it's good to be independent and not rely on others to fulfill needs.

I still go because the temptation is still kind of there sometimes. It is hereditary. It isn't normal they are so insistent on the god thing if that is not your thing. You could probably find one that doesn't do that. Or start one.

How bad of an alcoholic or addict were you that you were thrust into such a thing against your will??

You just need to take what you need from the program. I go to NA and don't actively do steps or anything. It's nice to have somewhere to vent with people who have similar pasts. Fuck the steps and their brainwashing abilities.

Plus you're right. People in aa micromanage your life and don't want you to live in the real world. Going to aa just made me want to drink more

Aa is a cult. I was there for a long time and it was nothing but bs. Get out while you can. There are better ways of getting sober

"Religion is a crutch"
"a crutch isn't a bad thing if your crippled".

"I'd rather be in AA pretending I'm an alcoholic, then be out there pretending I'm sober"

You can take the good parts without buying into the bullshit, but that's up to the individual person. I tend to agree with you mostly, that there's a danger people can trade an alcohol addiction for an AA addiction. I could be wrong, I've never been to AA as my impression is similar to what you describe. And I don't know how much they push the powerlessness/submission aspects of it, but it could vary in different countries etc.

Having said that, if it works for people it's not all bad.
I think it really does depend on the person and how they interpret it.

Although I do agree with you that identifying as an alcoholic/drug addict years later strikes me as utter bullshit and may even be harmful - being a powerless alcoholic is a good reason to keep drinking after a relapse.

So...as far as cunts go, I think it's pretty harmless. But I don't know enough about the actual reality of it.

When you praise and worship the god of booze, you have to change your religion. Historically, religion has been a great way to modify behavior of the masses.

It certainly sounds like it. At least it is not at the level of Scientology. I don't think that it is right for these types of groups/organisations to push their ideologies on the psyche of others. Disgusting.