Is it normal that i agree that obesity is a disease?

This is long, but I don't know, it might be useful.

Its like a cancer that contributes to internal disorder + excess tissue growth. The pituitary can malfunction contributing to this disorder. One can blame it all on gluttony but that doesn't help explain two phenomenons. One, that some very young children are strangely obese when they shouldn't be. It seems that fat deposits on middle aged individuals are commonplace. Yet, there are many people of multiple ages that are rail thin no matter what they consume. I cannot resist thinking that this is a hormonal dysfunction rather than simple gluttony. I, for one have obese siblings. Yet, I was the skinny anomaly. Had to be a genetic chance. Oh, later on, I did gain a good 20 pounds while taking Prednisone (corticosteroid - creates a hypercortisol state - individual will show Cushings-like symptoms). That scared the daylights out of me thus beginning my personal study of this cursed physical condition. I have realized I am sensitive to sugar despite being a cross country runner in college. Like, what? Always wondered why pasta loading made me feel crappy. I don't eat it. If I do consume candy? My appetite/blood sugar go crazy for a few days of unstable misery. Its all quite interesting. I'm very cranky like that. Protein and fat is totally friendly. Causes no disruption. Blood sugar remains stable and I feel good.

You should all check out Cushing's syndrome or hypothyroidism. Both contribute to an obese appearance. Honestly its not just people being piggish. The modern American high-carb diet is contributes to metabolic syndrome. Hyperinsulinemia makes people store fat from even meager caloric intake (worse if those calories come from mainly refined carbohydrates). These people have to be ultra-careful with carbohydrates. Oh, and the fact that industrialized foods are high in sugar (carbohydrates). That explains why obesity seems almost normal. It is not.

Now, having said this, yes there are vile gluttons out there. Some are just plain stupid. Those people have no self-respect! Different individual imo. Most Americans think processed food is normal. No. Also, not everyone realizes, cares, or can afford an MRI to check their pituitary/thyroid/adrenal function.

Oh, for your liver's sake, don't toxify it with junk. That little organ deals with managing your glucose. The pancreas too, cannot tolerate excessive sugar. Your gallbladder too. Its not meant to be abused. Neither can your circulatory system take a poor diet (high blood pressure, hello?). It all leads to nasty inflammation that exposes you to diseases of civilization. Very preventable stuff. No, you cannot eat all that you want. Sorry, if that's what you want to hear. Oh, and there are normal weight people with obese physiological features internally. Yet, there are also bigger people who are weight stable but have no metabolic disorder whatsoever. You can tell by the fat distribution + blood tests.

I think I went all soapbox here. Ah well, its the beginning of the year. Happy start to resolutions for everyone out there. IMO, change your diet for internal health reasons. Your blood vessels + cells will thank you. Less inflammation is awesome.

is it normal that I agree that obesity is in fact a disease, not just a normative result of gluttony?

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  • WhoYouCallinPinhead

    I disagree with obesity being dubbed a "disease". It's really just a cycle of poor diets, lack of excericise, and the selling of processed food and fastfood. So if anything, Big Business is to blame.

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    • Ellenna

      I did a thumbs up instead of down then, consider yself thumbed down.

      More simplistic oversimplification, not gonna repeat myself, check out my reply above

      And I'll bet you're thin, right, or at least "normal"?

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  • zsdworknman

    If your body burns as many calories as it takes in you won't gain weight except for water weight and you may retain excess water depending on your sodium n electrolyte balance. From the fact you said your on a pension I would assume you're of advanced age so your body will not be as efficient in burning calories so if you want results increase your activity and change your eating habits no carbs after 2 no refined sugars at all protein for dinner. To be completely honest though it sounds like your just looking for an excuse to be fat and give up.

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    • Can you read? These are my observations. :-P I'm on a pension and of advanced age? Can you directly quote that from above? I take you are half asleep or something? LOL!

      Want results? Exercise? Cut Carbs? Duh. Totally works.

      No carbs after 2? There's no evidence that is necessary.

      Agree totally about "no refined sugars at all"

      Protein is utterly vital! Yes. Fat, too, very good for the body's hormone functions.

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      • zsdworknman

        Ellena made the comment about the pension assumed that was the poster commenting on responses. Besides that eating carbs in the evening and not burning those calories will lead to your body to store them as fat so I suggest being on the safe side unless you know that you will have an activity that would need you to have glucose available for your muscles to operate on. I look at all my meals as what I am going to get from them it's fuel n you don't put 85 octane in a Ferrari

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  • wistfulmaiden

    Too long I can't finish it.

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  • k10101010101010101010

    if people consumed natural and non processed foods, that have a normal leptin stimulation, obesity shouldn't even really exist. Consuming such things as HFCS is what destroys one's pancreas which causes diabetes and other health problems, not to mention obesity. You know how the original coca-cola had cocaine to get you addicted? well, the NEW coke, the one with the HFCS is purposely formulated (the HFCS) to make you not be satisfied (suppressed leptin) and just make you want more and more, while every calorie can not get burned, it can only go to fat storage. (Don't believe me? look that one up) That is a bad combination. People that get addicted to soda and fast food might understand how that worked in their weight gain.

    Moral of the story? AVOID FAST FOOD, PROCESSED FOOD AND ESPECIALLY HFCS!!!

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    • Ellenna

      It's just not that simple. I've only very rarely eaten fast or processed food, never anything with HFCS, dieticians have checked my diet and found it to be fine ... but guess what, I'm still fat.

      And guess what again, most of the time I don't care, I'm sick of worrying about it. I eat very healthily, don't smoke, hardly drink alcohol and exercise daily ...

      Fat phobics can get stuffed as far as I'm concerned, I was born fat (nearly 10 pounds) and I'll probably die fat, get used to it

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      • k10101010101010101010

        well, I used to be the same as you. I was always the fat kid, it sucked! What really worked for me is making all my food from scratch. Organic meat is a must. Gluten free is actually important too. Gluten, AKA wheat, is kinda like a gmo but in a different way. It makes it so you're never satisfied, keep eating. All bread unless it says gluten free has wheat/gluten. GLuten free is not a fad diet. People say carbs are bad, but it's not the carbs, it's the gluten! For me this has been vital. Brown rice is a carb but it won't make you fat. If you can get organic grass fed hamburger, that is what I eat before I lift weights and it has really made a big difference. BTW watch a movie called food inc to see why you only want organic meat.

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        • Ellenna

          Don't eat much meat anyway and organic meat is often WAY too expensive for someone on a pension. I already do make the vast majority of my food from scratch and always have.

          Isn't gluten different from wheat? Because surely it's in other grains too?

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          • k10101010101010101010

            well I'm not 100% sure of the technical aspect of wheat vs. gluten, i just know that wheat is bad and makes you fat. If you research a book called wheat belly, it's interesting the people that completely eliminated wheat from their diet and all the positive results from it including weight loss across the board!

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            • Ellenna

              Yeah yeah yeah heard it all before: do you think all these people selling books aren't in it for the money? Are all the people in the book the subject of a long term scientifically based research project covering a lot of people or is all this just unverified anecdotal "evidence" from a small number of people, complete with lots of words in capital letters and lots of exclamation marks?

              I don't believe ANY food is "bad", especially not a natural one like wheat which has been eaten by humans for tens of thousands of years. OK I know it's not naturally produced these days, but it's not that long since it was grown organically as a matter of course.

              I know lots of people who eat lots of wheat products and aren't fat and vice versa: you're just being fooled by the latest dietary craze.

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  • reminiscent

    I have to agree with you not everyone that is over weight are eating too much...and can have other underling problems like you have mentioned above.
    Some cant help their weight issues and some can....sometimes its the combination of the two.

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  • stankpussy

    fat people have small dicks

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    • Ellenna

      Yeah right, even the women

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