Is it normal that a mother who murdered her children receives sympathy?!

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I was watching a video telling a story about a women who had murdered 5 of her children, when her husband went to work, and was viewed as the victim because they say she has postpartum depression.
Which a women can get after going through childbirth.

But I think its crazy how this mother can receive sympathy after drowning 5 of her children! And they even want her released from the mental insitute?

What's your opinion on this? I can't be the only one who finds this crazy.

Lock her up in prison forever!	22
Do jail time like other murderers (10-20 yrs)	2
Let her go free with phycological help	4
Put her in a mental institute forever!	7
Put her in a mental institute with phycological help. (10-20 yrs)	14

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thegypsysailor

8 years ago

I don't care if they are depressed or not, anyone who can kill 5 human beings, children or adults, should not be allowed to walk free in society. Period.

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- MR.mr
  
  8 years ago
  
  I agree completely the reason why you did it(unless self defense of course) is irrelevant, she killed 5 fucking people, no one on earth could ever convince me, that society is better off with her roaming free.
  
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  - Anonymous Post Author
    
    8 years ago
    
    Yeah she'll probably kill again if you set her free.
    
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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  8 years ago
  
  Exactly!
  
  It still blows my mind how people can have sympathy for her!
  
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wigz

8 years ago

Insanity is a legitimate defense. State of mind and intent matters a lot.

I don't agree with keeping anyone locked up if they are not a threat anymore. That could be a tricky thing to determine sometimes though.

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Mulania

8 years ago

How can anyone know what it's like to have an illness where you have absolutely no control over your own actions?
What really irritates me are people with mental illness who compare their own experience with others and think that it's the exact same thing. Although in some cases people can relate to the problems they experience, to what degree can anyway say this woman was in a frame of mind to know that what she was doing was wrong?
If a person does not receive treatment for their illness, how are they ever going to feel better? It's so easy to say there's nothing wrong with someone when you can't see what's going on inside.
Her lifelong punishment is knowing that she killed her children and there was nothing she could've done to stop herself.
When it comes to her freedom I think it would be best she stay in a mental institute for a while so that she's no longer a danger to not only others but to herself.
This was not a person who was planning to run away with her lover. This was not a person angry with her children for making a mess in the house. This was not planned. She is a very sick person and instead of ridiculing the mentally ill, why not try a bit of understanding and helping. How about not turning a blind eye to some in who is crying for help?
That's all I have to say.

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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  8 years ago
  
  How am I riducalling the mentally ill?! I didn't make any jokes about them and I'm being serious when I state my opinion.
  
  And I respect your opinion, but do you really think someone can function happily in society after killing her 5 kids?
  And would you really want her released early if you were the father and your five kids were murdered?
  I feel that she should receive help, but also serve time in prision/mental institution for (women get an average of 10yrs for murder while men get 20yrs, and since she has a mental condition it would go down to 7yrs) so by law in Australia victoria she'll probably serve 35 years or less. (Just an estimate).
  
  I've learned during volunteer work with mental health students and also having a brother with severe depression. You can't cure it and meds just suppress it, after a while your liver and kidneys will fail from all the anti depressants.
  All you can do is keep pushing forward till your life naturally ends, it's the sad truth.
  
  And those people who have said they have been cured of it, were cases that weren't that servere.
  
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[Old Memory]

8 years ago

I don't think psychiatric problems are an exceptible excuse for committing any crime. Ive had my own mental health problems and take responsibility for my own actions regardless of how I felt at the time. Everyone else should be expected to as well.

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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  8 years ago
  
  Yeah I work with the mentally unstable as volunteer work at my uni, but this women I would call her mentally unstable and a murder on top of that.
  
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- Ellenna
  
  8 years ago
  
  Some psychiatric problems don't result in people being unable to control their actions and some do.
  
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Ellenna

8 years ago

You are an ignorant lot: if she had post partum psychosis it's caused by a hormonal inbalance following childbirth and is subsequently curable. It's not a lifelong mental illness.

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- PlebolaVirus
  
  8 years ago
  
  You are ignorant for wanting a disgusting, murderous abomination to continue to pollute society. I don't care who you are, if you kill an innocent child, even the most gruesome punishment imaginable is not enough for you.
  
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  - yourdeepestshame8
    
    8 years ago
    
    I understand your sentiment. Children are among the most vulnerable people in society. When we see something like the Andrea Yates incident, our knee-jerk reaction is "make that monster pay and put an end to her existence". We're often so disgusted, by incidents like this, that we have difficulty seeing the perpetrator as human. But everyone's a person. Through dehumanization, you sink deeper into the abyss of immorality. You're able to justify subjecting that person, or group of people, to an endless well of cruelty. It's a way of rationalizing evil--of throwing your conscience to the wayside. We've seen it time and time again throughout history, and we still see it today. Andrea Yates likely had this mindset when she killed her 5 children, she stopped seeing them as people. I know none of this will change your understanding of what justice is, you don't have a terribly nuanced or sophisticated view of the world, but I'm responding anyway--think of it as a counterbalance to your bullshit.
    
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    - PlebolaVirus
      
      8 years ago
      
      It's people like you, with your over-emotional mindset and ignorance, that are slowly destroying humanity.
      
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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  8 years ago
  
  I know but she killed her kids.
  You think she should be let go?
  She'll never get over the fact that she killed 5 of her kids anyway if you do cure her, she'll still have major depression.
  
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IMissMary

8 years ago

Its the husbands fault.

She was the victim

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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  8 years ago
  
  How is it the husbands fault?!
  
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  - IMissMary
    
    8 years ago
    
    He is a man for one.
    Women are victims of men.
    He must have abused her or something to make her harm her children.
    Women can never be responsible for their actions, its a rule of law and of nature.
    
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    - [Old Memory]
      
      8 years ago
      
      You sure have some strange opinions.
      
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    - Anonymous Post Author
      
      8 years ago
      
      So if you had a son you're going to tell him that?
      And there was no abuse, the doctors think she has a mental illness since it occurred after her pregnancy.
      
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      - IMissMary
        
        8 years ago
        
        Thats just the way it is....women do not have to be responsible for their actions. They blame men and the courts support the blame. Women generally take the role of the victim.
        
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        8 years ago
        
        And most kids are murdered by their mothers.
        Guess the court doesn't care enough to take action on the women who should be trailled but get off Scott free.
        
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ApatheticRoy

8 years ago

This feels a lot like Shutter Island. Anyways I'd probably go to her for tips on effectively drowning kids.

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i.am.a.pervert

8 years ago

Only men can be punished for a woman's crimes. It's the unwritten law of our world. If the women are perverts, it's never their fault. This whole phenomenon is perverted.

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- Ellenna
  
  8 years ago
  
  Oh what absolute garbage: if the woman referred to was convicted then that proves you wrong, doesn't it?
  
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  - i.am.a.pervert
    
    8 years ago
    
    No. She will only serve a few years and be released.
    
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    - Ellenna
      
      8 years ago
      
      You don't know that for sure, you're only guessing
      
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      - Anonymous Post Author
        
        8 years ago
        
        You're wrong, women are let off easily in court.
        
        "In the Victorian County and Supreme Courts, overall women are less likely to be sentenced to a term of
        imprisonment and, when they are, women receive shorter average total effective terms. For most offences
        women are more likely to be sentenced to a wholly suspended sentence or a community-based order, both
        of which are served in the community rather than in custody."
        
        Search this for proof: Gender Differences in Sentencing Outcomes - The Sentencing Advisory ... (PDF)
        
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        Anonymous Post Author
        
        8 years ago
        
        Or click this link: (get rid of the <>)
        
        <https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.sentencingcouncil.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/publication-documents/Gender%2520Differences%2520in%2520Sentencing%2520Outcomes.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiL8Jvywr3LAhVmFqYKHWoWBXkQFggfMAE&usg=AFQjCNE0jSxPbBD8Y85Jqi2x_7RYW2xf3w&sig2=UXTahAA_2KLFAJJt18nE1w>
        
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        Anonymous Post Author
        
        8 years ago
        
        Or click this link.
        
        https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.sentencingcouncil.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/publication-documents/Gender%2520Differences%2520in%2520Sentencing%2520Outcomes.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiL8Jvywr3LAhVmFqYKHWoWBXkQFggfMAE&usg=AFQjCNE0jSxPbBD8Y85Jqi2x_7RYW2xf3w&sig2=UXTahAA_2KLFAJJt18nE1w
        
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      - Anonymous Post Author
        
        8 years ago
        
        You're wrong, women are let off easily in court.
        
        "In the Victorian County and Supreme Courts, overall women are less likely to be sentenced to a term of
        imprisonment and, when they are, women receive shorter average total effective terms. For most offences
        women are more likely to be sentenced to a wholly suspended sentence or a community-based order, both
        of which are served in the community rather than in custody."
        
        https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.sentencingcouncil.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/publication-documents/Gender%2520Differences%2520in%2520Sentencing%2520Outcomes.pdf&ved=0ahUKEwiL8Jvywr3LAhVmFqYKHWoWBXkQFggfMAE&usg=AFQjCNE0jSxPbBD8Y85Jqi2x_7RYW2xf3w&sig2=UXTahAA_2KLFAJJt18nE1w
        
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      - Anonymous Post Author
        
        8 years ago
        
        Its true its written in our law down in Victoria.
        
        Crtl + search: women are less likely to be sentenced to a term of imprisonment.
        
        https://www.sentencingcouncil.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/publication-documents/Homicide%20in%20Victoria%20Offenders%20Victims%20and%20Sentencing.pdf
        
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        Ellenna
        
        8 years ago
        
        I don't have time right now to read all that, but thanks for sending it. I do remember this report and I also remember strong criticism from (I think?) community legal centres, including them pointing out that women generally commit far less violent crimes than men and are much less likely to be recidivist offenders.
        
        In any event, whatever the report says it is NOT correct that its "written in our law down in Victoria" that any group is treated differently than others in the judicial system just because of their membership in that group. In practice there probably are differences in sentencing, just as Aboriginal people in some parts of the country receive much more severe sentences than non-Aboriginal people for the same offences, but it's not actually "written in our law".
        
        If you're going to comment on the legal system your language needs to be much more precise and accurate. I'll read the report when I have time
        
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- Anonymous Post Author
  
  8 years ago
  
  Yep double standards.
  
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