Is it normal people blame media when 'young people' act violent?

It's been a question I've had for a long while. Why is it that people, generally older adults, blame violent media for younger people? I've watched Punisher, Rambo, RoboCop, Delta Force, and so on, and I've never commited violent acts mimicking those films. I know a large group of people who enjoyed those same films I did, and they haven't slaughtered anyone. Why is it that we like some of the same things, and there are those few people who massacre and those who just say, "I enjoyed that film!"?

They truly believe it's harmful 8
Those in authority don't want to accept responsiblity 19
They don't have their facts straight 17
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  • shade_ilmaendu

    To find someone else to blame, definitely. The human race has always been violent, we've killed and maimed for thousands of years, much longer than media has existed. We've just found more effective ways of killing.

    If there were no violent films, shows or games people would still be doing the same thing. But blaming the things kids watch absolves the blame, from them and from the parents. It is easier to point fingers than accept the true facts of the matter, because people are afraid of their own nature.

    Know what Marilyn Manson said when he was interviewed after being blamed for the Columbine tragedy?

    They asked him what he would say to those kids if he could.

    He said he wouldn't say a word, he would just listen, because that's what no one ever did.

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  • BundleLoop

    In Grand thref auto I also drive over every hooker I see but I would not do that In real life they scare me :O

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  • FocoUS

    Is this about Aurora? Well here's one explanation that I always loved from a certain film critic.

    "The day after Columbine, I was interviewed for the Tom Brokaw news program. The reporter had been assigned a theory and was seeking sound bites to support it. “Wouldn’t you say,” she asked, “that killings like this are influenced by violent movies?” No, I said, I wouldn’t say that. “But what about Basketball Diaries?” she asked. “Doesn’t that have a scene of a boy walking into a school with a machine gun?” The obscure 1995 Leonardo Di Caprio movie did indeed have a brief fantasy scene of that nature, I said, but the movie failed at the box office (it grossed only $2.5 million), and it’s unlikely the Columbine killers saw it. The reporter looked disappointed, so I offered her my theory. “Events like this,” I said, “if they are influenced by anything, are influenced by news programs like your own. When an unbalanced kid walks into a school and starts shooting, it becomes a major media event. Cable news drops ordinary programming and goes around the clock with it. The story is assigned a logo and a theme song; these two kids were packaged as the Trench Coat Mafia. The message is clear to other disturbed kids around the country: If I shoot up my school, I can be famous. The TV will talk about nothing else but me. Experts will try to figure out what I was thinking. The kids and teachers at school will see they shouldn’t have messed with me. I’ll go out in a blaze of glory.”
    In short, I said, events like Columbine are influenced far less by violent movies than by CNN, the NBC Nightly News and all the other news media, who glorify the killers in the guise of “explaining” them. I commended the policy at the Sun-Times, where our editor said the paper would no longer feature school killings on Page 1. The reporter thanked me and turned off the camera. Of course the interview was never used. They found plenty of talking heads to condemn violent movies, and everybody was happy."
    - Roger Ebert

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  • Movies have nothing to do with it. A person who wants to kill will kill, and it can't be stopped.

    It's like that "joker" killer in the states. He wasn't made to do that shit because of a batman film, he made a very conscious decision to amass alot of money and then purchase weapons and a bullet proof vest before shooting up that cinema. He isn't crazy because of films, he's not crazy at all, just faking.

    People like this existed before violent film and computer games did, so therefore it can't be the cause. Jack the ripper didn't play computer games now did he?

    It's a case of fantasy through isolation most times. And other times it's simply a "bad seed", someone born with a tendancy towards it.

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    • sleepycomet

      "Just faking" so one would think, the truth is we'll never known what drove a Ph.D candidate to fire assault weapons into a crowd of people.
      We're lucky he was a terrible shot and only got 12 kills with an AR-15, but my guess is he wasn't fully committed and didn't anticipate the killing so didn't try very hard, because I've handled many-a ar15 and they do not miss if you don't want them to, and any average idiot can hit an apple off a pole with it from 500 feet away.

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      • Faking insanity i mean, in the legal sense. You know what the legal definition is don't you?

        He did it for Attention, very few mass murderers give themselves up. Almost every one of them through history has killed themselves or been gunned down. He joins the rare ranks of those who didn't, and those people turned out to be Attention seekers who didn't want to die. He fits the bill of an Attention seeker almost perfectly, he dyed his hair in advance of the shooting and called himself "the joker" afterwards for a very obvious reason.

        And as for the firearm issue you are forgetting that he shot way more than 12, only 12 happened to die. You see people quite often survive being shot, even multiple times.

        He was also shooting into nothing but a cloud of tear gas, not an apple on a pole, just into "fog" at nothing while people laid on the ground avoiding most of the fire.

        Columbine is a good example, TWO PEOPLE armed with automatic weapons only killed twelve.

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  • A man's action are often an amalgamation of reasons rather than any one thing. To say social media is the cause of it or that it had no influence at all are both wrong.

    But it would taste a lie to say that there wouldn't be less crime in society if people weren't bombarded with violence 24/7.

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  • KeddersPrincess

    I think it depends on the person. I watch tons of violent films and I haven't hurt anyone, but for other people, it may not have that same effect. Some people just shouldn't watch certain movies.

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  • dom180

    I think in some cases it does have a role. Is it ever the only role? No. Does it have as much of a role as a lot of people say? Probably not. Is it the most important role? Well that depends entirely on the situation because anyone who acts violently will have different reasons for it.

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  • NotFloydzie

    I don't believe it's harmful. It depends on the child and how sensitive they are to these influences, although until a certain age it depends on their parents. I watched a lot of violent films when I was younger and I haven't killed nor slaughter anyone (yet). But, I was told that what I was watching wasn't real and only an act.

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    • Amistrangeornuts

      Well put and I couldn't agree more.

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  • Many studies have been done about violent media exposure in children. There is a proven correlation between violent children and viewing violent media. It is not a good idea to expose children to violent media otherwise they could grow up believing violence is a viable solution to their problems.

    Sure, there are other factors that make monsters out of children, but you specified media. A lot of people and parents are not aware of the consequences or are not educated enough to be exposed to the truths about child development. Therefore, many children are exposed to graphic violence in the media that shows very little in the way of realistic consequences. Essentially, it's up to the parent to teach the child the difference, but not all parents do.

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    • EbonyDark'nessDementiaRavenWay

      They're not fucking damaged and I didn't ask for any manipulated studies. So why don't you just shut up and let people do what people do? Oh, and the media would show more consequences if it weren't for the soccermoms pitching a fit if blood is shown.

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    • Amistrangeornuts

      I'm not just refering to the age where it's hard for them to differenciate between Fantasy and Reality, I'm also refering to events like the Aurora theater shooting and Columbine Massacre where they're young adult age.

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      • What I meant was those damaged kids grow up and do dumb violent things when they become a young adult age. Sorry to be so confusing.

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        • Amistrangeornuts

          No need to be sorry, and that you for clarifying

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  • Finding_Peace_In_A_Mad_World

    As I always say, violent video games/music/movies are the symptom, not the cause. The violence in this kind of entertainment gives violent people a place to direct their rage- but something else caused that rage in the first place. Eventually simply fantasizing about violence won't be enough, so they end up turning their fantasies into reality.

    Because of this, people tend to assume that it's the violence in those films that create violent people. When in reality, it is just that most violent people are attracted to violent media.

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    • nAt2017

      Agreed, you said it all.

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      • Finding_Peace_In_A_Mad_World

        I always knew you were smart :P

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  • dappled

    The problem is, you can't prove this by just quoting your own experience or that of a few people you know. My great grandfather smoked from a very early age and lived to be 96. That doesn't mean everyone should smoke.

    You've got to look at wider statistics. If very many who commit a murder also like violent films, then it does indeed prove there's a link. However, the mistake people often make is to see the link in only one direction. They say "(S)he became a murderer because of those violent films". I think it's probably more pertinent to say "(S)he likes violent films because (s)he is a violent person who is of the tiny subset who is, or will become, a murderer".

    It's very easy to blame the film and I agree with you that this is often unfair.

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    • shade_ilmaendu

      Key phrase of my adolescent development class. Correlation is not causation. :P

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      • dappled

        Absolutely! You and I are both purple but that doesn't mean either of us is the cause of anyone else becoming purple. For like, a day, or... something.

        okay, bad example. :P

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        • shade_ilmaendu

          XD Oh you.

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  • 1000yrVampireKing

    Yes people tend to blame others. No one wants to be the bad guy.

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