Is it normal i'll fight till i win

Literally some topics and comments piss me off so much that I feel immense anger.

For the life of God I will not back down until I

A) Get my point through that persons thick head or

B) They give up and I have last word and last say on the matter

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  • Boojum

    Why is it so important to you that others acknowledge that you're right? That's often a sign of insecurity.

    Some things are worth getting angry about, but the world is full of fools, and lots of perfectly decent people believe the most ridiculous shit. If you go through life trying to bludgeon people in to accepting your point of view, you're going to end up pretty lonely.

    Choose your battles carefully. Some aren't worth fighting, and some are unwinnable.

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    • Ellenna

      You are just so sensible and down to earth!

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      • GetLostPlease

        Thank you :)

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    • I'm not insecure, just get sick of petty and immature comments that are 99% of the time incorrect.

      If they jump on my back on a matter, I'll definitely stand my ground

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      • McBean

        I'm sensing a contradiction. You are sick of petty immature comments, yet you are participating here at IIN where most comments are petty and immature. Why don't you be a big boy and study medicine, law, or nuclear physics? Wouldn't that be a better choice? Please share your thoughts.

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        • GetLostPlease

          OP has a point

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        • Doesn't matter about contradiction. Call it what you please but it's just another attempt to try take a dig.

          It's your view point. That's incorrect.
          I am sick of immature, petty comments which is why I'll fight one who throws garbage of such out of their mouth.
          I won't let one think they're in the right when they're not so that's my point

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          • McBean

            Yes, we understand your point, but most idiots can be avoided. Wouldn't you make more progress in the world if you did not encounter large numbers of idiots who slow you down by requiring you to explain to them why they are dumb. Consider for example, being accepted to Harvard University. Most of the professors are smart guys. You might still have to straighten out one or two professors, but you would have more time for research and publication activities.

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  • RoseIsabella

    How do you know people have given up? Maybe they've just become tired of talking to you? Maybe they haven't given up, but instead are just ignoring you?

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    • Pumpurrnickel

      I'm not the original poster. But all of those still count as giving up. Giving up is defined as to cease making an effort.

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      • Ellenna

        But ceasing to make an effort doesn't have to mean giving up: I used to be much more argumentative than I am now. I still have strong opinions about many issues, but I've decided now I'm old I don't have enough life left to waste my time arguing with people who are never going to change their minds. Anyway, letting myself get angry about things I can't change is very bad for my blood pressure and my general stress levels.

        I still love a good thoughtful civilised debate but only in the spirit of exploration and sometimes (VERY occasionally) I even change my mind after listening to others.

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        • Pumpurrnickel

          Okay. Understandable. But you are still giving up by definition, whenever you choose to stop arguing. No matter the reason, however good of a reason it is. I didn't say giving up means admitting defeat.

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          • GetLostPlease

            Agreed however giving up does mean defeat.

            They have nothing more to say thus they lose the battle

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            • Ellenna

              Well you can believe that if it makes you feel better, but removing oneself from pointless argument with stubborn arrogant people isn't giving up, it's only deciding to stop wasting time & energy. Life's just too short for that bullshit

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      • Well said

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    • Dustyair

      Bingo :)

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    • Boojum

      LOL

      Excellent points. I never argue with opinionated bores. I also tend to assume that they're ranting on because, deep down, they're not totally sure they're right, and they're desperate for someone else to tell them they are.

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      • Ellenna

        Do you mean OP? You could well be right!

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      • Definitely not.

        If someone is in the wrong I'll definitely make them aware and fight them till they give up

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        • nikkiclaire

          The problem is that there are no universal truths, so you are basically tilting at windmills the majority of the time, if you take that stance.

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          • GetLostPlease

            Who cares? There are a lot of loosers out there.

            If op wants to make their point then so be it.
            At least op fights for what they believe in

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  • It's normal, but you sound like an ass.

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  • I do the same thing.

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  • The last word doesn't mean you actually changed people's minds. You just made them give up, finding that it's useless and unproductive to talk to you in this manner. It is not necessarily abnormal to talk like that, but not helpful in any ways. It just pisses people off and your actual win is 0. People abandon the discussion, get mad and nothing changed. It's your decision but it doesn't offer you anything apart from the mental comfort given by the illusion that you won something. Changing people is hard, and being direct won't work, just as it doesn't work with changing your mind as well.

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    • GetLostPlease

      As a matter of fact it does because it shows the other has given it up which makes them look like a fool,weak and that they have no ammunition

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      • Making them look like fools doesn't mean they gave up their opinions. Again, it means that everyone has the illusion that they lost, but they'll still think in the same way, and will even believe stronger in their own point of view, feeling attacked by everyone. A successful change must come smoothly. I've never changed my mind in a fight, but I was convinced by rational people who show me that they have no interest in making me loo klike a fool, but purely showing me how the reality is, which is a strong sign of impartiality and wiseness.

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      • Ellenna

        Not necessarily: maybe they're like me and don't want to waste their time & energy arguing with someone who's not going to change his/her mind about anything.

        I'm not a fool or weak and I often have "ammunition" (your military allusions are a worry!) I see no point in producing with some people. Life's just too short.

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        • GetLostPlease

          My military allusions are a worry?

          Why be so fussy over the way I worded an observation

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        • GetLostPlease

          Well that is simply your opinion but in the eyes of stubborn bulls, it's a sure sign of weakness

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          • Ellenna

            I don't have anything to do with stubborn bulls (or stubborn cows either, for that matter), because they're boring boring boring ..........

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            • That is very true.

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    • I beg to disagree.

      People that give up actually have lost the battle as the other pursues to try prove their point while the other just looks like they have nothing worthy left to say, hence no more effort is given.
      Makes them look weak

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      • Ellenna

        Refusing to engage in pointless argument isn't giving up, it's preserving one's sanity and time and energy

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  • LOLFanProductions

    By always wanting to be right drives people away from you. Ask yourself "Would I rather state if I'm right, or drop the argument for this person?" This question should be asked to oneself because it will teach you to pick and choose your fights. Not only that, but by stopping your argument it will make you a more mature, open minded person. The saying goes " not one answer is always right." Yes, you heard me right. Not one perspective is always correct. That's what makes us unique. Also, no one wants to be around someone who's forcing their opinion into others skulls. If that were the case, no one would have friends for long, and this world would be bland and boring.

    Anyways, I seriously hope you take this advice because your future may depend on it.

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  • shuggy-chan

    So is water wet or not?

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  • Electra

    Are you a knight?

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  • Ellenna

    Is that you donald? Get your finger off that nuclear button before you kill us all

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  • GetLostPlease

    Good on you! Stick up for what you believe in

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  • It’s “for the love of God” or “for the life of me”, I get your point tho so no need to get all enraged.

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  • GeordieGent

    I do the same I must admit. Especially if someone is being a jerk and tries to turn it back on me.

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