I feel like as a man, i'm still expected to do a lot.

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Now my title is already going to piss people off. I'm not lazy and I'm not saying women aren't expected to do things. I just don't know how to phrase it perfectly.

Anyway, to put it simply I feel like it's no longer cool to expect women to do anything or act a cirrain way. As a man I have no right to dictate what a woman can and can't do nor what she should be doing. However, I continually hear all sorts of commentary on what makes a man. I largely hear it from women too. Being strong or getting laid a lot doesn't make a man. At the same time, being submissive and/or not being protective cirtainly doesn't do it either. Those aren't things I believe make a man by the way just things I've heard, and I've heard much more.
My point is that it seems like many people are still comfortable assigning men a traditional role where it has fallen out of fashion to do so with women. Keep in mind im in my 20's. I dont have the world figured out but in my age group, its really acceptable for a woman to be any kind of way but I still feel like it's popular and accepted to judge the guys on thier manliness. If I said a girl wasn't womanly enough there would be an uproar, there's no way anyone would consider me right no matter how I defined womanly. Evenif I defined it as an aggresive driven self motivated girl, people would be racing to defend traditional "girliness". Why is manliness still under fire?

THIS IS NOT A POOR MEN POST.
Please don't get angry and tell me about my privalege.

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  • seekelp
    9 years ago | pl

    Here's the thing, guy. Everyone thinks that "society" tells them one thing, but the truth is that "society" is a complex amorphous mass spewing hundreds of contradictory statements. Don't feel like you have to prove yourself to others, you've got to succeed on your own terms. This doesn't mean you should be a lazy piece of shit- interact with people on an individual to individual basis, not in some weird collective assumption way.

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    • NeuroNeptunian
      9 years ago

      This 100%

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    • Splithead
      9 years ago

      Thanks. This works.... I like this.

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    • disthing
      9 years ago

      Perfect answer.

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  • Nokiot9
    9 years ago

    I was just complaining about this a couple weeks ago. Gender rolls in modern society. My gf won't clean my apartment or do my laundry, but 100% expects me to take her out and pay for it all! she expects me to do all the 'man' stuff like hanging pictures, fixing the sink, lighting the pilot light, dealing with the circuit breaker, driving her around and picking her up. Lol I got so angry yesterday when I saw this feminist on YT whining about how women still have it SOOO much more difficult than men... Ugh...

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    • Gallieon
      9 years ago

      THIS. Someone give this guy a cookie. And not just any cookie, no.....

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  • unionclocks
    9 years ago

    I think it's totally normal to think this, you've infact pointed out something that Gender Equality doesn't look into as much. There is such a thing as being sexist against men, and this is one of the ways it happens. Women are now expected to get masculine jobs to fight the power (if you know what i mean) and show they can be capabale too, but there's no drive for men to do femenime things, and i think this is what you're getting at. Men still have the expectation to be manly, women can be either way.

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    • Splithead
      9 years ago

      That is what I was thinking... alrhough I feel like the gender equality movement does get that, the feminist movement, which has the goal of gender equality studders here a bit.

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  • Gallieon
    9 years ago

    I've genuinely never gotten it either. A guy's worth is measured by so many things; how thick your wallet is, the fights you've won, the car you drive, Job you have, your entourage, where you live, how many girls you've laid, the size of your dick.. fucking etc.

    Thing is we take it like men. We don't take it to the internet crying WAAAAH!!! SHE CALLED MY DICK SMALL!!!

    Women used to be expected to stay home with the kids, cook dinner, tidy the house, (they will have no problem with shopping though, still entirely on them), do laundry...

    Now you risk being dumped at the mere mention of chores. It seems a guy has to be perfectly capable of doing both and if he's not, she walks. She's not held by any standard what so ever. It's what it is.

    Women get to lie in bed and do *nothing* but cum. After wards she'll decide whether the sex was worth it. She'll go out with skirts so short, you're thanking god she's wearing underwear because all hell breaks loose when you question her fashion statement.
    Has anyone ever pushed a bill to the girl on the first date? I wanna know what happens there but personally wouldn't do it myself. Shit storm in public.. not my thing. Let me know how it went please.

    Alright bitches! Down-vote me!

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    • Nokiot9
      9 years ago

      I've asked women to split the check on the fist date and had girls buy ME drinks Lol. Both times it went alright. Asserting ur worth can go a long way if u do it right.

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      • Nokiot9
        9 years ago

        You say "I've had a great night so far," or some nonsense, then "but this IS our first date. You want to split the bill?" She looked at me odd, then smiled and said OK. And later we ended up at her place, etc. Then the time I asked this girl I just met "you pay for the drinks, I'll get the next round" and as long as you really buy the next round, u don't have to buy a drink as a pick up line. Because every one and their brother asks women "derrrrr. Can I buy u a drink" not "you wanna buy me a drink-"

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    • Nokiot9
      9 years ago

      A mans worth is in his conviction and ethics. I don't care how big ur dick is or how many girlfriends u have, if u don't man up to the one you just knocked up... I'm sure I can scrape more substance off the bottom of my shoe right now, than u have in ur entire being. GAG

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  • NeuroNeptunian
    9 years ago

    Seekelp hit the nail on the head. Expectations are different for women as well, depending on who you ask. Go to a college and most of the women there will probably tell you that being strong, independent and career driven is what makes a woman. Go to a conservative Christian church and they may tell you that running a household, having a family and supporting one's husband is what makes a woman.

    Likewise, you go to same said school and most people will tell you that real men are strong and accept their weaknesses but also have mild temperaments yet are assertive etc etc they will describe the Vetruvian man of male personas whereas a blue collar community might say that a real man is a man who can head a household and provide for his family.

    All depends on who you listen to so find some shitheads you agree with and be like the rest of us conformists already.

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