I'd like to see an imam gunned down and islamic friday service dispersed

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While I consciously object and oppose avengful violence and I deem Charlie Hebdo's caricatures a disgrace and perversion of the idea of free speech... The last particularly heinous triple murder in Nice, the portraits of the victims, the pain and sadness in the eyes of French people and the ugly bullying and abuse their nation and country are subjected to by arrogant bloodthirsty Muslim savages..

I'm not a Frenchman, neither Catholic and do not even identify as Christian. And while I consciously sign up under Mahatma Gandhi's quote 'An eye for an eye will only make the whole world blind'.. My heart speaks else. What I feel is that Muslims are primitive and cruel ppl who understand only the language of violence. Since it's their creed and fundament. And while we shall not reduce our moral character to their inhumane, barbaric level and shall never strike first..

We've had too much. We have stood too long being butchered, abused and persecuted for being 'infidels'. The biggest infidels are the followers of a pedophilian, murderous false prophet who walk his ways of violence and cruelty and hatred. We have put up too long with their oppression and have to fight back.

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  • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk
    3 years ago | pl

    youll prolly end up shootin the one outta thirty thats a cool reasonable person

    and the cycle continues

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  • [Old Memory]
    3 years ago

    One of the more difficult things to assess in life is when it is appropriate to take corrective action on a person causing you problems

    Too soon and you may not have all the information to do so objectively good

    Take too long and you could find yourself in a metaphorically deep hole

    My state motto is Esse Quam Videri, to be rather than to seem

    It was inspired by a conversation between Julius Caesar and a general, a traitor, and the citizens

    Caesar wanted to seem like a good ruler and said to let the traitor go

    The General wanted to be a good leader and said let's kill him

    I may have gotten the story wrong a little, but I think of the motto often

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    • nopurpose
      3 years ago

      And what did the people say?

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      • [Old Memory]
        3 years ago

        I think in the full story they represent the opinions one would expect a society to have on how a traitor should be handled

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        • nopurpose
          3 years ago

          I hoped there would have been a third opinion and an actual source of wisdom..

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          • [Old Memory]
            3 years ago

            Um, there's a lot to consider in that quote?

            The flaw in one's own logic to do something for how it makes them seem, and recognizing it in others, and the value of being sincere?

            Do you not see these things, or their worth?

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            • nopurpose
              3 years ago

              Not really. This are some abstract phylosophical constructions which don't have practical use. It does not provide sustainable answer to the matter here. It provides two extremes that are both typically inacceptable and so the civilized world has denounced them and found a middle ground for the individual offender - imprisonment. But that can't be applied to a large group of ppl,sharing a violent ideology that's on top of all a religion with it's roots so deep and strong ot can't be eradicated. And no western or any country leader would dare do that, neither can they expel millions of citizens birth. So we can expect to read every week in the news about another bloody attack

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  • randypete
    3 years ago

    everywhere there are Muslims there is trouble they are bad news

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  • Jamie_Sulky
    3 years ago

    I understand the frustration that you have. of course in the west, muslim people are looked at in a different light due to the terrorism that they caused. And in no way is that excusable.

    However, as someone who has lived in the east before, I have to say theres no such thing as "(blank) group of people are (evil/good)". I have some incredible muslim friends that I cherish till this day. None of them are extremist, none of them are violent, and none deserve to be hurt.

    You have to understand that when you say the word muslim behind that word is 1.8 billion people. And among those 1.8 billion people are friends and families of somebody else. hate terrorism, not an entire group of people. I don't hate every christian because of the KKK, or because of its blatant homophobia.

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    • nopurpose
      3 years ago

      No, it's not 1,8 billion. That's a fallacious calculation that just sums up the population of traditionally Muslim countries. A lot of whom are living under oppression by this violent ideology. Just to remind you, shariah and their beloved prophet in the hadis prescribe death penalty (i.e. murder) for a person who leaves Islam. Even if the particular country's laws don't provide this, there's a high chance anyone who openly rejects Islam will fall harvest at the knives of hardliners or their own family in so called honor-killing, or at least face public outcry if the case reaches the media and severe subsequent discrimination. So a lot of ppl who had the bad luck to be born there choose to pretend being Muslim to spare themselves the persecution while they reject Islamic violence and cruelty in their hearts. The perspna you mention are likely such cases. They will either be non-practicing if they can afford such luxury or go to mosques bcs of peer pressure, not by conviction. It's like any dictatorship - everyone knows the regime is crap yet no one dares to say it. One thing is for sure - they were not 'good Muslims' given that a line from the Quran literally tell believers 'to not take infidels for friends'. Obviously they breached one of the commandments to befriend you in the first place.
      By the way, these pathetic statistics that you cite do the same about other religions. They will count me as a Cristian bcs I live in historically Christian country. How am I Christian if I have not set foot in a church for years, and when I've done it's been only to accompany relatives (I think two occasions for the last 15 years) and a friend who was afraid his mom was dying - one occasion for my entire life. How am I a Christian if I don't participate in any religious community or ceremonies and don't even identify as one??

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      • Jamie_Sulky
        3 years ago

        So you only mean muslim extremists? because in that case a lot of christians don't believe everything in the old testement nor follow all the teachings, including the incredibly problematic ones. So yes, maybe my 1.8 billion stat was wrong but that still doesn't change my argument. Muslims aren't all these intensley extreme, conservative and violent people. that would be the same as me assuming all christians are racist and homophobic. To say you'd like to see islamic people gunned down and that they are cruel is just wrong. Are there cruel and violent muslims? yes. But thats not all of them. I dislike religion, in general a lot of religion has outdated and downright fucked up rules and teachings, but I do not wish death upon someone merely for being a follower of those religion.

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  • RoseIsabella
    3 years ago

    Yes.

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  • a-curious-bunny
    3 years ago

    There's a few Muslims at my job. Some irritate me others I enjoy the company of mostly. They are just people.

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    • nopurpose
      3 years ago

      Right. Ppl who can reasonably be expected to shed innocent blood in tribute to their violent ideology. The person who butchered a Catholic servant, a mother of three and an elderly woman praying was just a guy before he went to commit a massacre in the name of the religion of cruelty.

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