I believe that everything in this world is conjured in our minds

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We've created this world, what rules and laws it governs, the Earth and the universe, EVERYTHING we sense are actually stored in what we believe are our minds (not necessarily our brains) in the consciousness we have (or maybe "soul"). We are all different consciousness who perceive the same world, synchronized all the way down to the smallest unit. We do not discover new things, we just come across something our lifetime saw as new but in truth, we just recalled a bit of information we had once kept stored in secret in our consciousness' powerful mind.

With that, perhaps the blue you're seeing is not the same blue I'm seeing, yet we all interpret it the same way, as we all say it's blue. The world is but an illusion we've conjured in our collective minds.

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  • Rocket_9
    12 years ago

    You saw The Matrix one too many times, lol.

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  • Jen118584
    14 years ago

    This makes no sense. Seriously, nothing you said makes sense and there is absolutely no reason for you to believe these things. You're acknowledging that six billion people are all of a different consciousness and all perceive the same things but then asserting that those things don't actually exist. For what reason? That is just stupid. I mean I appreciate that people have different beliefs but these are just the ramblings of an immature mind trying to sound deep and existential.

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    • Shimmers
      9 years ago

      You saved my life, this person just scared the living shxt outta me for a minute!

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    • Coralia
      14 years ago

      I would hate to be you, and think of the world the way that you do. Your mind is so small. You really don't have any idea of what this world is about and why we are "here".

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    • nonononormal
      14 years ago

      I don't know why what I believe is "immature" Is it because I typed the word "EVERYTHING" in all caps, giving an assumption that I am forcing my belief down everyone's thraots? I do take a bit of offense from that, although I could understand that it is hard to make sense out of this, as it also boggles me whenever I think of it being possible. I mean why shouldn't I believe in the possibility? I never said what we perceive doesn't exist, it's just that our minds created the existence of everything. My friends and I had discussed the possibility in one of our coffee talks, and we've had interesting insights in this.

      Everyone has different beliefs, but no matter what we think, it's because of our shared collective minds that we all universally interpret a ball as a ball, and the house as a house. When we sleep, are we even aware of who we are or the world around us unless we dream?

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      • Jen118584
        14 years ago

        It's immature because it's outlandish to believe that everything in the world is an "illusion" or a figment in the imaginations of the collective humanity. I mean, wtf is even the point in asserting something like that? Unless you're seriously delusional enough to believe it, you're just creating some off-the-wall beliefs in some angsty attempt to deviate from what you're expected to believe...which is that everything is exactly as it appears for a scientific reason.

        I don't mean to be harsh but I just feel like this is something I probably pondered when I was like 17 and stoned, and then made fun of myself for later.

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        • nonononormal
          14 years ago

          It also used to be delusional and outlandish to say that the world is round back in the day, wasn't it? :P But as for this, it can't be proven right... or wrong, just like most other philosophies.

          Honestly, it's just what I believe is possible, although not concrete enough to say that it's a definite truth (as for definite truth... that's another different case), call me immature, delusional or whatever, not that whether I believe in this or not changes how I live my life, as it's both just an intriguing and scary thought.

          The thing is, there are so many crazy things in this world that's real that I tend to think that a lot of things are possible, even something as "outlandish" as this :P There's no real harm thinking about the possibility of this now, would it?

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          • PoisonFlowers
            14 years ago

            Hey, you still didn't explain yourself (see my first post). You know, about the shared collective minds jazzzz xD What's that about mate?
            Anyway, I don't think it's at all outlandish to think that everthing you percieve is a mental construction or something like that. I mean, take sound for example. It's vibrations, right? Well, no not really because the actual sound itself is only a mental experience. You can't have the "sound" without a person/other creature there to experience it.

            Beliefs are not really much use, because as you said, it doesn't really change anything. You can't prove anything. The only thing you can do is live in the way that you think is right.

            You could say that since we only see our world through our human eyes and nervous system, it's a limited experience. We're only perceiving what our brains allow us to perceive. You can't reach a pure reality. Does that even exist?

            Sorry - I'm rambling. I'm a little bit...inebriated hahahahaha. This might sound ridiculous to some, but it doesn't actually matter. Indeed, what is the harm to wonder about it? Even if we can't ome to a conclusion about iti? I'm not delusional or anything like that - of course not! I think realistically about life and how it can be lived.

            Keep thinking nonononormal. Hahaha your username really makes me laugh.

            I think Jen was pissed off because you were stating it as truth "we are...etc etc"

            Aaaaaaaaaanyway, people think about htings like this all of the time. It's normal. Might interest you to know that there are still people who believe that the earth is flat. Wait, I'lll find a site for you:

            http://www.alaska.net/~clund/e_djublonskopf/Flatearthsociety.htm

            dfghjk

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            • Jen118584
              14 years ago

              What you're saying about the experience of sound makes sense.

              But the bit about everything we perceive being stored in a collective mind run by separate consciousness and never discovering new things but recalling it from said collective mind is just out there.

              I'm not pissed at all, I just don't understand the point of trying to fabricate these ideas that the world is some kind of "conjured illusion." I think it goes back to my annoyance with people who believe in creationism versus evolution. By that I mean people who reject science in favor of a belief system that they can more easily relate to because it's more acceptable to not be able to fully grasp the concepts of creationism than it is to not understand science.

              I mean I can understand believing that people perceive things differently, absolutely. But insisting that it's possible that our lives, our world, "EVERYTHING" is an illusion.....to me feels like a desperate attempt to believe something different for the sake of being different. I mean....maybe I'm lazy but it seems like it would take a lot more work to ponder the possibility of nothing actually existing than to just accept that nearly everything is the way it seems.

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    • Jen118584
      14 years ago

      Also, the idea of humans perceiving colors differently is something that everyone has thought about at one point and is a completely unoriginal example of this pointless notion you're calling a belief system.

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      • [Old Memory]
        14 years ago

        Yeah, I have had a discussion on that very topic before. Like, what if my blue is different from your blue and stuff like that.

        The truth is that it wouldn't change anything so I let it go. However, a "green" fire or a "yellow" forest with someone elses eyes would just look awful to me.

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  • Thought
    9 years ago

    i belevee but thay the evelee guement bastredss think in crazyy i understan we are one blaa blaaaa... please help me inprove my consciousness/perseption so i can talk my way out of being caought and put back in a mently hospitall.. im 17 so i am apparnly not in the person to make the desision wether im ill or not :L lol hahaha...

    sorry i cant spell but the english louage wageee is use less for experesion any how with loveee mee :) xx
    with is echily u :L hahaa

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  • Cheese123
    10 years ago

    For more, read Descartes' Mediations and other Metaphysical Writings. It deals with this very issue.

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  • Cheese123
    10 years ago

    A philosophical objection to OP's argument:

    You have no evidence to support this idea, and I have no evidence to contradict you. However, if the world is fake it doesn't matter because we're experiencing the closest thing to reality. It's better to take a chance and act like the world is real because it's good to err on the side of caution rather than risk throwing a real world away. Those are my thoughts on the concept of the dreaming argument.

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  • cheesey_jelly
    13 years ago

    I read this post again, thinking about it a bit harder this time. Your theory of the 'your blue may not be my blue' is very conceivable. We are all our own person, so we see everything and think everything differently, therefore changing our perception of life. Did you mean the color theory as a sort of metaphore? Like when I look at something, it could be a completely different thing to what you're seeing, but we all perceive it as the same thing.

    When the world ends, maybe life itself will change. What if evolution and everything in this universe started again but all messed up. What if 1000000000000000000000000000000000 (I don't know what that number is I just pressed heaps of 0's haha) years from now someone says "Look at that pretty picture" and the other says "that's not a picture, that's a telephone". ( just an example). But what happens then? They get into a big discussion about how that is a picture and telephone at the same time. Then what?

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  • cheesey_jelly
    13 years ago

    You have the right to believe what your mind thinks. Sometimes, it is extremely irrational, but it doesn't take away your right to believe it. You have a point, I see where you're getting at, but I find it hard to believe it myself. Although, I do believe it to some extent.

    The last commentor had a point, 'everything that is real cannot have an opposite' but I don't think death is an illusion. If it were, they wouldn't go to heaven (if you believe in that). They can't just vanish into thin air can they? I guess we'll never know. Maybe we can if we had the mind to study and research this, thus coming to some sort of conclusion of earth, how we live, die, think and came about.

    Anyway, like I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and beliefs no matter how far fetched and inconceivable they are. :)

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  • Cosmicgiggle
    13 years ago

    Some great metaphysics and epistomoly. But, you're too in your head with it. The acid tedtvwith any belief system: is it helpful in your journey? I, too, believe that the world (consciousness) is of our collective thoughts and actions.

    Nothing real can be harmed. Nothing unreal exists. What is real can have no opposite. Thus if life is real, then death is only an illusion. Therein lies thebpeace if God. Thanks for your thoughts

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  • Grymlocke
    14 years ago

    wiki qualia

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    • nonononormal
      14 years ago

      Wow that's interesting! Thanks for the heads up. I kinda felt that this was thought of before, and that entry can definitely explain it more than I can!

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  • leahquestions
    14 years ago

    generalization doesn't mean interpretation is the same as we look deeper.. I like the illusion theory. living in one's own realty varies through time as our lives change. discovering and learning is the way to progress. to change an illusion or state of mind to one's own benefit may be my answer to my own story.thank you

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  • black_snake
    14 years ago

    Hey poster,

    you have the most stupid weird brain ever

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  • CaptainMuffin
    14 years ago

    I have had this theory as well for a LONG time but i think of the color aspect as if it is all coincidence lke they speak english in a differrent way for example blue = pass me the pencil so if I said "look at that nice blue colour" the other person would think "oh noes i dont have a pencil" they will say "no, its horrible" which in their version of english will mean sorry i dont have a pencil.

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  • PoisonFlowers
    14 years ago

    I'm not sure what your trying to say about recalling bits of info from our consciousness' (if you're saying what I think your saying, I don't think I agree), but...you only just figured it out? ;)

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  • InvalidUsername666
    14 years ago

    I agree with the color. The blues your seeing may not be the blue I am seeing.

    But everything else...I don't know man...

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  • black_snake
    14 years ago

    "With that, perhaps the blue you're seeing is not the same blue I'm seeing, yet we all interpret it the same way, as we all say it's blue. The world is but an illusion we've conjured in our collective minds. "

    Man, you need serious help!!

    Get a new brain

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    • nonononormal
      14 years ago

      No, commenter, everyone needs help because everyone is so weird, being normal is considered weird ;)

      @everyone else:
      But yeah to clear up misunderstandings, I never stated that it was the truth, because I can't really confirm it to be true, but I believe it to be possible anyway.

      As for creationism VS science, I feel that no matter how scientific the research is, both creationism and science of the dawn of man is both unproven are only numerous different speculations in many ways. With that, it's both similar to this scenario of "mind-created world". Given that, I just avoid that subject in most cases, as that also can't be proven.

      We believe in different things, that's the beauty of our individuality, which is probably the reason why we're still individuals despite our collective consciousness in this world created in our minds, if such a notion can be proven.

      But yeah in other news...
      Happy New Year, everyone!

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      • Jen118584
        14 years ago

        Happy New Year to you too :)

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