I (as a american) fully support independence for the kurds in iraq

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Probably against my own governments interest in not letting Iraq and other "nations" fall apart. But on a human level, I feel that Kurdistan should be able and are ready to "Break away" from the chalk lines that "divide" the nations of the middle east that culturally make little sense.

And the Kurds are a Pro-west people, that are not the "Arabs" that so commonly are associated with the region. They live more like Us in the west in a middle of all the turmoil, its an incredible bizarre situation. I mean even a member of our is it normal community was Kurdish, till sense-less malice towards her drove her to stop coming.

But If your unfamiliar with the subject, i recommend you to do your own research on the subject. and I'm also curious on any others the currently or maybe after a little more info and familiarity on the subject, feel similar to me.

Thank you,
for your friendly neighborhood Shuggy

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  • ines123
    9 years ago

    Woah i've never thought that people would actually care about something like that..I don't even know how to say (thank you) cuz sometimes words r just not enough.
    ..... Thanks.

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    • shuggy-chan
      9 years ago

      No problem =]

      Ironically since you left I've been hearing more more about the Kurds . I heard more information about it and made me actually think about the situation there till i felt expressing my take on it.

      Also i was worried about u too. Since things got more unstable

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      • ines123
        9 years ago

        Awwwww thanks for caring..Well yeah u r right,things have not been well here,even school got postponed for a month for the safety of students.All we can do is pray for things to get better.
        Thanks again :)

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        • shuggy-chan
          9 years ago

          Well im sure im not the only one from here worried or thinking about you. Be safe and dont be a stranger, let me know how ur doing from time to time.

          Also omg a hair heart xD.

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          • ines123
            9 years ago

            XD Gotta express ma love you know.Don't worry about me imma strong girl (i guess).

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  • handsignals
    9 years ago

    Do you support Whey.

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    • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk
      9 years ago

      for askin such a question yall deserves a swift kick in the tuffet

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  • disthing
    9 years ago

    Yes it's normal.

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  • shuggy-chan
    9 years ago

    From Chat with EW and Who

    @shuggy-chan I'm not going to publicly comment on that but yes I do support countries becoming ethnic states

    shuggy-chan: I mean it culturally makes sense

    EccentricWeird: well what's good for the goose is good for the gander

    EccentricWeird: once you go that route, that makes you anti multiculturalist

    EccentricWeird: otherwise it's a double standard

    Who_Fan4Life: The bit about the borders is a good one. I'd like to think that drawing borders where there's a concentration of specific members of a religion and/or an ethnicity make the most sense

    Who_Fan4Life: just look at africa. when africa was divided up, it was divided along colonial lines, not by tribal areas etc

    Who_Fan4Life: Therefore, there was a lot of fighting. still like that today

    EccentricWeird: @Who_Fan4Life hutu/tutsi thing. remember that thing.

    EccentricWeird: kosovo and serbia.

    Who_Fan4Life: @EccentricWeird yes! Uganda?

    Who_Fan4Life: Genocide

    EccentricWeird: rwanda...

    Who_Fan4Life: Right

    EccentricWeird: and the dwindling number of coptic christians in the middle east

    Who_Fan4Life: Hotel Rwanda

    EccentricWeird: sihks in pakistan

    Who_Fan4Life: Yes

    EccentricWeird: nations and peoples aren't respected anymore

    EccentricWeird: in the eyes of the multinational corporations, it's best if we're all a big brown and yellow blob of consumerist cogs

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  • thegypsysailor
    9 years ago

    IMO it would be much better if all these factions could pull together in building a secular state that addressed the needs of all it's citizens. A bunch of small, weak non-secular states are nothing but an open invitation for the extremists to come in and wreak havoc. It is not a good time for a country in The Middle East or Africa to be weak and fractured. I'm damn sick of young Americans having to give their lives to police these countries. Time for the citizens of the existing countries to get together and build a strong, sovereign, secular nation.

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    • green_boogers
      9 years ago

      It is unreasonable to expect the Kurds, Sunnis and Shia to live peacefully with each other. They were pushed together when British diplomats created Iraq by drawing a line in the sand after World War 1.

      The Americans need to propose borders for each group to have its own country. Insisting on one country for all three groups is perpetuating war, costly military expenses, and the loss of lives.

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      • thegypsysailor
        9 years ago

        I am aware of the history of the area, but in these times, to do as you suggest (which isn't necessarily a bad idea, but totally impractical, economically and militarily) would open these places to be over run by the more powerful radical groups like IS, and the resultant huge loss of civilian lives. Unity, as far fetched as it sounds, is IMO, the ONLY way to defeat the militants and protect the populations from extinction. After all, IS isn't even a group seeking a homeland, it is an international cadre whose livelihood is killing and making war. They have no more interest in peace than a condor has in flying to the moon.

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    • shuggy-chan
      9 years ago

      Well the Kurds have had about twenty years head start on nation building, really since the USA shielded them in the first gulf war with the NO-FLY ZONE

      and Iraq's Main problem is the rampant corruption in the Leaders in the government and military, that since the USA left, the officials just pocket and steal as much as they can.

      that is why Isis was taking so much territory over night really. The Iraqi army have no support and fled after the genreals left them. Were as the Kurds and Peshmerga (Kurdish Military) are holding the line, especially with aerial support

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  • sux
    9 years ago

    Good for you, No one cares get over yourself

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    • shuggy-chan
      9 years ago

      Your none-constructive feedback and comment down-voting is noted and needless.

      I am trying to encourage open discussion and debate to exchange Ideas and views, If you don not wish to join, then kindly decline to comment, or go fuck off to some sister-cousin sex post and allow the adults to talk little one =D

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      • sux
        9 years ago

        says the guy that acts like a child all the time and would fuck anything with a vagina

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  • Nokiot9
    9 years ago

    The Kurdish forces are like THE reason we got to pull out of there as early as we did. They do most of the FP thechild raping Iraqi police aren't brave enough for. They deserve independence.

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