I am completely fed up with the fact that jews elevate

The point is not if jews whine or not. I do not believe they do. The point is if all the awareness about the murder of 6 million jews will prevent the murder of another 6 million down the road. I believe it will not, antisemitism is alive and well, just waiting for the right circumstances to break out. Why? Because, over and over jews through smarts and dilligence, combined with the fact they always remain somewhat distant from the majority of theirvfellow countrymen they freak people out. All is the required is a serious crisis for the repressed anti jewish feelings to break out with the effects jews have been suffering since... almays really.

Jewsbdo not seem to understand, in this they are very stupid, antisemitism is not the problemnin itself, it is the symptomatic manifestation of people freaked out with fear and distrust. As long as jews and non jews do not figure a different way to have jews along, antisemitism is here to stay forever, never mind how many books, movies, museums etc keep the memory of thevholocaust, just like all previous persecutions did not prevent the holocaust. People do not go after the jews because they forgot about previous persecutions of jews, they go after jews because of the feeling of fear jews generate in them here and now at each moment in history. The power of jews today in the us and elsewere can come crashing down in a short time, in fact similar situations happened in the past.

So, either jews and non jews change their ways or same behwviours will generare same results over and over over and over over and over...

As a matter of facts there almost a resignation on the part of jews and non jews, never mind all the solemn words to the contrary

"Maybe the Nazi were right"
I'm pretty sure that answers your question right there. No it is not normal to be mad at an entire race of people because books or movies are made about the atrocities that occurred to them. That kind of thinking is reserved for racists. If you really think this way I would recommend actually talking to some Jews in person - just to see how often they bring up the holocaust.
Ignorance is the root of intolerance.

I don't think many Jews do try to elevate their suffering over that of others. It'd be perfectly understandable if they did, though--if I get kicked in the balls and you get punched in the balls I'm going to care much more about my balls than yours because they are mine.

And while there are still people like you who refuse to believe the magnitude of what happened to the Jews in the Holocaust maybe we need all those films and things about it to teach people the truth. The figure of 5-7 million Jewish deaths really is a reasonable estimation based on Nazi documentation and population demographics, it wasn't just pulled out of someone's ass.

People like you are the real perpetual whiners, envious of Holocaust survivors who were victims but have still managed to become much more successful than you will ever be in spite of it.

I think you have a bit of a point, but your rage in your delivery of that point makes it super difficult to agree 100%% with you.

A victim is a victim and they deserve our respect and compassion no matter how "whiny" we think they may be.

The Holocaust was a tragedy... All those lives lost because of hate and intolerance... It's so heartbreaking.

They are not as poor as other nations who've experience genocide, so yes, we will hear more about it in the media than we do from other places like Rwanda and East Timor. As time passes, I'm sure their plaintiff cries will subside, but we should never forget what happened so that it never happens again.

Hi guys. I am a history proffesor so i would know. During the holocaust there werent even that many jews to begin with. But that many jews in a few countrys? The numbers are exaggerated. If you read copies of files of deaths in poland and germany than you would know that the holocaust did happen- but the nbers are exxagerated greatly. Besides, the war crimes israel is commiting to palestine/ lebanon are 10x's worse than the holocaust. And more lifes were taken. So please do not just go on a website and beleive it all. Get the actual files.

Get over yourself. The Nazis were extremely evil. The holocaust was an example of how evil man can be. So to imply that it wasn't a big deal, and to try and minimize is disgusting. The Jews went through hell, and you can't put up with them acknowledging it. I'd love to see you go a day in a concentration camp.

Yes what happens in Africa is awful, and their voice should be heard more often. That doesn't mean Jews need to shut up.

Jews are just very targeted people. In the 21st century, we try and not think of this fact but it's still true and there are still anti jew people out there just like racist people. Jews have been targeted for basically all eternity. Every time i'm in history class no matter what chapter we are in of our book there is always a section marked "persecution of the jews" it is a recurring theme throughout history to downplay jews. they really don't deserve it at all. i mean, jesus was a fucking jew. christians were practically born from jews so i don't understand how christian people can complain about a jew. jews like to keep within themselves though, they are seclusive, it's true. they like to rant on the past and make themselves the victim, but they honestly were and still are sometimes. but most jews are amazing and warm hearted people, like any other people.

Oh shut the fuck up and stop YOUR whining. I think stanley_fedoraless is right about people like you (and any other bigots on this site) - you're probably jealous that the Jews have been targeted over and over, and are still successful in spite of the prejudice and violence they've faced.

Jews have been, since their departure out of Egypt and into the land of Israel, a people under the rule of a larger cultural context, therefore, this Jewish exclusivism that everyone complains about is just a sociological adaptation by the Jewish communities that were exiled to retain their heritage and religion. However, one must also take into consideration that the Judaism of today isn't the Judaism that was born in the land of Israel during the first Temple period in the 1st millenium BC. Anyone with the knowledge of Jewish society and culture would know that the rabbis only succeeded in gaining authority within the Jewish communities of Babylonia, then, Palestine and its adjoining regions after the second temple was destroyed by the Romans in 70 CE. So, today's Judaism is an evolution of the original faith. All this was necessary for the Jews because, until recently, they never had a nation-state to call their own. Now that they do many people don't agree with it. I personally don't mind, but I don't like it that thousands of Palestinians are killed because a few stupid one's launch primitive rockets into Israel which kills a few people. Nonetheless, people on both sides are dying.

This talk about the Holocaust and how Jews are using it to their advantage by commercializing it and therefore making themselves look like a pity case is ridiculous. This is modern society, people will turn almost any modern event into a movie, show, musical...etc. Its normal and its not wrong to do so.

As for the Jews economic success that everyone is so furious about: its because the Jews have for so long been a tight-knit community keeping in contact with others abroad, thereby forming communal trading posts all over the world. Its not their fault history led them in this direction.

I'm a Muslim myself and I don't think I'm insulting or degrading Jews in anyway with this post. I'm merely stating the facts that are true.

I get what you are saying but I think about black ppl that way. I mean always making fun of people who are white but as SOON as someone says one bad thing to them they pull the goddamn race card

You are a bigot. An ignorant bigot. Period.

jews are sneaky.

Yeah, black people are crazy over that shit.

agreed. in the media we hear so much more about the jewish suffering over the last 2000 years, yet we hear little to nothing about the rwandans who suffered in the 100 day struggle. even now, hundreds of thousands of africans a year are dying b/c of civil war and genocide, yet there is little to no coverage of their suffering in the news. the jewish people have suffered, that is for certain, but they need to shut the fuck up about it.

How about the 6,500 + innocent Palestinian civilians (including little children) who have been brutalized and murdered by the Izraelis, and that's only since 2000. What about them? Also, I could give a litany of peoples who are and have been tortured, brutalized, disappeared, massacred over the decades. So, I do ask why are the jews so special and important in this sense? It's like the have the sole right to being victims and use it as a way to get people to tip toe around them. Get over it! I'm Irish. The British murdered have the population during the so called 'potato famine'. There was no famine. It was genocide. 4 million of us perished and you don't hear us bang on about it.

Well I just loathe how there were many non-Jews killed in the Holocaust, and they are rarely recognized. It was roughly 18 million killed; 6 million were Jews, but the rest were political enemies of Hitler, gypsies, communists, anybody non-aryan and so on. The only reason this suffering is focused on so intently in America is because Jews hold a lot of corporate power, and have spread this notion throughout the media. Its why we so vehemently defend Israel. It serves no economic or political interest to be an ally to them, but we are. 30 million were killed in the later 50s by Mao Zedongs great leap forward: 20 million under Stalin.

and @ ronja... It has been archaelogically proven the Jews were never in Eygpt. Besides this isn't a contest, its about suffering of individuals, not the group

Numbers killed by the Nazis don't lie. As already mentioned, the Nazis kept records that detail what was done, where it was done, and the most efficent ways to do it.

I am jelous of those fucking jews.

I happen to agree to a certain extent. It's not that I hate Jewish people it's that I hate people who complain about the suffering of "their people".

It gets to a point where you just get so frustrated by people complaining that you just generalize and say you hate them when you really are just directing your anger towards certain parts of these groups.

OY VEY, THIS PRICE OF GEFELTI FISH, OY VEY, IT'S SO DAMP OUT THESE DAYS OY VEY OY VEY OY VEY!

They whine like rusting chainsaws I can't even watch Seinfeld or Curb your Enthusiams after having worked with them.

HOOOKNOSE HELL.

Yes it's very sad your people have been oppressed, maybe if you weren't so damn obnoxiously whiny. Every other culture has learned how to guilt and shame people from them.

My friend is German, he does work for equal rights, his great-grandfather may or may not have been a German who just lived in Germany during the holocaust. According to whiny shaming Jews my friend who does more for equal rights then they loudest shaming Jew does, should carry the guilt and shame of generations long ago that he has nothing to do with.

Transferring guilt across generations is the sign of a culture that cannot move on or has no redeeming reality to make people both remember when necessary and move onto living for today, not the suffering.

We're all just mostly trying to be good people and take care of our families, but god forbid your heritage did bad things once (which EVEN THE JEWS HAVE IN PLACES LIKE RUSSIA WHERE BOLSHEVIKS MASSACRED MENSHEVIKS) you should carry the shame.

BULL SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT.

Stop treating human suffering likema competition. Silly troll.

This post is anti-Jewish. Irrational and barbaric.

You clearly hate jews for whatever reason, I suspect it's because you're also a member of a minority group that was victimised but you feel your problems are ignored generally and Jewish problems like the Holocaust, European segregation, hate crimes and anti-semitism are given more publicity or recognition.

From that point, I believe you become anti-semitic. You hate Jews because they're more, frankly, recognised.

You are a sad little man, and you have my pity.

Six million people died. Isn't that enough for you? What's your definition of "suffering?" Evidently, remembering millions of innocent deaths (including 1.5 million children) doesn't make the cut.

let it go....

People should be reminded that the Jews are not the only ones though-out history that have gone through tremendous suffering. More people in the US would become aware of this fact, if they weren't so self-involved, and chose not to ignore most of what goes on outside of their own borders.

Even more so, the Jews that are alive today are not the ones suffering, it was their ancestors. If anything, they've become highly successful, thanks largely in part to the United States.

However, the Jews practically own Hollywood, which is why we see movie after movie reminding us about the pain and suffering they themselves never felt. Or better yet, reminding us that before they were really old enough to understand any of it, Jews were treated badly half way across the globe.

And, since many Americans believe that Israel is the "Holy Land", the Jews today themselves practically own the US. Leave the United States, and you won't hear about the Jews and their "suffering" anymore.

Boo-hoo.

I agree with the OP, they always have to let everyone know they are Jews too. Super annoying....

Whites were traded as slaves long before and more often than the blacks. I'm not a bigot, promise. Check out the book The Redneck Manifesto by Jim Goad. I hope it is still in print but may not be because of liberal scum. Nearly every race/nationally/country has some history of oppression or conflict. It's all a matter of what you do with that experience.

I agree with a number of the points you made.