Human weaknesses!

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To me the only real weakness in the human race is the one that allows us to chose, because I don't think we are sufficiently evolved as yet to make the right choices. Most of us make choices we ultimately regret.
Who we befriend, who we hang out with. What we do on a daily basis. How we make statements which are specifically designed to hurt people rather than help them. Who we marry. How we raise our children etc. etc. etc.
The list of human errors is endless. Would YOU give these people the choices they have? Do you REALLY believe they have the right to make those choices when they affect every other person in the human race? Personally I don't!

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  • Fred
    16 years ago

    And as far as the concept of God goes, why would a perfect God make such imperfect beings?

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  • Footfan_90
    16 years ago

    Gee, to tell u the truth, don't think this idea of choice is confined to humanity mate. Although other species rely far more on instinct, they always have a choice, and everything living is prone to error (except for plants maybe wtf).

    As well, i mean, i dunno who said it, but you always have to keep making decisions, even if they are incorrect. Leading on to the idea of making mistakes is the best way for improvement blah blah blah

    So anyway, also, everything has negative side-effects, even the most positively-geared decisive measures will wind up with at least one malevolent side-effect, but you can't let that stop you from making these decisions, choices or watever, otherwise ur spend ur entire life procrastina.......ting

    no offence but if this really is how u feel, then i think u need to learn to loosen up lol, the list of human errors is endless, but fook me if i'm (or anyone of significance) gonna make a fuss over it

    But yes, i guess it is a weakness on re-examination. But, i mean, it always will be, even if we got a computer to make every choice for us, then there's still the likelihood of a mistake, even if we evolve into superfreaks, ur never gonna get a perfect decision

    There, i dunno if that makes sense or if it even qualifies as serious discussion, but at least i tried, and quite frankly i dont care so much anymore, cos damn they don't make 'em like this anymore. Fook it, i so goddamn tired.

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  • [Old Memory]
    13 years ago

    No

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  • Flabbergasm
    14 years ago

    Raise your children with?

    You and your spawn should be wiped out from the face of the earth.

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  • generalknowledge
    15 years ago

    we need someone like you to be president here in south afrca. someone who can take the reigns and kick these fuckers into gear. the thing is, we are still evolving. we're practicing. but practice doesn't make perfect. perfect practice makes perfect, and we cannot attain perfection because we don't know it.

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  • Deadly_Syn
    15 years ago

    Hmm...
    Either your going emo, or your thinking of world domination through anti-free will chips implanted into the anus of all newborns.
    Personally, I like the second better.

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  • BurntheOcean
    15 years ago

    I don't have a problem with free will, I have a problem with what people choose to do with free will. It disgusts me.

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  • PISSBONER
    15 years ago

    I CHOSE TO BALL YOUR GIRLFRIEND. IT WAS RIGHT.

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  • noname4me
    16 years ago

    ur an idiot, lots of animals make decisions. Often wether to sleep, or eat. But wutever decision is a decision. HUMANS ARE THE SMARTEST ANIMALS ALIVE. If nobody else makes decisions, who will. (its called anarchy and it dusnt work well)

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  • knuckifyousuck
    16 years ago

    Knuck, Gizzie, and Nearly are big tools.

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  • HighHat
    16 years ago

    This can be summed up with:

    BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.

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  • sovlover
    16 years ago

    But our wrong choices is what leads us to perfection. You can't be born knowing to trust a certain person and not another. There's no handbook for parenting. I've learned from other peoples mistakes, such as my mother or my peers. I do agree with Fred that every root of an event is predetermined for us. Yet how you handle the events may change your plans.

    I find life so interesting, and I would never regret the events that happened to me. I've learned so much even in my few years of life, not only by my owns mistakes, but others as well.
    I can't complain...

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  • [Old Memory]
    16 years ago

    I've noticed alot of people think this,even people i work with,we have these deep conversations on why God made such an imperfect world.Although i dont go to church anymore,The best way i can describe this would be,to create us as inherently good robots, without the potential for wrong decisions,and doings would not allow for true love or any other emotion probably.So we could never really have a relationship with God or anyone else if we didn't understand why we needed to have one in the first place.

    -dirt dobbler

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    • Fred
      16 years ago

      In response to you, violent, I will say that I don't believe in 'true love' for a second. As I mentioned before, the brain is just a machine, although a very complex one. All emotions, including love or lust, can be traced to chemical and neurological reactions within the brain. There is no real 'choice' in the matter. We are indeed biological robots; however, there doesn't appear to be any inherent good or evil. Everything is what it is, and will play out as it should.

      Here's a decent example of what I'm talking about. Keep in mind that this is purely a hypothetical scenario. I'm a computer programmer. As a perfect programmer, I have the ability to create the perfect program. In fact, my perfection makes it impossible for me to create any flaws in my code. What good could possibly come from me making flawed code, if it's even possible for a perfect programmer to write flawed code? On the other hand, let's say that this is the perfect code, and everything is playing out as it was meant to, which seems far more logical. That leaves absolutely no room for freewill or choice or even true love. We know, as my last post states, that the human design is an illogical design. So these are the two options here. We're either biological robots, or flawed beings created by a flawed God. Or there's the evolutionary theory that basically says we came from nothingness and will return to nothingness, in which case, we are still, in essence, biological robots with the ability to adapt which leads us right back to the initial option. What do you think?

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      • [Old Memory]
        16 years ago

        well....i guess i'd have to say that i dont think a person is anything like a robot,nor a brain a machine. I just think if man would try to stop proving things scientifically,and start looking at things realistically everything would be so much more simple,and self-explanatory. The human body itself,it's so inimitable,i find it amazing of all the different features,shapes,sizes,and personalities that a person can contain. There is nobody else out there like you,each person has their own endless blueprint,tastes and opinions. Computers are all the same,and besides who's to say what draws the line between a good choice or a wrong choice,it's you,only you that can choose which path you take. That's why to me the idea behind free will seems like it would make sense,everyone has experienced that pain in their chest,blood rush to their face,and their heart vary in rhythms when they did something "bad".

        For you to not believe in "true love" is a shame,for there are many different types of love,love can be companionship with another,your parents love you in an indescribable fashion,and if you ever have kids you will understand that type of love.Lust is not love.Love is not something hallmark invented.I've never been in love,but i'm sure like the unique properties of an individual,no love story is the same.

        "We're either biological robots, or flawed beings created by a flawed God."

        I think people have a hard time believing there could be a god out there who is an omnipotent being,and knows every strand on your head to every thought in your mind. It is a little overbearing to think about really,and by no means do i have the answers on how the origin,demise or afterlife of man came or comes about,but maybe if God did create us,his intentions were when he created us with flaws would be to save us from these flaws,so that he to could have a purpose.

        -dirt dobbler

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        • Fred
          16 years ago

          I must completely disagree with you. Maybe you would rather not know the answers while possibly deluding yourself into believing that you're more than just a biological robot. That's fine; but here's where you're flat out wrong. You say that no two humans are exactly the same, and you are correct. But no two rocks are the same. No two snowflakes are the same. And yes, no two computers are exactly alike. I've been around computers long enough to know this. Though they may have much the same functions, they aren't the same. And that 'blood rush' feeling you speak of is simply a biological response, much the same as a computer giving an error message when an error is made. We are just computers that are partially preprogrammed, partially programmed by our environment, and partially programmed by events and other means. That's what makes us different. We have that aspect of evolution and development built in.

          Regardless of the type, love is still just a function of the brain. All love has a conditional aspect to it. I see nothing special about it. Yes, it affects different people in different ways, because everybody is different as we've determined. The same can be said for hate, or any other emotion. The difference is, I've concluded from my observations that, overall, love is one of the least productive of all emotions, and in the end, can result in the most emotional pain and suffering of all emotions if it doesn't work out.

          I haven't come to a conclusion as to whether an omnipotent and perfect God exists, and I find the idea far less than overbearing. If he does exist, I just question his motives and logic.

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          • [Old Memory]
            16 years ago

            I respect what you're saying,but a computer is a machine made by man,it didn't just come into existence by an unknown force like we did,so how could we be like a robot? You say emotions are just a function of the brain,on the contrary if we hadn't developed these emotions,would we not then be robots? Just because we all have the same type of emotions,doesn't make us bionic people,because everything we do,and every sentiment of anything we have ever had is acted upon differently than from another.

            I look at nature,and the human body,even how children can grow from something the size of a dot from a ball point pen to an adult,it's incredible. Throughout time people in history have always felt like there was something out there more superior.I mean Indians used to worship the sun,stars,moon,and some even corn,and of course other civilizations have been known to worship idols they created. Honestly i think people who dont believe there is a God are too smart for their own good. I'm not trying to tell you you should believe in God,but having an open mind is better than having a robotic mind. =)

            -dirt dobbler

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            • Fred
              16 years ago

              Well let%%u2019s consider this, once again, purely hypothetical scenario. God creates man in his image. Man is a machine made to serve God%%u2019s purposes. Man makes computers in his image. Computers serve man%%u2019s purpose. Do you see the parallels? Computers have very similar functions as humans do; however, computers are superior in many ways. If programmed correctly, a computer can%%u2019t be wrong unless it malfunctions. Due to the obvious flaws in the universe and human biology, I just can%%u2019t see how we can be superior to a perfectly programmed computer. The biological nature of humanity itself is a serious flaw, and if you%%u2019re too blind to see that, I%%u2019m sorry for you. Yes, out ability for adaptation is what makes us %%u2018special%%u2019, but the fact that we can%%u2019t even understand our own biology enough to repair simple flaws is a concern. So we rely on our primitive breeding techniques to replicate which ultimately limits our abilities due to the great time and effort it takes to find an adequate mate, breed, raise a child, etc. I can think of about a million different designs to create far more superior beings than humans; but my human limitations prevent me from putting these designs into practice. Where you see the creation and evolution of human beings an incredible thing, I simply see it as a fatal flaw. I doubt we can ever come to an agreement on this, but it%%u2019s still an interesting discussion.

              I have never flat out said that I don%%u2019t believe in God, because I do indeed think that there is a possibility that God exists. I am human, so I don%%u2019t know everything. I just say that the thought of a perfect God creating flawed humans is highly illogical. Perhaps there is a God, but he is imperfect. Perhaps Alien beings came to this planet long ago and genetically modified primates to mine gold so they could spray into their atmosphere to prevent global climate changes on their planet. Who knows for sure? I don%%u2019t, and I highly doubt any human will ever know for sure. I always keep an open mind. I just follow the logic that is programmed into me and serve my functions. If something you say seems logical to me, I%%u2019ll follow your advice. If it doesn%%u2019t, I won%%u2019t. And it is my position that, since the existence of a God cannot be proven, I will have to allow my brain to process the data it receives while attempting to come to a logical conclusion.

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  • [Old Memory]
    16 years ago

    i don't believe in evolution,i guess it's a sort of rebellion I have,given that everyone says it's true,when infact it's just a man-made theory.Our flaws are what makes our personalities,and character, and to see the outcome of our choices is what makes the day by day worth living.

    -dirt dobbler

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  • JanIAm
    16 years ago

    If you apply the Christian model to freedom of choice, we were "blessed" with this ability because our deity wanted us to be more than clones of the godhead. Compared to other living organisms on Earth, humans have a more highly developed brain capable of abstract reasoning, language, and introspection. Obviously, this is a very mixed blessing, and as to whether it was a gift from a higher being or an accident of nature, I do not know.

    If we ran on pure instinct, however, would you even have the capacity to write this post, questioning the value of being able to make choices? That's what is achingly wonderful about human choices: how our curiosity leads us into the stars or into the gutter; our compassion leads us to save the lives of complete strangers or to be suckered into loving the wrong people; our reasoning leads us to solve complex problems that can improve the lives of many or to justify genetic hatred; etc.

    I am disappointed every day of my life by the choices made by others, but I'm willing to accept that as part of the human condition. The alternative -- a world controlled by some form of moral artificial intelligence (programmed by whom?) or humans genetically engineered to filter out the "bad" choosers from the "good" (again, who decides?), is clearly untenable.

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    • [Old Memory]
      16 years ago

      Thank you Jan. As always a reasoned post. My sole purpose for this one was to inspire some thought into the thoughtless, immagination into the unimaginable and reactions/responses from our adult members. Too many stupid posts on here of late and trying to set an example of what COULD be if we all put our minds to it.
      As always, I value your input and thanks for taking the time.

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      • JanIAm
        16 years ago

        Yeah, it seems like there's been a serious shortage of mentally challenging posts lately. I enjoyed this one -- hope we see more like it!

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  • SumX4u
    16 years ago

    WHAT??

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  • [Old Memory]
    16 years ago

    I wrote this in the ( VAIN?) hope it would provoke a serious discussion!

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    • slackjawedyokel
      16 years ago

      sounds like the new chris may actually be spam or one of his crotch sniffing peons?

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      • [Old Memory]
        16 years ago

        I have given up tryimg to circumguess who is who any more. Some give themselves away because they use the same paterns. No brainpower to make even suttle changes.

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