How does consent work when drinking with a girl ?

This is mostly coming from a place of curiosity as I don't even drink all that much let alone have I gone drinking with a girl in quite a while..

But on the off chance I do end up in this spot, how does consent work when drinking with girl?

I mean say, for example: you get drunk together and she starts saying "I want you to fuck me so hard please fuck me" like are you supposed to be like "no can do you're not a sober sue :^)" seems like it could be hard to do especially if you are really drunk too.

Like....

If both parties are drunk, then arn't both parties involved "unable to consent" so like.... Yeah.... Like how does that work? What's the right thing to do? What would you do? And what are your thoughts on the topic.

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  • S0UNDS_WEIRD

    It's way more complex than people make it out to be. I'll tell you how I once handled it at the end.

    If you're completely sober and sleep with a wasted girl, it's just a notch behind date rape. It's just as bad if you notice she's getting frisky while drunk and you start downing shots specifically to have the excuse that you're drunk too.

    Now if you were just hanging out drinking with a girl, not drinking with her because you were even thinking about the possibility of something like that, and by chance things start getting passionate while you're both drunk, the both of you should ideally try to wait until you can rethink this sober, but it's hard to demonize either of you if it ends up happening since both of your inhibitions were destroyed at the moment and it wasn't a plan so much as something that just happened like so many drunken things do.

    In my late teens I spent the night with a young woman who was a very close friend at the time. It was New Year's Eve. We had each had a bottle of chocolate vodka already and were splitting another. I was pretty fucking drunk but she ended up absolutely obliterated, trying to be all subtle but basically falling all over me and trying to lean on me nonstop. The leaning would have been fine even as friends to help her balance but it was just really obvious something was going on.

    When I wasn't biting she finally started just stripping down saying it was to be more comfortable for bed but again trying to touch me.

    I was just like, "Nope nope nope quit it stop! We both know what you're doing. You're wasted. I'm not having this. Go put on a comfy shirt in the bathroom or something and I'll help you back to bed."

    She reluctantly did so and came out all weepy like, "WTF man! I loveeee youuuu though! I always have! Like, it's just because I'm drunk though right? Like you do love me though right? Right?!"

    I ended up telling her I would hold her if she would just go to sleep, and we went to sleep in her bed. She was out ASAP. I'm not sure if she even remembered it or was just mortified but we didn't even mention it the next day.

    Point is, I'm happy with how I handled that, but I don't think I'd really feel like a monster either if something had happened, because I was super drunk when that just happened to me out of nowhere and I definitely wasn't drinking with her thinking it was going to; we drank together all the time back then.

    As for guys who think it's fair game to get girls/women drinking specifically to "loosen them up" (and I don't mean just socially), line 'em up against the wall. They fucking sicken me.

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    • olderdude-xx

      Your a good man.

      I have more than once kicked someone out of my bed who crawled into it looking for sex late at night or in a few cases the middle of the night. Some of those were drunk. Some of those were under-aged.

      I'm not saying that I did not want sex with them. But my standards for who I will have sex with and under what conditions are high, and include full alertness and obvious desire when giving consent.

      My key one though (for most of my life though) - is: do I believe the Lady would make a good mother for my child if/when I got her pregnant because other than when I first learned about sex I've never been into 1 night stands (had one of those in my life very early on in my sexual life with someone I had known for at least a year). I'm into regular long term availability and routine sex for at least a month or more, and hopefully years... I also have never liked to use condoms. So I'm picky as I have always known that pregnancy was possible.

      About 20 years ago I added full Joint STD screening up front as well (which usually takes about a week to pull off once we jointly decide to do it: How's that for full consent). In my opinion; no sex is worth an STD.

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    • RoseIsabella

      Right on!

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  • Jamie_Sulky

    I feel like first of all, sex while drunk in general is a bad idea. the chances of you messing up on putting up safety measures that prevent you from having a child is too high. In addition, it's just gonna be chaos. however, I don't think its "rape" if your both buzzed an dyou both decide to do it. thats more like you both did something stupid together. if your slightly buzzed (or sober) and shes literally stumbling around or passed out and then you make a move that is no go. if shes passed out, get the fuck out. find her friends and get her to go home. I made the mistake once where I met this chick at a party and we were both absolutley wasted. She was being really touchy and putting her hand on my lap and all, but soon she was absolutely fucked, like she was barley talking and mostly laughing. I was drunk af too so I was just going "hey are you allright?" and I was patting her knee and her guy friends started labeling me as some danger to society. so yeah, it's best to avoid it if you're both wasted, but obv both of you are out of your minds so its not expected.

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  • RoseIsabella

    It's best not to get too drunk, and to assume that if someone is too drunk to drive then that person is probably too intoxicated to give proper consent.

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    • Yes. But what IF both parties are way too drunk to drive/give consent and you have sex?

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      • RoseIsabella

        How about just not getting so intoxicated?

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        • I agree that would be most responsible for sure. And likely where I'd land, as I don't like drinking all that much. But from a lawyers perspective angle when regarding this hypothetical, if both parties are unable to consent and they have sex, have they both been raped?

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          • RoseIsabella

            I'm not a lawyer so...

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            • Right, but just your common sense judgement?

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  • litelander8

    You should know someone tolerance first. Which is cool. Bc then you’re not just diving into every chick you meet, although that may be a HARD concept. Lol. But seriously, if you know the lassie you’re going to bed, then you know whether she’s actually saying yes or not.

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  • 1WeirdGuy

    Its one of those things now where a woman can regret she slept with you, say because you didnt pick up the phone the next day, and blast you on social media and go to the police saying she was really drunk and you'd get branded for life and possibly thrown in jail if you agreed to talk to police. Rape is bad but also locking innocent people up is as well.

    Imagine if you actually tried to get an individual consent for every advance like these SJWs want you.
    "Ok now may I go in for a kiss"

    "ok thanks, now may I move my hand up"

    "Awesome now may we cuddle?"

    "Ok good, do you consent to my dick in your mouth? No? How about vaginer?"

    No girl is gonna want that pussy shit. Talk about a turnoff. Back in the day if she was sending signals you went for it and if you got rejected you stopped.

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  • russellnb

    It is very simple. If she can not make a concious decision that she wants sex it is rape. Ask her when she is not drunk and you will have you answer.

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    • Yes but what if you aee both very drunk, does that mean you both can't consent? In which case does that mean you both have been raped,?

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  • LloydAsher

    It doesn't. Just get her number when shes drunk and try to hit it off later. It NEVER works out for the guy. Theres too many variables of an unstable bitch that may feel shitty for hooking up at a party thus will dump the blame on you, your life, and your reputation for the rest of your life.

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  • AdolfioHman

    As soon as she's unable to think straight you bang

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  • It doesn't, you get them drunk enough and do the deed.

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