How do you get level things out with a stone walling partner

My husband pretty much shuts down at the sign of conflict and he goes quiet, refuses to answer questions and walks out of arguments. He said that it's to protect me because at that time he needs to control his temper.

He shuts down but doesn't come back to me. I have to be the one to break the silence. How do I level thing out with him?

I've tried explaining how the silence is abusive but it falls on deaf ears.

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  • bigbudchonga

    Lol, his silence is not "abusive"

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    • It is. If it's a way to regain control

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      • bigbudchonga

        You're using serious terms in a hyperbolic sense. He's not abusive; you're just trying to paint him in a bad light. Regaining control isn't even inherently abusive.

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  • rocketdave

    I ws in a similar marriage, she would want to talk "calmly" until she got what she wanted. I then got what I wanted, a divorce!

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  • ellnell

    You clearly handle things differently. If he needs to be alone for a while, let him, but you should be able to discuss it once he's calmed down a bit. You're fixing nothing by acting like an immature child seeking "revenge", be the grown up instead and talk to him about this and if he refuses to compromise on this then you either get marriage counseling or a divorce because you can't go through life with someone you're this incompatible with and it's not gonna fix anything to act childish.

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    • I do give him time to cool down, hours and hours of time. The thing is he never comes around. I have to be the one to talk to him first even though he's the one who put that wall up. This makes me feel so desperate because it becomes one-sided. If it happened one or two times then I think it'd be ok but it's becoming a toxic situation. I've edited my post. It's not necessarily revenge per se that I want but I want to level things up because now he's the one with the 'power' in the relationship because he knows the silence will get a reaction out of me.

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      • RoseIsabella

        Maybe ya'll just aren't very compatible with each other? I would really appreciate if you shared something much more specific about the kind of stuff you two have disagreements on that tends to cause this stonewalling situation.

        There's also the possibility that it might be time for you to look for a good lawyer?

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  • raisinbran

    You're extremely aggressive. It's no wonder he wants to get away from you.

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    • I'm not aggressive at all. I prefer to calmly talk it out. He prefers to completely avoid the issue at hand. I asked him to meet me halfway. He's being difficult. He will literally not talk to me for hours on end. I'm the one who has to break the silence he created. He knows the silence kills me, he knows it'll get a reaction out of me. He most definitely uses it to control me. It's about me me me but his approach is not healthy. He will literally walk out of the house or becomes unresponsive. What happened to communication?

      So now which is why I'm looking for ways to react differently ie give him a taste of his own medicine.

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        Ohh yes you are aggressive! Posting questions on how to get revenge on the one you are supposed to love. You clearly have issues and are a crazy person.

        Rose wont tell you the truth because she is one eyed when it comes to men and women. Rose will always take the women's side because she is still bum hurt from her x man from all them years ago.

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        • I've edited my post. I was angry when I posted that. I don't want to revenge. I want him to know how it feels like to be ignored by the person you love for hours on end.

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            He ignores you because you start fights. Typical women shit

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      • RoseIsabella

        Ignore him, find something to do on your own, just for yourself.

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  • litelander8

    I don’t think it’s a bad idea to give him the silent treatment in return. But if he is ready to talk, that needs to end immediately.

    Have you thought that maybe y’all just aren’t right for one another?

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    • RoseIsabella

      I gave you a thumbs up on this one! 👍🏻

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      • litelander8

        Welp someone put it back down! Hhah

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        • RoseIsabella

          Damnit!

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    • We get along fine. When it's good it's great. It's our communication styles that are different and they become apparent during arguments.
      We're in an interacial marriage. In his culture, they have an avoidant and non confrontational culture. That's not healthy because things fester and we can't grow and gain a deeper understanding of each other. We can't evolve.

      Where I'm from, we talk things out and we explain why we feel that way and how we can meet halfway. He says he hates having to explain himself and the situation and why he said this and that. Isn't it how people communicate so we can meet halfway and understand the root of the feelings. I don't want him to 100% do what I want. At the very least, we should compromise. To him to compromise he asks me what he will benefit from that.

      I don't mind the time out but there has to be cut off time limit. There isn't and he said he can't tell me how much time he needs to cool down. So in the meantime I have to wait for him to decide to talk to me. It feels like punishment. It's miserable. It's not healthy. He said he goes mute to protect me but I don't feel protected.

      When he goes mute, I have to approach him again and even when I approach him, he'll still be in a bad mood. Responding one word answers and basically giving me an attitude.

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      • litelander8

        you can’t alter how people behave. He’s not hurting you physically. Nor verbally. Either you adjust to the way he processes things or you simple do not.

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    STOP POKING THE MOTHER-FUCKING BEAR!

    Bear bite, then yall run to the police acting the victim.
    I think he is very mature to not play your little women games and get into it with you

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  • olderdude-xx

    This is not an easy situation, and you are wise to seek answers.

    While some cultures do indeed emphasize restraint and avoidance of at least initial confrontation; it is also true that all cultures do have a successful way of dealing with conflicts in a non-violent way. This may be a lack of knowledge on his part on how to effectively resolve issues in a non-violent way.

    I suggest that you seek out some older men and woman from his culture and talk to them about how that culture deals with festering problems and important conflicts between business associates and spouses. Be sure you talk to multiple different people as you may hear a range of approaches. Be sure to talk to woman and men both together and separately. In some cultures the woman will not speak to you about details and certain things in the presence of a man; and some men will not speak of certain relationship items in the presence of a woman. You may also find someone you trust to talk to your husband and assist him (and you may not).

    There are usually at least one of 3 other fundamental issues a person shuts down like this:

    1) They feel that they have the the abilities to be very violent and destructive - or perhaps have really been trained to kill. In this case the way they do protect others is to shut down unless they are in physical danger (if they feel in real physical danger they will likely leave dead, dying, or maimed on the ground unless or until the threat does that to them first). These people need to have above average knowledge and training in non-violent conflict resolution.

    2) Lack of self confidence. This may be hidden and it may take a lot of effort to get them to talk about this. This is more likely in the realm of a professional counselor or perhaps a highly skilled life coach (which most aren't) to bring out and start to resolve. Getting your husband to start either of those processes in earnest may not be easy.

    3) Lack of an ability to properly communicate love between the two of you.

    This is in fact quite common and likely the biggest reason for divorce (although people blame other things). People rarely know how to talk about and resolve all kinds of things between them and their Significant Other (SO) or pending SO if they don't really feel loved by you (this does not mean that you don't love them and aren't trying to tell him that).

    I highly suggest that you read "The 5 Love Languages" by Gary Chapman. Ideally he would read it too (and you should get 2 copies so you both have your own book); but, you can start with yourself and leaning about love languages, what's yours (and it can be a combination), figure out what his primary love language is, communicate yours - and you can really change a relationship for the "much better."

    Once you are successful with this - you will likely find him more open to perhaps counseling or working with others from his culture on non-violent ways to resolve conflicts and issues.

    I wish you the best with this,

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  • Boojum

    Interesting how you admit that you were angry enough to say you wanted "revenge" in your original posting, but you came back to edit it and so make yourself come across as more reasonable. And yet you then say in a reply that you want to "give him a taste of his own medicine", which is nothing more than a folksy way of saying you want revenge.

    I suspect that says something significant about your communication style.

    With regard to the bag on the subway floor incident, you describe it in a way that makes it sound like you were calm and completely reasonable (even if your concern wasn't rational, given that bacteria and viruses aren't capable of boring through plastic and homing in on cooked chicken), but I have to wonder if you didn't express your fear/concern/annoyance/anger in far from calm terms.

    I also find it interesting how you classify your partner's stonewalling as abuse. There's no shortage of fragile egos these days who will label even a single, isolated exasperated sigh or dismissive shrug as abuse, but that's just drama-queenery. If everything from premeditated murder to not wanting to talk about a problem is all "abuse", then the definition of the word becomes: "Anything a guy does that isn't exactly what his partner wants him to do."

    What's actually going between the two of you is far from clear to me. You talk about him behaving in this way because of the culture he grew up in - which implies he's simply not equipped to communicate in the way you'd prefer. But then you say he uses silence to control you - which means it's a malicious, deliberate tactic on his part to make your life hell.

    Stonewalling is exasperating, it isn't a positive way of dealing with the inevitable conflicts that occur in any relationship and it doesn't bode well for the future of the relationship.

    But the fact is that you're not going to change how your partner behaves in this aspect of his life any more than you will be able to change any other aspect of how he perceives and deals with the world. Like all of us, he will change only when and if he feels a real need to do so and he's sufficiently motivated to put in the work that's necessary for him to make that shift of attitude. The same applies to how you respond to him when he does something you don't approve of.

    This may indeed be all down to him as you claim, but I wouldn't be surprised if his perception of what's going on is drastically different to what you describe. I suspect that the two of you are so emotionally immature that you're incapable of expressing your needs and desires in positive terms and you don't have the skills to negotiate your way to the compromises necessary for both of you to be reasonably content. I also suspect that unless you both care enough about the relationship to seek some help with learning how to deal with disagreements in positive, loving ways, then your relationship is going nowhere positive.

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  • RoseIsabella

    If you're looking to get revenge on this person things probably won't turn out well in the end.

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    • I'm not looking for revenge but I'm looking for a different approach. If be goes quiet for hours and I try to smooth things out he'll still be upset, giving me the cold shoulder etc

      I don't have any other option other than to just leave him alone. I can't force him to talk to me.

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        This is what you fucking say "So now my last resort is revenge".

        You clearly want revenge and are a trouble maker.

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        • I'm not looking for revenge.

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          • RoseIsabella

            ... but in your original post you did say that you wanted revenge.

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            • I was super angry at that time and English isn't my first language

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            Now you edit your post! Grow up

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  • McSorley

    Stop nagging and stirring shit up with him. He'll have nothing to, uh, NOT talk to you about. If he starts crap with you, give him the silent treatment. An eye for an eye. If this goes on for much longer, call it quits. Who the hell wants to live like that?

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    • I'm not nagging. I'm trying to talk but he will literally not say a word and will ignore me for hours on end. Even after giving him time to cool off and I approach him, his attitude will be cold. I don't talk rudely to him, I say it calmly but he literally acts like I don't exist. It's becoming a habit whereby he goes mute for hours and I have to chase him. It's becoming toxic.

      Is wanting to talk it out and reaching a solution nagging?

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      • RoseIsabella

        What exactly is it that you're trying to talk to him about?

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        • For example:

          He always carries the bags after grocery shopping no matter how heavy they are. I always insist on helping him but he always says no. He sometimes even jokes around by giving me plastic bag to carry and when I reach out for it be say nahhh.

          Yesterday he asked me to carry a bag but he wasn't serious. He seemed like he was joking. We joke around a lot. Then he put the plastic on the dirty ground in the subway and I said omg no don't do that, there's food inside.

          He got angry and shut down. Sat away from me in the train. Refused to speak. Walked in front of me on the way home like we don't know each other. I was desperate for him to tell me what was wrong. He told me i am treating him like a slave, this was out of nowhere. I always put a hot plate of food for when he gets home. I cook,clean, bake all that wifey shit.

          I gave him his time to cool off but like always he never comes out of it. I always have to start to talk to him.

          He always gives me a kiss on the cheek when he leaves home for work. Today he didn't. I'm not sure if should make dinner like normal or what.

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          • RoseIsabella

            No offense, but you sound at little germaphobic. I can't imagine carrying bags, and not putting them down to take a take a break. Maybe it would soothe your feelings of discomfort if ya'll had everything double bagged? I do think under the circumstances that he ought to let you carry some bags.

            I also feel kinda bad for ya'll, because I grew up in Houston, Texas, and I honestly can't going grocery shopping without a car.

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            • I'm not really a germaphobe but the trains are dirty. Corona is doing the rounds as well and we would take those bags inside the house on the surfaces. It just sounds gross. There was cooked chicken in that plastic bag.

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