Honest and potential, or studied and certified?

In today's world we can see that the market has been growing more and more aware of the value that an potential employee's character will have on their work and production. But in the end, which is truly more important. Diploma or Character? Which really would bring the best results?

Honest and Potential 35
Studied and Certified 16
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  • NeuroNeptunian

    By diploma, I hope you meant a degree. I don't know how I would feel about someone that can't even bounce for a GED or finishing high school.

    But character is far more valuable. All a degree means is that you have the tools to do the job right, but I'd much rather place my bets on someone that I know for sure will do the work and has the potential to succeed. Of course, both would be nice.

    Assuming the job in question is degree optional.

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  • MissyLeyneous

    Degrees and Diplomas don't mean squat.

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    • Corleone

      Alright, can I give you a kidney transplant? I don't have a medical degree, but I love to try!

      Plus, you get three kidneys. How cool is that?! :D

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      • talkingpicturebox

        When it comes to medicine, definitely the degree is necessary. But in all cases, I think honesty and character are worth MUCH more. ex. "I'll give you a kidney transplant. You can choose the 35,000 dollar transplant or nearly die from the risks of the 15,000 dollar transplant, how cool is that?"
        Alopathic medicine has proved to be out there mostly to make you dependent on their drugs and, yes, take advantage of your illness.

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        • VioletTrees

          Receipts, please.

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        • Corleone

          I'm not saying character and honesty aren't important, but you need some fundamental knowledge to do most jobs.

          What are your sources for claiming that conventional medicine is just there to take advantage of your illness?

          Judging by the prices you name for a kidney transplant, I guess you're an American. And I agree that your healthcare system has got a lot of flaws.

          But this discussion wasn't really about whether or not doctors are scammers. I just used this as an example to show that degrees and diploma's definitely have their place in society. (even though it shouldn't be a must for ALL jobs)

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    • nobleserpent

      True, they don't but they can be a reflection of something that -does- mean squat.

      Wait...

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      • talkingpicturebox

        A person who goes after a degree definitely has something to show for his effort in reaching the position in which he is in, reflects character.

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      • talkingpicturebox

        Agreed!

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      • MissyLeyneous

        @Corleone

        =__=;; No.

        @nobleserpent

        Depends on what you did to earn it. Back in the day, midwifes delivered thousands of babies, without degrees, and most of them lived.

        Yes, now we have our heavenly technology and all that crap... But who do you think is more qualified to deliver a baby? A practiced midwife, or that newly graduated young doctor who's never delivered a real baby before?

        Given the choice, I'd pick the midwife.

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  • VioletTrees

    It depends a lot on the job. Certification is really important for doctors (I never, ever see "doctors" who practice non-evidence based medicine), lawyers, therapists, engineers, astronauts, etc.

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    • talkingpicturebox

      Granted, degrees are necessary especially in positions of strong or great responsabiity making the need for character even greater. A Doctor without a conscience, a politician without honesty, an engineer with nothing more than the profit motive is more likely to build fast to gain fast, than to build well to last. The decisions made by those in power because of their degrees or whatnot have the biggest effects on our lives. Bernie Madoff, Stanford, Galleon ring a bell? The list goes on and on.

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      • VioletTrees

        Oh, both are definitely necessary, which is the problem with hypothetical questions like this.

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  • flutterhigh

    Best results in what, exactly? Both qualities are necessary for a functional society.

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    • talkingpicturebox

      Free enterprise and good fiscal management is what makes this society function. Otherwise, society degrates and discourages acts of genuine character, mostly cuz it's dangerous for society's growth and expansion. What would happen if everyone started thinking of what really matters more than the profit motive.

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      • flutterhigh

        But that's not what you've asked (assuming you created this poll). Your comment creates a false dichotomy between genuine-people-motive vs. greedy-profit-motive, whereas the original question simply involved integrity vs. certification. So the hypothetical situation isn't what would happen if we started "thinking of what really matters more than the profit motive", it's what would happen if everyone eschewed education for honesty.

        I'm saying that it's silly to choose between a society of amoral intellectuals and a society of well-meaning idiots, even hypothetically. Both would fail.

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  • talkingpicturebox

    Definitely, although I have found that a great percentage of the job openings are in fact degree optional. Nowadays peoplea are more concearned with people handling skills and how interpersonal relationships are dealt with in the work place since this does in fact make a major diference in any workplace in which teamwork is the main effort for the company's sucess. So, in the end that's really what most of the job opening entrance exams are looking for, degree optional or not.

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