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OK INN, I want to hear your opinion on the Oregon bakery being fined big time for refusing to make a lesbian couple a wedding cake on religious principe. Whether or not you're gay, super religious, or indifferent, is it right, fair or un-American what happened?
Would they make a cake for Nazi skin head couple who advocate killing all those they hate?
Which would you rather have for neighbors, the gays or the skin heads?
I sincerely hope Oregonians boycott that store into bankruptcy.
Oregon has a law that specifically says it's illegal to deny service based on someone's sexual orientation, so I think it's fair.
No. I saw a lot of people say they have the right to refuse service, but this only applies to denying a certain person. You can't deny an entire group of people. By law it's no different than refusing service to all asians or all women for example.
The Supreme Court has upheld the government's right to protect various classes of people when the original federal civil rights laws were passed and challenged. Some states and municipalities have passed their own such laws, and some have chosen to extend those rights to homosexuals. They are just as constitutional as the federal civil rights laws.
Using religion as an excuse to circumvent such laws has been found to be invalid as they were also in part the objection to the federal laws. Religion was also used to justify slavery, racial segregation, and laws banning interracial marriage. The courts have found this to be invalid.
I would have made a super gay cake, with penguins shooting rainbows out their butts. And pink clams:)
the same thing happened to a christian bakery in Belfast a few months ago the bakery lost the case. it's disgraceful.
I'm sure there's more than one bakery in Oregon. Just go to another one and give them your business.
So you'd feel ok if you went into a bakery and ordered a cake for yr heterosexual wedding anniversary and the proprietors said they wouldn't do it because they only serve gay people?
I didn't say that I would, because frankly I wouldn't. I'm just saying why pester people who hate you just to cause a problem when there's an easy solution?
Don't buy anything from them, tell other people they're homophones, and watch they're business fail.
This is like saying that in the 50's African Americans should not have pestered the owners of eating establishments that wouldn't serve them and just eaten some place else. Injustice has to be challenged in order for progress to occur. When we live in a country where it is now legal for same sex couples to marry in all 50 states, but still legal for your boss to fire you if you do in 29 states, it is important that we stand up for our rights in states like Oregon that have passed laws to protect our rights, and continue to fight for and support such laws in parts of the country where such protections still do not exist.
It's not pestering for a minority group to demand equal rights. If it were me, I would've felt that to just go somewhere else was condoning discrimination.
If you know your history, you'll know that some of the earliest actions of the Black Civil Rights campaign were Rosa Parkes refusing to sit at the back of the bus and black people insisting on sitting at white lunch counters they knew wouldn't serve them and trying to use segregated drinking fountains.
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Did you happen to miss, "the part where one of the owners posted the lesbians couples information on facebook, and actively spoke out against them before the lawsuit even happened."?
That's way crossing the line and I wish they would be prosecuted criminally as well as civilly, but I don't know those laws.