Do you think women should have to take their husband's last name?

I don't think they should be expected to. Obviously they can if they want! Personally what I've always wanted to do when I got married is to come up with a new last name that we both take, and start our own family. That would be ideal for me. I think that would be really cute and the most fair option. But I would be fine with the guy wanting to keep his name instead. I would never be able to marry someone who expected me to change my name to his though... If it was really important to him I may consider it, but not if he feels entitled to the right, you know? I'd really like to hear your opinions on the issue!

Most people argue for it use either the tradition excuse, or say that it's needed to unify the family. But even then why does the woman have to be the one to change part of her identity? Every other reason I've seen is well, very sexist.

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  • westoptic

    It honestly depends on who has the cooler last name.

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  • notaterrorist

    so you don't care about keeping your own family name but you wouldn't take your husbands surname either? that sounds stupid

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    • I said that if it was important to him and he asked me to do it then I probably would. As long as he didn't just expect me to do it.

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  • Arm0se

    It's the couple's choice.

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  • I don't think they "have" to today, though.

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    • You're right, legally they don't. I didn't word the question well. It probably should have said like "In your opinion, should women take their husbands name?"

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      • Couman

        In that case I have no opinion. It's up them, and to a lesser extent their fiances.

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      • In that case it's up to them really. Lol. :)

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  • VinnyB

    In most places just making up a name would not be legal. I am a man married to a man, he took my last name because we did both want to be unified under a single family name, and we collectively decided he would take mine. I also have a cousin who is a man married to a woman. He took her last name because they wanted a unified name, but he hated the name he got from his father that abandoned him as a small child and he was happy to change it.

    I performed marriage ceremonies for a living for about 4 years and I did about 1500 services in that time. Part of my job was to record the new last names on the marriage license. I can tell you that a large number of couples did not change their names at all. I also had couples where the female hyphenated, where both the man and woman hyphenated, I had couples where the man took the womans name. I even had one couple where he took her name and she took his, so they still have different last names, but they both had new ones. Some couples would actually be sitting at the signing table discussing it as if they had never thought about it before, or ask me what I thought they should do.

    The point is that it is not always exclusively decided or expected that the woman take the mans name. People make their own decisions for their own new families. If you would never marry a man that required you to take is name, that is your personal choice. Some men would never marry a woman that would not take his last name, and that is an equally valid personal choice.

    My personal feeling is that it is just easier to for a married couple to have the same last name because the legal family relationship is automatically recognized. If you have to, for example, go see your spouse or your child that has been hospitalized, when you have the same last name questions are never asked, the fact that yout family is assumed. But that is my opinion and reasoning. Like I said, different people have different opinions on the matter and I don't think one opinion is any more or less valid than another.

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    • noid

      Interesting, thanks for sharing.

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    • Where is it not legal to change your name to what you want? It's legal in the US.

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      • Legion

        Well, you can tell people your last name is whatever, but when the papers come, whatever won't be on them.

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      • VinnyB

        The US, as in the federal government, has no laws about this at all. The laws are set by the states. All 50 states have their own laws about how and when you can change your name through marriage. Just like all 50 states have their own laws on who can get a marriage license, what age you can marry, how closely related you can be, what you must do, show, or pay to get it, and many other things. So it really makes no sense to say "you can do it in the US". Because in some states it would be true and others it wouldn't.

        I can tell you in the State of Hawaii where I did most of my services, it is not legal. There are specific guidelines you must follow when choosing the name. This is true for many other states, but the specific guidelines will differ. Also, as you say some states have no guidelines and you can do what you want. But there is no universal standard for the entire US.

        If it interests you, in Hawaii you can change both your middle and last name. Your middle name can be changed to any combination of middle and last names that the bride and/or groom have ever legally had in their lives, and same for the last name. Using this rule, a lot of couples who wanted to share a last name, but the person taking a name didn't want to lose their name or hyphenate would change their middle name to their current last name.

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      • wigz

        What he probably means is it wouldn't be covered under the marriage license.

        You'd (both) have to pay a fee and petition the court in order to change your names to anything outside of what is permissible through marriage.

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  • charli.m

    "Tradition" isn't an "excuse". It IS the reason that many do it. It was the default in Western society. How is that not "the reason"?

    Obviously, now it's optional, only I'd say most marrying couples wouldn't be putting as much thought in or be getting so concerned as this. Generally, people don't give a flying fuck about most things...

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    • Couman

      I don't know how serious she was, but my mother said the main reason she changed her name when she married my dad, was that she hated her father.

      So for her, it was an excuse.

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      • charli.m

        That's my reason when I get married, too, so I'm well aware that people have their own reasons. I covered that in my original comment. That still doesn't change it is a tradition that has its roots in history.

        In fact, I'm not sure what your comment had to do with anything. What did your mother's choice have to do with following tradition other than happening to follow it?She had her own reason, it just happens to match the norm...

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        • Couman

          I'm just saying, if you want to change your name anyway, then then the tradition of women changing their name when they marry would indeed be an excuse.

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          • charli.m

            Oh ffs, forget it. Be retarded.

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  • GuvnorsOtherWoman

    If you're cool with taking his name, do it. I personally wouldn't because I hate tradition and because I don't want to submerge my identity.

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  • andra

    No, your husband's father is not your father.

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  • mistie

    We don't have to but it's just tradition. If you want to, great but it doesn't make you less of an individual to take on a different last name

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  • fluffypinkcloud

    as if..in the past women depended from their husband in every matter imaginable..today its totally different..women are more independent, more aware, bring even more money than men..so I dont think that its normal for nowadays..It's kind a degradation ..like she is loosing her identity and melting to somebody' elses

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  • green_boogers

    Remember that in patrilineal kinship, the name follows the Y chromosome.

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    • Said who

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      • green_boogers

        Geneticists.

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        • Ellenna

          What are you on about? Names have nothing to do with genes!

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          • green_boogers

            Think about it. Only males have Y chromosomes. They get them from their fathers. In patrilineal kinship boys also get their last names from their fathers. I am only asking that you think thru this.

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            • Ellenna

              I don't need to think about it, I know all that, I just don't see the relationship to names which are a social construct, not a biological fact

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  • dytrog

    It's less confusing to share a last name when doing taxes, buying a house, car etc.

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    • wigz

      Actually that stuff is not difficult at all with different last names. It's the 'simpler' things like dealing with your kids in school or any of the other less sophisticated systems that have limited or no access to national identity database thingys. In those cases you are going to have to provide a lot of proof yourself and be prepared for denials, delays and extra hoops to jump through.

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    • I don't mind. If the guy does, he can change his name.

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      • dytrog

        Yes it is legal to take your wifes last name. I think most men want to make sure thier lineage remains in tact.

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        • What about the woman's lineage?

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          • dytrog

            It's just an American custom. In a lot of hispanic countries the child has both parents last name. Which is fine. Thoughit does make for a long name.

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            • Yeah. An old custom, put into place when women were still objects that husbands got to stamp their name on.

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  • NeuroNeptunian

    I don't think a woman should have to do anything they don't want to do. Or anyone for that matter.

    For me, depends on his last name. My last name is pretty plain and lame so I wouldn't mind giving it up but if his last name is some dumb bullshit like "Cournholl" or some shit like that then... No I might consider "Cournholl"...

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    • wigz

      If you have a son you can name him Phillip!

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  • As a gay man, it's not something I have to worry about because no man would ever have me.

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    • Legion

      Why do you say that?

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  • xeroster101

    In the Philiphines I've heard the mothers maiden name would be the childs middle name

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  • HamasIsNotHummus

    One word: Hispanics. A Hispanic child gets both a paternal and a maternal surname.

    As an Anglophone or person of Germanic descent, instead of getting two surnames, you can have just one double-barreled surname. That's what the Germans do when they get married, but for them those are only "alliance names" (Allianznamen) and as such not heritable.

    I suggest that when the couple has children, the children inherit the double-barreled surname, and that the specific sequence depend on the child's gender. When the child enters a different-sex marriage, the second element of their double-barreled surname would be replaced by their spouse's first element.

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  • GodofWisdom

    Yes, they are KING.

    Never forget that.

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  • dinz

    Many people overcome this by using Hyphenated names.

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  • sillygirl77

    I like my last name. I never changed my name when I got married.

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