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I get angry when people say they are model (at porn industry) or porn star. I think "model" and "porn star" sell their bodies for money. They are all prostitute. In other words, model and porn star are nice ways of saying prostitute. They should know that they are all prostitute whether you call it model or porn star.
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And I suppose you think all exotic dancers are also whores, too?
Who the hell are you to judge them, anyway? Why do you even care, because they don't care about you.
You make no sense and you are judging people you don't even know. Why?
It depends what exactly your lamenting, is it over the word "model" and believing it pertains to "prostitute", or that everyone in the Adult Entertainment industry is a prostitute? To be incredibly technical, a prostitute and their means of making money are different; there's a hustle, street corner, online ads and websites that will help them attain clients. Which is generally "freelance" for them, if they opt out of a pimp or "Escort Agency".
Pornstars make money in a multitude of facets, like endorsements/contract deals with companies. They are paid "performers", to create the porn provided on websites, even amateur seeming porns are produced by companies. In any regard, they can be deemed a "prostitute" by anyone who doesn't know how the industry works, behind the scenes. Yes, they are being paid to perform sexual acts, but it is not, "leave the money on the table", pumping and going, once the act is done. They are paid for their appeal, as a whole and receive substantial paychecks and the highest demanded actors and actresses will make money from their products, like pussy molds, penis mold, dolls, appearances and they receive royalties from their movies and product; given a reputable company endorsed the product.
Men and women entertainers in the adult industry, are a mixture of new faces and in demand stars, they may appear as just a hooker, but the business savvy ones' make great money off of their image, if they can do this, more power to them. Prostituting is illegal, being a porn star is not. There is a reason for this.
It's also very bias and misguided judgment, to judge any escort/prostitute, when men are constantly paying for sex with said prostitutes, married, political figures etc, they are not only the cycle of sex trade, they partake in this all over the country, no matter where it is. Women often use the services, highly, in Las Vegas, couple sessions with their husbands, or one on one. They are just as bad and warranted of being chastised, if you're so preoccupied with any form of sex trade or the dynamics of it.
I personally have no problem with this, if it's legal, safe as possible and helps someone relieve tension and enjoy a experience with an attractive person, worthy of their time and cash. More power to the people who choose to indulge, here and there, it's the corruption that should bother one; pimps/agencies.
Definition of protsitute from Oxford dictionaries: """A person, typically a woman, who engages in sexual activity for payment."""
Whether someone does it on a website, in the corner, in the bed or on the street; whether she/he get paid with a contract or paid after each sex; whether they do amateur, fetish, or any type of porn; whether they make good money or not, they are all PROSTITUTE.
You can be as technical as you'd like, it doesn't make you "right" in your judgment.
Prostitution is illegal. Working as an adult entertainer, is not. It's very simple. The dynamics and politics can be debated all day, at the end of this, the result is the same. Men and women who perform in pornography make income, legally, a "star" will attain more, not solely preforming sexual acts. I know two different people who have worked in the industry; one was not a porn "star", he did a couple tryout videos with a company and was not up to par, in performance and likeability, he did not make it.
The second friend, he's an actual porn star, with a long term contract with a reputable company, he lives incredibly well, in NY. He doesn't just solely perform, he has products in novelty stores, modeling contracts (with clothing companies) paid appearances, and what I respect most, is he became a director. After all of the awards and "fast life" fun, he turned into an entrepreneur and made a small empire, with his likeness. He's well off, pays his taxes and can say he worked hard, to attain stability. His case was fairytale, the best that can happen. Not everyone reaches this, but in no way, ever, would I consider him a prostitute. Only someone who doesn't understand the industry, or how porn really works, would compare the two.
Prostituting is not just a term for sex trade, it is the act and how it came to fruition, illegally, tax-free and prostitution is entirely different, than what a pornographer endures. Prostitutes accept money, in exchange for sex, Jon's pay that money in exchange for sex, this is "under the table", immoral in law, dangerous and unfiltered with no one accounting. In places such as Las Vegas, Nevada, there is the Bunny Ranch. Brothel. That is legal, there is accountability for the income, payout, taxes, safety and security. That is prostitution, sure, a pornographic film is a production. It's not the same, it's similar, from an outside perspective. Having sat around on set, the entire night, while X was working, I know the difference.
If you deem pornstars this, because of the technical aspect and definition, you better call men and women, who engage in relationships with the wealthy, this too. Because in this belief system, they exchange sex and their lives, for money.
It is never going to affect your life, move on. You should put your energy into something that actually matters in your life. Debating what porn stars/ prostitution "are/is", is hilarious! look in the mirror while you type, it'll definitely alarm you and possibly give you a much needed revelation.
Go mow the lawn.
If we look at the definition (that is the meaning of prostitute not only in technical way, but also in real life), then my argument is valid.
I did not say anything about prostitution. Prostitution is not illegal in all countries. I did not say their income is illegal. Your friend may live incredibly well or may become entrepreneur, or one day he may be the richest man. But it is also important to take into account how he came to this point. When he thinks about his life, he always should remember that once he was selling his body. For most honourable people the important thing is not the amount of money they make; it is to make that money in honourable and honest way.
Not like prostitution, in porn industry they may pay taxes and it may not be illegal. But these do not change the fact that people in porn industry sell their bodies for money and if a person sells his/her body for money, they s/he is a prostitute. Therefore all people in porn industry are prostitute.
Debating and sharing knowledge are what matters in my life and that is why I put energy into it. If you think it is hilarious, then do not reply...
I tend to agree with your definition of prostitution, but it's not like it really matters to me. I wouldn't engage somebody in any part of the sex trade industry in a debate on this subject because it doesn't matter to me and I wouldn't want to disrespect them by putting them down and making them feel bad.
I know most people on here probably don't want to hear anything about God, but I try to treat people with kindness and respect and brotherly love, like Jesus did. He didn't put anybody down, except the Scribes and Pharisees because they thought they were BETTER than everybody else.
no. Most models are not even porn stars. Most of them advertise clothes.
I know quite a few clothes models and they are not prostitutes. I have known prostitutes as well as strippers too and they are very different careers than a clothes model. Strippers and prostitutes often overlap but clothes models do not.
I never said they don't get laid. I said they aren't prostitutes. I have known people since high school who work as clothes models. It's good money and isn't sexually explicit at all. Just because somebody has a job where their pictures are taken doesn't mean it's for sex.
Technically, a lot of porn stars are prostitutes, in that having sex is part of what they're paid to do.
The way you use the word 'prostitute', though, it sounds like you deem it to be a very bad thing to be. I don't agree with that.
I think that being a sex worker/prostitute can be a good, bad or neutral thing in someone's life.
By that logic, everyone in show business is a prostitute. You know, I could actually buy that argument.
I do understand where you're coming from.
The difference between a prostitute and a porn star is pretty arbitrary - and laws surrounding prostitution compared to porn often hypercritical; it's OK to be paid for sex so long as it's filmed and distributed as porn? How does that make sense?
So although a lot of people are having a go at you because you haven't expressed yourself in the best way, your basic point (that a porn star could be described as a prostitute of sorts) seems reasonable to me.
The difference is not arbitrary at all. In one case, money is being traded for a video. In the other case, money is being traded for sex.
Porn stars are selling depictions of themselves for entertainment. Porn stars are having sex with other porn stars, and the end product is a video. The transaction is between the audience who wants to buy the video, and the production company who is producing the video.
Prostitutes are selling the ACT ITSELF. The transaction is between the John who wanted sex, and the prostitute who performed the sex act.
Good point! Porn stars: money is given by the viewer for the video. Prostitutes: money is given by the john for the sex itself.
Yes, which imo is an arbitrary distinction.
Porn stars ARE selling the act itself, but they are selling it to the movie company - who is the client. The movie company then sells the depictions of the act on to the market.
It's prostitution in my eyes. Just prostitution to produce movies. That's why I find it absurd that producing porn is legal in so many places where prostitution is not (I think both should be legal but subject to restrictions).
No, the porn stars do not have sex with the directors (well, at least that's not what they're paid to do). They are being paid to have sex with other actors in a controlled environment so that a video can be produced and sold.
In prostitution, the commodity being sold is the sex itself. In porn, the commodity is the video.
I didn't say the porn stars have sex with the directors.
Not sure you get what I'm saying, so I'll leave it at that. We have different opinions.
No I absolutely get what you are saying. Pornstars get paid to have sex and prostitutes get paid to have sex therefore pornstars are the same as prostitutes.
But that surface-level analysis ignores important distinctions between the two, such as the nature of the sex and the actual commodities that are being sold.
Hell, a pornstar may not even have actual sex. The whole thing could be just staged at obstructed angles and then spliced together with editing. Or maybe the director will keep intervening and ask that the performers do specific things so that neither one actually enjoys it.
The truth is we are all prostitutes. The government is one big pimp. any human being who works, man, woman, youth, senior, gets taxed to death. Even when you die the pimp government taxes you, living off your dead body.Even when were married where pimping and prostituteing ourselves to get what we want., sex,clothes, a car, house etc
Think About It.
Well stating yourself as a model in a porn industry is like wrapping up your chocolate so that your hands don't get dirty. Pornstars, Models in porn industry, tom-ay-toes, tom-ah-toes. If you, by any chance, aspire to become one drop the charade and be proud to call yourself a pornstar.
Edit: I saw your follow up comment. So you're saying you meant to ask if photographed porn is the same as video porn.. Lol.