Do you have to go to college to be sucessful?
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ScooterNyne
College is for a minority of people. Everyone will tell you that, "Oh everyone should go to college and people who go to college make a ton of money blah blah blah". It's bullshit. College is ONLY a good idea if you can handle the lectures, the reading, and the exams, AND if you pick a in demand degree. degrees DO help people land better jobs. Going to college for a shit degree though will hurt you more than help you. And even if you're going for an in demand degree... you have to make it through college. Once again, if lectures and exams aren't your thing... don't even bother. Instead spend your time honing your skills on your own, get in to a small job, get experience, and climb your way up the ranks by getting technical, hands on training. Start you're own business even. There are a ton of brilliant people out there who are literally wasting their talents in college because they are struggling to pass exams and pay off a debt. That time and money could be going towards building a future for themselves.
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SchumpetersGale
Starting a business is hard as shit in this economy. Training helps. Also, I have a hard time imagining those who are minimally educated without specialized training rising through the ranks of employment and moving on to professional careers when there are college grads ready to take their place at any time. Not in this economy.
But I'm not saying that there shouldn't be an alternative to college, because college is a waste of time for most people.
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ScooterNyne
Your absolutely right. In this economy it is extremely hard and to try to build success for yourself without training. However in this country, the education system is garbage and people are losing that ambition of creating success for themselves because of college and a hurting economy. No matter what route people take there is no guarantee of anything. There are people with Masters degrees who have lost their jobs because of the economy and are now stuck. They can't find a new job because they are over qualified and the debt of that degree still hangs over them.
Like you said college, for most, college is a huge waste. I guess I should disclaim that, yes, you can be successful without college, but it's going to be hard as hell.
What's really disgusting is the free rides that people who aren't even cut out for college get. Like athletes.
These people barely made it through high school and are now going to have to drudge through college, for free, and get passed through to play a sport. America has it's education priorities way out of line and that's why people are jobless and the economy is suffering in the first place. Instead of "educating" athletes and special talent people that don't need more academic training, we should be encouraging students who NEED those skills to get them. And on top of that make it ACCESSIBLE to them.Sorry for these long responses. I just get very upset talking about certain topics like American education lol.
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[Old Memory]
No. But it can certainly help you get ahead.
Who would you want to hire, if you were an employer? Assuming both candidates are equally impressive in person and have equal amounts of relevant experience: Do you choose the one with the university degree or the one with the high school diploma?
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dom180
As far as I understand it: certainly not, although (depending on how you define "successful") having a good degree tends to make it easier.
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No. I dropped out of school and have been very successful. I was a self-made millionaire by 30.
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CheyChey
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Didn't mean it that way. My work isn't glamorous and I bust my ass every day but college never would've got me this. I am a real estate investor-aka 'flipper'-, started that out with only a $3K loan (far less than what 1 semester of college costs!), and I run a salvage business. I sell reclaimed house parts and anything else I find in my and others' properties (I offer free removal of "junk"). It's dirty hard work but I have aptitude for it and I acquired related technical skills throughout my life for free.
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CheyChey
I was joking but seriously though that's really admirable, I would love to own a business someday just gotta finish my degree this year then start my masters early 2014, cross my fingers and hope for some doors to open, wouldn't know where to start really but will give it a go.
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Right_Winged_Nut
If you've got the time, money, and self-discipline go for it. It's just a way to 'get a head'. You don't really need it. All you really need is good 'Ol fashion know how.
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randomanswer
Ok, I am in college and I would say that, it does help youm but its not the only way, dont trust people when they say if you are not good with lectures and exams than its not your thing, if you are good enough u can handle anything,
college will set you right on worth ethics and professional standards, however, if you already have good work ethics and is a fast learner than you might be better off starting early in the industry
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goodmeister95
Honestly, it depends on what you plan on doing. No one will take you seriously as a doctor if you're not licensed! But there are some things you wouldn't need to go to college for. Also, to be successful, you have to bust your butt in some way. I have a lot of family members who didn't finish high school, and the only ones who ended up remotely successful were the ones who worked hard later on to make up for it.
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Lil-wayne
Nice read , made me rethink a lot of stuff. Because I am currently studying I.T but university is not for me :/. I want to be part of a gaming community like casting games , organising events , etc.
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SchumpetersGale
Not college, but some post-secondary school education helps I think. You could go to trade school. But without any education other than highschool you don't have a way of standing out or showing any extra qualification or specialization.
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ScooterNyne
^This is it right here^
Trade and technical schooling is the key. Everyone who is thinking about extra schooling should look into these. I have a hunch that it's programs like these that are going to replace college in the future. And don't worry employers are already aware of this change. The key to getting a job in these times is not the pretty piece of paper Harvard gave you. It's EXPERIENCE. They want people who know what they are doing and can do it well because they have an excellent record of doing it. Anyone can read a book on how to put an engine together. But unless you actually built one, Mercedes Benz won't give you the job.
I can't stress the word enough. Experience, experience, experience! get small time jobs practicing your trade. Volunteer if you have to. go to trade school. get experience and then start using that experience to land bigger and better jobs down the road.Comment Hidden ( show )-
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SchumpetersGale
Yes. But I would also say that for the people who can think critically and put education to use in creative and innovative ways, college is still important.
Also to some people the pretty piece of paper helps heheh. My uncle was a history major at Harvard. History. Useless major, unless you want to be a teacher. But he used the connections he made at harvard, along with the pretty looking harvard degree, to become a multimillionaire.
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DADNSCAL
No, some of whom we consider our most successful people were self educated school dropouts: Andrew Carnegie dropped out at 13; John D. Rockefeller at 16; Thomas Edison home schooled at 12.
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NeuroNeptunian
No, but it helps.
In another few months, I'll have an Associates in Business Management. Before that I'll have military service under my belt. I will definitely have an easier time finding a better job with the work experience and education that I have. Ideally, it's best to have both. Every manager that I have spoken to would certainly prefer someone with and education but just having a degree is nothing special.Comment Hidden ( show )