Do you believe in karma?
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| No | 49 |
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Short4Words
Yes and no. I believe that you reap what you sow. Sort of like a law of probability. If you put you're time into crime, then surely crime will...take time from you? Didn't mean to rhyme there but am I being clear. Karma doesn't really work anyways, kill a thousand people, how does your death justify it, how could any pain one person feels, psychological, or emotional justify the pain that those families feel.
In short, I don't believe in justice through pain, that if you are to do bad, you deserved bad things done to you, because that doesn't help anything. It's like what Gandhi said about and eye for an eye; it makes the world go blind. As long as people are hurt, especially inexplicably, they will likely always hurt others back. And would you only do good things so you could have good things done to you? It seems to lower humanity to lifetyle based on rewards and punishment, like dogs.
I personally, do good things because I want to simply. Whatever comes my way thats good, is bonus. I take all the bad too, it's worth something.
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SchumpetersGale
Exactly. Its related to character and intentions too, imo. Deontological morality. If you do stuff for the sake of it coming back to benefit you, then you're really only focused on the *outcome* of what you do, which is totally out of your control. The uncertainty principle proves that physical outcomes aren't really in your control.
In that case you're simply trying to manipulate circumstance so that you can have certain tangible things. Thats setting yourself up to be disappointed and unhappy, (karma) because rather than focusing on what you can do for its own sake, you're focused on how you can control the outcome.
If you do kind/just things for its own sake, and that makes you happy, then you will be content if you can control your own actions. And thats all you can do, really. You will be focused on your actions, which you can control, not the outcome, which you can't control. Then it doesn't matter what happens, you will always have the opportunity to do good and be happy.
Thats what I think karma is. Not just physical causality, because people can argue about that forever. Its more of a state of mind.
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Gumball
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Oh really?
You are one of the few good people on this planet that does good just 'cause? What do you do? Do you voulenteer like 24-7? Do you ever do bad things?
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Short4Words
I never said it was perfect. I just said when I do good it's because I want to mostly. I'm not expecting reward.
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[Old Memory]
And I'm saying I find that hard to believe. What motivates you? Why are you interested in doing good? What do you consider to be you doing good? I have not experienced a lot of people that are the way you say you are.
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Short4Words
I ended up writing a really long response just to let you know that I am trying to respond to you the best way I know how but I realize in short what motivates me is doing good itself. I like knowing I am helping someone and contributing, that is good enough for me. I think a lot of other people feel the same way to, but we only notice when someone screws up. I truly want anyone here to know that I am not a good person by my own standards, but I want to be and will be if I try.
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SchumpetersGale
This is moral discussion, not moral judgement. Want to get off of your ivory tower? Stop throwing rocks from your glass house.
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[Old Memory]
You don't understand me.
And honestly, I don't understand that idiom. I'm terrible with idioms. I do understand that you think I was intentionally trying to be offensive.
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SchumpetersGale
Maybe I don't understand you. Maybe I'm an idiot and I don't understand the nuances of your minimalist commentary.
What I do understand is that people were having a discussion and you jumped in to challenge Short4Words about the last sentence of his comment where he makes a short and irrelevant claim about himself, while completely looking past the main message of his comment.
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[Old Memory]
That's exactly it. Why did you need to write "Maybe I'm an idiot and I don't understand the nuances of your minimalist commentary." ?
I usually don't mesh with a type of people that are over emotive, generally considered to have good social skills and be sociable, and unfortunately, jump to conclusions.
Sometimes I am a bit cruel, and a bit oblivious in what I say. I'm not trying to be offensive, but I can be. It's been suggested that I have aspearger's. Only suggested, not proven.
I did see the main message. I thought it was a bit touching. What he said was contrary to what I have seen and experienced people to be and do. I want to believe he is different. I want to learn why. I can't though, if I have to walk on eggshells, and constantly worry about offending somebody.
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squeallikeasacofpigs
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[Old Memory]
Hahaha, great answer!
You don't comment often enough and never on any of my posts :(
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shuggy-chan
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shuggy-chan
Its the spinach and I think its cheese. It one of my fav, Google it, I'd link u but I'm on work tablet
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[Old Memory]
If it has spinach in then I'll never try it, it's horrible and no worries I'm just a lazy bastard.
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[Old Memory]
It's actually quite delicious and doesn't have a strong spinach taste. It's a green thick sauce flavoured with spices and comes with cubes of fresh cheese (paneer).
Picture of it...http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nskpqOJvP7s/UL4AgEnkMUI/AAAAAAAAHu8/P0gNiw7ePvw/s1600/rsz_palak1.jpg
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shuggy-chan
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Shackleford96
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Moreso no.
I believe, be nice to everyone, you may meet them again, they may help you, you don't need any enemies.
I don't believe if I do something bad, or someone else does something bad the universe will make an equal amount of bad things happen to the person that was bad as justice. If that were true, bad people would never prosper. Lying, cheating, and stealing wouldn't work. Sometimes, it does.
It would be nice if there were that kind of justice.
There may be some kind of justice, there may not be. I haven't found what I believe in yet, as far as that goes, but I don't really believe in karma.
I do think we should be nice, and do good, and stuff, but that's moreso the golden rule.
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disthing
No.
Morality and ethics exist only within society, and as such 'good' and 'evil' are human concepts. That means when people do bad things we feel morally obliged to punish them, and similarly when people do good things we feel morally obliged to reward them - it's a necessary aspect of our continued success as a species. If it weren't for us being the moral arbiters, what comes around wouldn't necessarily go around.
In other words, I believe we have constructed our own system based around the principles of justice, which are comparable to karma. But there is no inherent cycle of reward or retribution. Of course, if you make 'bad' decisions, they can result in negative repercussions, and vice versa. But that is basic cause and effect. It has nothing to do with cosmic balance or a deity or any other supernatural influence (in my opinion).
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In all honesty...in a sense. I think assholes make themselves progressively more miserable.
A long time ago, there was a truck driver who treated me like shit, demeaned me and went above my head to make me do something against our company policy, then pompously smirked at me when I was told to do it anyway.
...I used permanent Locktite on his headlight bezels, knowing that, in time, he'd have to change a headlight and destroy his $300 headlight assembly doing so. I still grin to myself thinking about this sour, bitter, angry bastard cursing his luck...when in fact, the way he treats people caused his misfortune.
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charli.m
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Ibelievethis
Yes I do and have seen personal proof of this. Someone once made a very hurtful comment to me and I said "Those words will come back and bite you on the arse one day, I don't know when. I don't know where. I don't know how and guess what it took ny on 18 years but they did! Karma caught up with her. People say back back is a bitch but I disagree as she only pays back those who have hurt others i.e gives them a taste of their own medicine. I used to be very vengeful but not now as I know if I don't pay them back then they can rest assured karma will. I also believe that karma rewards good behavior as well.xxx
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Pwnfacertwn
That doesn't exactly meet the standard of "proof." I could pray for my favorite team to win but their subsequent victory wouldn't "prove" prayer works. I could point to countless evidence that karma doesn't exist based on your standard of proof.
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disthing
Karma police... Arrest this man he talks in tongues, he buzzes like a fridge.
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RoseIsabella