Do you agree or disagree with me?

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Thumbing is like voting. Instead of voting on the OP's question of normalcy, we are voting on whether or not we think a member's comment is legitimate.

The OP is expected to accept all comments given (good or bad) for their story or poll. Some would even like to take away the OP's ability to hide unwanted comments. An OP would normally get a big "why did you ask if you aren't willing to accept the answers when they don't agree with you?" if they complain or disagree with a commentor.

If that is the deal for the OP, then why is it not the same for the commentors and thumbing? Nobody is forcing the members to comment and half the comments written are not for the OP's benefit, so why would those commentors believe that they don't deserve the thumbings they get? Not everyone is going to like your opinions or they way that you share them, so what. Do you really think you deserve a handful of thumbs up every time you make a comment or that every single person who reads your comment will think you're as witty as you do?

You want to comment and you are not in it for the acknowledgment of others, so it should not matter to you if you get a thumbing down. However, if you do want to put any value into it, then see it as a sign that not everyone likes your opinions and not that you are being targetted.

Feel free to disagree but please explain why :).

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  • NoraBaker
    11 years ago | pl

    Damn, you people talk too much.

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    • disthing
      11 years ago

      True dat. +1. I agree! LIKE

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      11 years ago

      Jealous? :)

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      • NoraBaker
        11 years ago

        Of...?

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        • Anonymous Post Author
          11 years ago

          The ability to write long comments. I thought that is what you were complaining about. If it's not, my bad.

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          • NoraBaker
            11 years ago

            I just thumbed your comment up, out of politeness; I don't have time for this.

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    • an-easy-lover
      11 years ago

      seriously XD

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  • howaminotmyself
    11 years ago

    Did you really delete my comment?

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      11 years ago

      No, I did not.

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  • NotFloydzie
    11 years ago

    I don't understand why this is so important to some people. I'm just going to have another drink to see if I can understand you a bit more. I'll get back to you, OP.

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    • disthing
      11 years ago

      Care to share the drink?

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      • NotFloydzie
        11 years ago

        Be my guest.

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        • disthing
          11 years ago

          To thumbs everywhere! Cheers!

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          • NotFloydzie
            11 years ago

            Cheers!

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  • dappled
    11 years ago

    I'd abolish the thumbing system entirely. Once people stop seeing this site as a popularity contest, they might start being more constructive.

    I'd also remove people's ability to delete replies to their stories. If a story can be said to have ownership, so can a comment and the comment is owned by the commenter, not a person who merely reads it and disagrees.

    I'd probably even go so far as to remove people's ability to delete their own comments and stories. You don't get the ability to modify your image that way in real life so why do it here? If someone says something, they should stand by it.

    Warts and all, I say. None of what I say will be popular. But then, I didn't say it to be popular. :)

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    • dom180
      11 years ago

      I don't agree about OPs not being able to delete comments. I think of a story as like a wall, and comments as graffiti on the wall. If the OP doesn't like some of the graffiti then he or she should be allowed to remove it. I admit the function is misused by some people, but in the case of deleting shitty, tasteless and genuinely offensive troll posts it's really good to have and I've done so before. I don't really see a solution to the misuse without creating even more work for the moderators though, which is frustrating because the system is far from perfect :/

      I think a compromise would be good. Keep the thumbs, but don't move highly-thumbed comments to the top of the comments list (or the thumb-downed to the bottom). This removes an element of the popularity contest but allows us to appreciate comments without having to reply with "Support.", "+1" etc. Although a popularity contest isn't strictly a bad thing. I think without some element of a popularity battle there'd be no incentive to make the hilarious comments which are one of the things that is great about IIN.

      I sometimes delete my own stories, not to modify my image but to take down a story which I wrote in anger and treated someone unfairly. For example, I have written more than one story that made my best friend look like a total twat because I was in a foul mood, and I wanted to take down those stories because they were mean-spirited and false. I wanted to demolish a wall that was built in the wrong place. I was glad I was able to do that; even if some people abuse it the function shouldn't be taken away because it also has good uses.

      Removing the ability to remove comments would make a lot of users uneasy about saying things they think might expose themselves. If you know you can delete a comment later then you might be more honest and true because you have the safety net of deleting it.

      Good points raised though :)

      EDIT: Possible logical fallacy alert incoming. You stated that a comment should be owned by the commenter, and surely that means the commenter *should* to be allowed to delete their own comments, no? :)

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      • bananaface
        11 years ago

        "I think without some element of a popularity battle there'd be no incentive to make the hilarious comments which are one of the things that is great about IIN"

        I have to completely disagree. I don't believe that thumbs ups should be the motivation behind anyone's comments. I'd hate to think that anyone says certain things in order to get approval from others. People here are funny, they shouldn't need incentives to act that way. I don't like the idea of thumb whores.

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        • dom180
          11 years ago

          You've got a point, and I thought that section would be a part of what I said nobody would really agree with. But I do think if there wasn't any thumbing, a lot of people would become discouraged more quickly. It's a sad possibility, but I think a lot of people would be discouraged from commenting if they didn't feel it was appreciated, and the most common and easiest way to appreciate a comment is to give it a thumb up.

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          • NoraBaker
            11 years ago

            Yes, and with it gone, it would produce a succession of useless appreciation comments such as "this", "like", "support", "agree", ad infinitum. Maybe.

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            • dom180
              11 years ago

              The "maybe" is definitely true; we wouldn't know for sure until it happened what would happen :)

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          • bananaface
            11 years ago

            Yeah, I agree with that. I think I misinterpreted your comment as saying it should be an incentive, rather than you just stating that is how it is, so sorry for that:). I think a lot of people need approval. And I think a lot of people need to give their approval. Thumbs up are probably the best way to do that, or there'd be a never ending stream of "this", "great comment", "lol", etc.

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            • dom180
              11 years ago

              Ah, no worries :) The internet is a bit rubbish for misinterpretation :/

              Unrelated, but I like this sort of story a lot. It's a "makes-you-think-er", which is always good :)

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      • dappled
        11 years ago

        It's actually good when we disagree. We can have a proper debate for once. :P

        I noticed from a story a month or so ago that a few people see their stories and the comments on them either as their own, or that they are custodian for them. You and wigsplitz were two that seemed to say that and, although I didn't say anything at the time, I did spend some time thinking about it and also about how I treat stories. I differ from you both quite a bit.

        When I write a story that excites interest and gets the community going, I see it like giving a gift. As soon as it's left my hand, it's yours now. All of you. What happens on it (good or bad) stays because it's a document authored not just by me but everyone who contributes.

        I've taken down a story too, written in anger. I felt dreadful about it because it's denying how I felt at the time. I guess this is my problem. Reality can't be edited. Problems can't be fixed and harsh words undone by the push of a button. I'm not saying the internet *has* to be modelled on real-life but at times when it's contrary, it really makes me think about whether contrariness is a good thing.

        I think 9/10 people would agree with your standpoint, by the way, and only 1/10 mine. For instance, I made a comment on a post which "suggested" people suffering Asperger's stand drooling in corners. It was made in anger and was intended to be taken sarcastically (as I'd just "technically" been wrongly diagnosed with pretty severe autism and I was ruffled and bristling). What I didn't consider was that people with Asperger's might be less likely to understand that I was being sarcastic and that I was actually defending them. I had a warning from someone else on the site about how the post looks. 9/10 people would delete it but I simply can't bring myself to. I don't care if it makes me look bad or if people misunderstand. I said it because I meant it and I'm going to be very bolshie about not editing myself.

        P.S. You almost got me on the comment deletion but while I believe that commenters as comment "owners" strictly have more rights over their comments than the story owner (the current position), it still doesn't mean I think deletion is one of those rights. :P

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        • dom180
          11 years ago

          I think it differs from story to story, specifically regarding the purpose of the story. If the story is in the truest sense an "Is It Normal?" question about an event that happened in the OP's life, then it makes sense that the OP would feel a sense of attachment and ownership of the story. They would feel bound to protect it from people they don't because it represents a little piece of their own life. It's in that sort of situation when I think it's okay for OPs to push the delete button because sometimes it's the best way to defend yourself.

          If the story is hypothetical or not based on a reality, like the Dog's and Cat's faces you posted a day or two ago (I'm sure I could think of a better example than that but no sleep in 28 hours and counting does things to me), I think everything changes. In that sense I agree that you're effectively giving something over to the community, and policing what people can contribute puts you in an unfair position of power.

          It comes down to what the poster is looking for. If they're looking for an IIN verdict on an experience they've had I think it's understandable to want to defend your post by deleting comments because you have such a personal connection to them. If you're creating something for the benefit of discussion, laughs, a thought experiment or something like that then I think it belongs to the community because it was written for the community's benefit. If it belongs to the community the OP shouldn't be allowed to police it or purge it. Only the OP can really make the choice though :/

          The same goes for how I think people go about deleting their own stories. When people feel a personal connection to it, they feel a right to delete it if they want to, and I think it's a right they should be allowed.

          Deleting your own comments really seems to be down to the preference of the commenter. I've deleted old comments before when I no longer agree with them and just because it becomes a pain to revisit year-old comments you no longer believe in when someone comments on them. I wouldn't personally choose to do so to modify how I'm perceived by anyone else, but I hate looking back at things I've said which I now view as "mistakes". I guess it might come down to modifying how I'm perceived by myself rather than anyone else, and I'm not sure if that's better or worse. If I stood by something I wouldn't delete it, no matter how much bad feedback my comment of story got, but if I didn't stand by something I said I'd be prepared to delete it even if it got GOOD feedback.

          From what I've seen you say, would it be safe to infer that you think of some of the things on IIN as kind of a documentation of that moment in time, like a photograph of the moment? Because that would make a lot of sense about why you don't like deleting your own comments, because it would be editing how you felt at the time. I think of it differently, removing some things I don't feel represent me now. In the same way that I'd get rid of a shirt that I didn't like anymore or didn't fit me properly like it did when I first wore it, rather than keep it for keeping its sake.

          I get the feeling I've rambled myself into the dust now! :P I hope I've made some sense :)

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          • dappled
            11 years ago

            You hit on something I almost commented on myself and decided not to. In short, I don't really ask questions here. Whatever I post is either to divert people, entertain them, or just get a laugh. That's probably why I don't mind relinquishing anonymity.

            There are actually two things that I was a little bit ignorant about, though. First was the thought that people use the site differently than me. In fact, I don't think anyone else uses it like me and I feel weird now.

            But the second is your age. You're still being shaped by the world. Your opinions, although probably pretty clear, can still be tweaked (perhaps even just from using IIN). I look back at my old comments rarely but when I do, I'm usually surprised to find I'm indistinguishable from me today. Basically, I stopped changing. Or slowed down changing to a degree that isn't noticeable. I'll be honest, I didn't really consider any other position and I should have done. Partly I feel glad to have got to a stable point but as for the first point, I actually feel that I'm the one who is least able to comment about normal IIN usage when my own is so abnormal.

            P.S. Get some sleep. :P

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            • dom180
              11 years ago

              I think both those points hit the nail on the head. In the end, everyone uses IIN differently and what you use it for is bound to affect how you use it. As such, some functions that are useful to some people will be redundant to (or even open to abuse against) others.

              The age point is right too. I think that makes me abnormal in the way I use IIN as well, so I can hardly comment for the majority any more than you believe you can :)

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    • VioletTrees
      11 years ago

      I think the comment rating system can be useful sometimes, though. It gives you an idea of what to expect from users of this site. There are comments that, if rated highly, would make me feel very unwelcome here and cautious about posting, but I'd be glad of the warning. If such a comment had a low rating, though, that tells me "This user thinks this way, but most people here don't."

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      • dappled
        11 years ago

        Yeah, it's a good point. Although, I'll be honest, I've been here a while and don't understand why things are thumbed the way they are. There's been a spate of mildly irritating and unwarranted down-thumbings recently and I seem to spend a lot of time thumbing things back to zero. Even comments I don't necessarily agree with but can see the validity of.

        Still, it's better than the outbreak about 18 months ago where people, or a person, trawled the site with multiple accounts and thumbed specific people down to the lower reaches.

        I guess if you give people the opportunity to do something anonymously, a certain amount of weasels will always abuse privilege.

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    • bananaface
      11 years ago

      I would laugh if everyone thumbsed this comment up haha:D

      But no, we can't get rid of the ability to delete our own comments:O! What would I do? The amount of comments I leave on posts would double. I'm like a Cyberman, I need to delete:P!

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      • Anonymous Post Author
        11 years ago

        Or what if everyone left the thumbing alone for this one poll, just as an experiment?

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        • TerryVie
          11 years ago

          Sorry, no can do. I am online on my mobile phone and typing a lot is not really fun that way. Dappled quite managed to sum up my thoughts, I think it was well worded and agree with it. So instead of wasting a long time basically rewriting it, I simply use the thumbing system to show that I believe he has made a good comment!

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          • Anonymous Post Author
            11 years ago

            I don't actually care because I am all for thumbing. So, my friend, thumb away!

            But if you agree with dappled, then you wouldn't be thumbing because he'd abolish it entirely.

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            • TerryVie
              11 years ago

              Yep, but seeing how its in place, I will continue using it. Same as I would abolish my countries current political system if I could. But since I can't, I continue to take part in it, which is better than ignoring it.

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        • bananaface
          11 years ago

          That's what I want to happen, but some people never join in. I just thought it would be funny if dappled's comment got loads of thumbs up even though he is sort of condemning the thumbing system:P.

          Now, I never got the concept, but that's ironic, isn't it?:S

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          • Anonymous Post Author
            11 years ago

            Now, I want to thumbs you up, but can't. I have to tell you so instead.

            thumbs up

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      • dappled
        11 years ago

        Shh! Don't give people ideas. :P

        And you delete half your posts? Awww, that means you're depriving the IIN community of half your banananess. :/

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        • bananaface
          11 years ago

          I don't do it so much anymore, because I don't care so much anymore. It only happens when I'm in a weird mood and I want any trace of my existence here to be deleted. So I go around purging IIN of my comments, Stalin style.

          I'm trying to stop, though!:)

          Edit: I now want to delete this comment :/. I wont do it though:D.

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          • VioletTrees
            11 years ago

            I think I've only deleted one comment, and that's because I realised later that it was rude. There's another one that I'll probably delete later, though.

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          • dappled
            11 years ago

            lol, you're a strange banana. You once deleted a comment on a story I wrote and I only knew about it because of an email notification. It was a good comment too. I could understand it if you said, "Screw you, OP. I'm off to kick some hedgehogs in the face" but it was just a nice comment and I always wondering why you deleted it.

            Not that I'll ever tell you about any of this.

            Oops!

            *delete*

            :P

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            • bananaface
              11 years ago

              Haha, I actually got email notifications so that I could read people's comments even when they deleted them or a post didn't get approved, etc. Yes, I know, I'm a complete hypocrite for doing that.

              I seriously want to delete that comment now, though. I just compared myself to a dictator. What is wrong with me? Ugh.

              And what comment was it, I'm a bit curious now haha:D? I'll tell you why I deleted it if you actually want to know. Either way, I don't mind.:)

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      11 years ago

      I think that would work. I like your ideas.

      With the teensy exception of the ability to delete one's own writing. I believe if you write it, you should be allowed to erase it. But I totally understand you when you say people should stand by what they write. Maybe you should go easy on them, some of them might not be as sure of themselves as you are.

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      • dappled
        11 years ago

        The deleting of comments was the one I was least solid on but I thought I'd leave it in there to provoke debate.

        I'm actually going to stand by it. If I go up to someone in the street and say something offensive, I can't take it back before they hear it.

        I know people say this is "just the internet" but it's the same people as out in the real world and they are the same words. Why should the medium affect how we behave? If I write someone a nasty letter, is it different than an email?

        I understand your point about people being unsure of their opinions (not something I'm often accused of) and it's never nice to be told that your opinion is "wrong". I would hate for a site in which people couldn't say what they think and if being able to delete posts helps people do that, then people should be able to delete posts. I care more that people feel comfortable than about the principle. But I've not forgotten the principle. :)

        Actually, there's a caveat. Plenty of times I wake up and find a horde of notifications for messages that have been deleted. People have said things to me, everyone has seen the things, and the person who hasn't seen them and thus has no right of reply is me. I'd at least like to know what someone said, especially because it was to me.

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        • Anonymous Post Author
          11 years ago

          You make it sound as if everyone who deletes their own comments is doing it to be sneaky. I doubt that is what is happening. It might be happening now and then out of sneakiness, but you make it seem like that's the only reason why it would happen.

          At least (now) you can understand that not everyone is quite so confident in their opinions as you are. Although, I am doubtful that you understand this fully because you brought up dom180's age as a reason for his changing opinions, as if you were implying he's not mature enough to have formed solid opinions like someone of your great age. Not all adults are confident in their opinions either and that doesn't make them less than for being that way either. Actually, over-confidence in one's own opinions seems to be detrimental to learning new things.

          Also, you sound kind of full of yourself in one of your replies to dom180:

          "When I write a story that excites interest and gets the community going, I see it like giving a gift. As soon as it's left my hand, it's yours now. All of you. What happens on it (good or bad) stays because it's a document authored not just by me but everyone who contributes."

          It's great that you think positively like that about your own stories, but that attitude of taking yourself SO seriously is probably why you have overly-high (and slightly harsh) expectations for others, and it might be why some members delete their comments to you. I don't know for sure but that's my guess.

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          • dappled
            11 years ago

            I think you're twisting that a little bit and looking very hard for a stick to beat me with. I'm not going to argue, though, and I thank you for the constructive criticism.

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            • Anonymous Post Author
              11 years ago

              No, that was not my intent. I think you're looking very hard for insult when there is not one intended. I was simply contradicting your opinion and pointing out why I think you are having difficulties understanding other people's points of view about thumbing.

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          • dom180
            11 years ago

            I'd like to point out that *I* also don't think that many people of my age have enough experience to have formed solid opinions, and that ability to do so probably does increase with age.

            Also, I think I've got a decent eye for spotting dappled stories and a lot of them do spark very interesting (or at least popular) discussions.

            Although I do agree that most people who delete comments don't do so maliciously. Some people do do it maliciously but that shouldn't mean removing the right to do it from everyone else, which I think is your point :)

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            • Anonymous Post Author
              11 years ago

              I agree. I think that age does correlate with having solid opinions, to an extent. I also I don't believe it is the only reason. I don't think that all adults have set opinions.

              I agree, dappled is an interesting intelligent contributor to IIN. Although, I don't think that means that everything that he writes is perfect or that anyone else should be considered wrong for openly disagreeing with him. Just because I am not with him on this one does not mean I am against him or trying to make him look bad by pointing out a flaw in his argument.

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  • disthing
    11 years ago

    I don't mind the system as it is. I'm quite happy with it in all honesty, and I agree with the OP that when you submit a comment you're essentially throwing it out there into a public arena. The thumb system is a gauge of the response from the community without the necessity for each person who wishes to express agreement or disagreement to state it. It's like a nod of approval or a shake of the head :)

    Yeah people abuse it, but people abuse everything, you can't have a moderator for every minute function of a website. Sometimes you just have to put up with a pinch of bad so you can enjoy the greatest good.

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  • bananaface
    11 years ago

    I'm torn..

    I do like the thumbs system, because some comments are really great and it's nice for the commenter to know they're appreciated. Also, if they're used the way they're supposed to be, then offensive comments will be at the bottom, and helpful comments at the top. It just seems more organised to me.

    However, I've went back to previous comments of mine, and found that I got thumbsed up for the biggest piece of crap. And 0 thumbs for something which I put a lot of thought into and answered the OPs question. That seems backwards to me.

    Also, I don't actually think this is a problem here, but I guess it could cause users to alter their comments, with the goal of getting thumbs.

    Overall, I like them. However, I do think that they're flawed. Something which I've just started thinking about as I write this, is how users would change the amount they thumb up and down if their username was shown. So everyone could see who thumbsed up what, and who thumbsed down what. I think the 100% anonymity behind the thumbs system effets the way people act. Hmm, I'm gonna keep thinking about that.

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    • disthing
      11 years ago

      It's true that anonymity changes people's behaviour. I think in the context of the website that's a GOOD thing. That's kind of the point. Even our pseudonyms offer a kind of anonymity from our real life selves, which enables us to act without inhibitions if we wish.

      I think you're right, if our usernames were revealed every time we thumbed a comment, we would alter our behaviour.

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      11 years ago

      That might be a good idea but not fair for the people who want to remain anonymous, like the lurkers and there are many lurkers here. I think it takes a dash of vanity to be a constant commentor and not everyone has it.

      I don't really think that knowing who is doing the thumbing will help the commentor understand why they are getting the +/-. Why would they have to be accountable for thumbing when they are not acountable for voting? That part doesn't make sense to me. It appears to me that the commentors want special considerations that the OP does not receive.

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      • bananaface
        11 years ago

        Good point. I was just pondering how it would effect users and how anonymity changes people's behaviour more than anything.

        What do you suggest? That we have a list of options every time we give someone a thumb up or down, so that the commenter can see whether they were thumbed down for being offensive, irrelevant, etc? I don't think demanding a reply from the people who thumb is realistic, or a good thing. It's time consuming and it would go on and on and on. There might end up being more comments on a post regarding why people thumbsed than actual comments which answer the question.

        "Why would they have to be accountable for thumbing when they are not acountable for voting?"

        I realise that I'm a complete simpleton for asking, but could you elaborate on that one?

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        • Anonymous Post Author
          11 years ago

          I really like your idea about having a couple of varieties of thumbs for those options. I wonder if they could be color coordinated it too. I know nothing about how that would work as I know zilch about programming.

          Oh, I meant that we vote on the OP's normalness below their story, but it doesn't record who is chosing what option when voting. But commentors want to know who is liking or not-liking their opinions when nobody is forcing them to give those opinions? Isn't that a double standard?

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          • bananaface
            11 years ago

            Do commenters really want to know who likes or dislikes their comments, though? I never knew this was a problem:/.

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            • VioletTrees
              11 years ago

              I find it encouraging sometimes.

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              11 years ago

              oh, I don't know. I got the impression it was, however, right now I am unable to remember exactly what triggered my assumption. I'm an ass. What if most people don't have a problem with it? Eeeep. I guess my poll would only apply to those ones (they must exist somewhere) who do? Sarri, 'bout that. This is getting weird, huh.

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  • [Old Memory]
    11 years ago

    I see a trend here.

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  • shade_ilmaendu
    11 years ago

    I think the thumbing is a good thing because it's a way to sort content. On reddit the rules pretty much state that you thumb down *only* abusive or irrelevant content, not just people who disagree with you. That way all the trolls and ridiculous posts end up at the bottom with the most helpful or informative answers at the top.

    We have to remember that while this site is a lot of group discussion, the commenting is still supposed to benefit the OP. If we could all vote objectively and not take things so personally or make them popularity circle jerks, this would help with the bigger posts that the more well thought out answers will be close to the top.

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      11 years ago

      Maybe people are applying the rules that other websites have for thumbing to the thumbing on IIN and expecting everyone else to automatically do the same? What do you think?

      I have been confused by why some people are so touchy about it, that's why I made this poll. People are so sensitive about the perceived way to behave on IIN. Why? I wish they were more like you, you always seem open and easy-going, even when discussing things you don't necessarily agree on.

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      • shade_ilmaendu
        11 years ago

        Maybe it would be helpful to have a site FAQ, so people are thumbing based on the same criteria.

        And thank you, I'm sure the user base has a lot to do with it. Especially your point about people not bein peaceable about things they disagree with. Out of respect for the other party I'm not going to be a jackass just because they think differently. There's nothing work wih disagreeing.

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  • squirelhunter
    11 years ago

    Lol I found that funny
    Im taking note of these ideas might use em to get revenge on someone.

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  • [Old Memory]
    11 years ago

    I don't like the thumbs down option. Too many people use it just because they don't like hearing something, not because it's wrong. A lot of people will thumb down commenters, yet will be oblivious to any logical reason for doing so, which is why I dislike it.

    I think there should be a way that only allows thumbs down if there is a logical reason for it that is stated. The thumbs options are abused, and more so used for people that feel emotional about something, yet can't explain why they dissgree.

    I think OP's shouldn't be allowed to delete comments.

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    • Anonymous Post Author
      11 years ago

      So a "logical reason" is any reason that agrees with yours? Hahahaha!

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      • [Old Memory]
        11 years ago

        No, a logical reason is one that gives logic that can't be countered. Maybe it's just rare for someone to counter what it is I say? I have been proven wrong many times, and I have said thank you to them for proving me wrong so that my logic expands.

        The IIN community is rarely thinking logical when it comes to debates, even ones I'm not a part of.

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        • [Old Memory]
          11 years ago

          Again, my point is proven. I got a thumbs down, yet the person doing so couldn't explain why they done it, most likely because they have no reason other than they don't like what was said.

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          • disthing
            11 years ago

            "they have no reason other than they don't like what was said."

            That's still a valid reason, is it not? No where in the IIN rule book does it say specifically that the thumbs denote true or false. In fact if you hover over them the up thumb says:

            "Great comment! Helpful, interesting, kind or funny."

            The thumb down says:

            "Inappropriate or in poor taste".

            It does not say "This comment is right" or "This comment is wrong". It's entirely based on emotional response, NOT pure logic or truth.

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          • Anonymous Post Author
            11 years ago

            It was not me. But why is that so wrong for them to not give you an explaination? I think a thumb down is enough to get the point across that they think your opinion is worthless. It happens to everyone here, you need to get over it.

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            • [Old Memory]
              11 years ago

              It is wrong because it isn't logical. No, a thumbs up/down is not enough to explain why something is worthless. They need to explain why so that if others have the same opinion to why they see something as wrong, the person they're saying is wrong can explain why they're not wrong.

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