Do we really need the wall?

I think wall will reduce crimes. What do you think.

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Based on 69 votes (18 yes)
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  • pizzabrowniesushi

    no.cuz most druglords and sex criminals come over on these thingies called planes.

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  • FeralDefiance

    The wall's not going to do much at all about crime. Poor people looking for jobs to feed themselves and their families come across the border, not bad hombres.

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  • Gilda

    Trump is stupid,and there's a thing called "boats" and "planes"

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  • celiac

    It's too bad ropes and shovels exist.

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    • Gilda

      I am pretty sure the wall has some sort of security.

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      • CozmoWank

        I'm pretty sure the wall doesn't yet exist.

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  • factcheck

    Of course we don't need a wall. Of course it won't reduce crime. Everybody with a lick of common sense knows that. All it's going to do is raise your taxes...and I'm not just talking about the one time cost to build it, it's going to cost billions every year to secure and maintain it. And, on the off chance that it actually succeeds at keeping anybody out, it's going to cost the country billions in taxes - contrary to popular belief, most undocumented workers still pay taxes, but they don't file a tax return so they don't get any money back on tax day, or take any out through social security or medicare or unemployment or any other government assistance. Of course, we don't really have to worry about that, since almost no undocumented workers illegally walk across the border...they come here legally on visas and just don't leave. In fact, more undocumented workers leave the country over the open borders than come here, so building the wall will INCREASE the number of undocumented workers here. Fun fact. None of this even touches on the difficulties of physically constructing the wall - getting around all of the environmental protection laws, seizing private property from thousands of ranchers, and figuring out how to put up walls on such rough terrain. Any time and cost estimates you read will be laughably wrong by the time it's all said and done. There's a reason Bush put the fence where he did and left the rest the border alone.

    TL;DR it'll take forever, it'll cost a ton, and it won't accomplish a damn thing.

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    • celiac

      Very well said, but they don't care about logic or common sense. It's about emotional masturbation and Trump is the pornstar.

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  • CreamPuffs

    No of course we don't.

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  • MR.mr

    I voted for Trump, I'm not complaining he's doing what he said he would

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  • Handyman

    Wish we could have a wall too.

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  • Jacob_Zuma_783

    It's increased border security. What's not to want? Immigrants can use the various entrances to get in legally, like any normal person would. Obviously people who really want to get over will - that's not the point.

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    • factcheck

      Of course that's the point. That's the exact same thing people, who incidentally favor the wall, say about gun control - bad guys who want to do bad things will still find a way, so don't even bother trying. Well, the same logic needs to be applied to the wall.

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      • Jacob_Zuma_783

        You're basically supporting my argument. Just like guns need regulation regardless of whether bad guys will get hold of them, so the border needs extra security regardless of whether people find a way over.

        I will still secure the perimeter of my property, despite the fact that if a criminal really wants to break in, they will find a way. At least some form of deterrent is there which stops the 50-60% of potential opportunists.

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  • GYBY

    People who think walls don't work are beyond stupid. It's like saying a bucket doesn't work. Illegal migrants are committing a crime, and it does harm America. They shouldn't be in the country, and when 80 percent of illegal migrant women get raped by their male counterparts on their journey I don't think it's racist to point out. You can't just let the whole of mexico WALK into the USA, THAT'S CRAZY.

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  • ßrokenAngel

    Not without a fight you won't have A pleasant Debate you will have VIOLENCE RIOT'S BRUTALITY AND HATRED *SMMFH* What a great example to set for our young ones and youth for the ones that have pretty much already lived this heed my word's... "ONCE Again it's time to fight for the right to be Free the right to not have more Hatred taught to the young and youth if this is such a great country than why all the BULLSHIT , HATRED, VIOLENCE, AND CONSTANT WARS?? For Resources for Land hmm my husband is a Native American as am I So Trump really needs to go back and read history and then he will see who was here first

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  • ßrokenAngel

    He is going to destroy this so called"Great And So Called Free Country called America"more than it already is he is called the next Hitler and if you don't believe that than you are ignorant and blind he is going to build a wall he claims is to protect us (Repeat Berlin Wall of Shame anyone??) Then Trump's wanting to "Make America "Great Again" hmm what it really means is "MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN" Trump's nothing but a peice of shit racist bastard sooo on a serious note Who is it we really all need protection from ?? I mean he'll let racisim fly and then what here comes the racial Wars the nonstop violence and fighting crime will skyrocket to ultimate high face it people the Mundane simple minded fucks that voted for this monster have pretty much put the motherfucking ANTICHRIST into power at the Whitehouse *SMFH* GOOD JOB !!! Hitler pt 2 is going to try to create the perfect race and try to make HIS America Great Again YEAHHH RIGHT

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  • Ozzy

    Do we really need borders?

    What are they made of?

    Who am I ?

    Do we really exist?

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  • MauriceLikesChicks1015

    The wall's not going to do much except cause more trouble for the governments, a perfect example is the "Berlin Wall" back then. We already have enough American born drug lords, etc as it is. This is going to do nothing to reduce that since they could find many more ways to transport their products across the border between America and Mexico. I think that the Border Security should really focus on stopping lone wolf terrorist attacks from taking place in the future.

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  • McBean

    The wall gives us "crowd control". Border security will be able to do a better job with fewer people.

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  • Cedric_Diggory

    Why stop there though? Why not build 4 walls. And a roof. And a nice indoor swimming pool

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  • lc1988

    It will make some jobs until it is finished, however, where there's a will, there's a way!

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  • KennyD69

    Well; the "Snowflakes" can whine and moan about the wall ... BUT; the wall WILL have security like nothing else .... and it will help stop about 40 -50% of our ILLEGAL Drug trade and the ILLEGAL immigrants who try to sneak into this country ....

    He is also beefing up air traffic and the waterways which is estimated to stop another 20% or so ....

    Thus; this WALL should be a damm good thing ....

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    • CozmoWank

      Will it have a food court and a piercing pagoda?

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    • cfree

      There's a simple relationship between supply and demand, if the demand exists then the supply will be met one way or another, but if the demand does not exist then there's nothing to supply. Building a wall attacks the supply chain, and it's going to cost more to build and secure than it would to undermine the demand and collapse the supply. The question nobody ever seems to address is: "Why do people do drugs?" We know from statistics that drug use, drug abuse, and drug related crime concentrate at the lower end of the socio-economic scale, so why not identify the causal factors of the demand there? There's a good chance that the money would be better spent on solving those problems rather than on a wall that *at best* will only half treat the *symptoms* and won't even touch the causes, and worse than that it'll cost so much that it'll make the average citizen poorer and by all the data we have on drug use that means we'll actually increase demand at the same time as decreasing supply which means what? Do you know your basic economics? It means the cost of drugs will go up! Drug related crime, particularly theft, will go up because the price of drugs has gone up.... The DEA estimates cartel profits at about $10 billion annually, so if a wall cuts that in half then there's a $5 billion gap in the market just waiting to be filled one way or another!

      Think on this: Drugs are rife in maximum security prisons with guards, bars, walls, fences and so on. Why do you think a wall is going to work any better? It'll fail for the same reasons.

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    • factcheck

      I don't know what's funnier...the blatant use of fake news and alternative facts, or the fact that you mock 'snowflakes' while advocating literally building a wall so you don't have to see people who don't look like you. This thing is the ultimate safe space for conservatives. If you were actually worried about security, you'd be trying to keep out people like the Quebec shooter and all the other radical Christian terrorists(call them what they are) who kill more people than Muslims and Mexicans combined.

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      • KennyD69

        You obviously have NO clue as to what you are talking about ... Probably listen to CNN aka Clinton News Network .... like other sheepel ...

        You fail to realize that we have immigrants who come thru our southern birders the LEGAL way ... When we have ILLEGALS that cost us BILLIONS of $$$$ ; we have to limit more of those who'd come in LEGALLY ... and that is not fair ....

        Then' if we can cut / stop 40-50% of the illegal drug trade with the wall; as well ... it pays for itself in more ways than one ...

        Be careful about getting in water .. Snowflakes do melt ....

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