Do these people exist? is it normal that i haven't seen any, ever?

I think a lot of Americans hate America, actually.

Of course there are, you just don't notice them over all the loud-mouth retards that are constantly taking the spotlight.

Oatmeal raisin is my favorite cookie, and you can send hot chocolate or eggnog instead.

A true patroit questions their governments authority and intentions.

I am loyal to my country, but not the people running it. It's what I imagine a crew member of ship would feel like if the captain turned out to be an incompetent fool, steering the ship straight into a sandbar.

please come to africa, if you found someone loving his government, I'll give a coukie

Personally, I don't see what's at all wrong with loving your country, whatever country that may be, and standing up for its ideals, admiring its history and culture, or the principles that its supposed to stand on. That's all a part of what makes us who we are.

Every one has a dark side. It's our job to expose that and make it right.

Are you kidding me? I feel the complete opposite. I don't know hardly any patriotic people here.

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I think that most American's are patriotic not because they agree with everything that's going on with the government or economy but because of the appriciation they have for why our country was founded and all the freedom we have. That's what makes us a great nation and hopefully projects to other nations and inspires them to believe in their country too. The American flag, national anthem, and other traditions all are based on those things and I think it's pretty amazing

The US government encourages that attitude through propaganda distributed among its citizens so that those with strong disagreements with the state feel isolated and don't speak out.

I can't think of anyone I know who doesn't complain about the government.

I live in Europe and I deal with resident Americans. They don't have in mind ever to go back.
When they talk about their home land is a bit strange. Not one thing good to be said about.

I was actually just asking, because I'm allergic to patriotism in any way, shape or form. I don't understand, nor do I wanna know, how you can be proud of/identify yourself with something you didn't do, something you can't even help.

You're proud to be Japanese/Russian/American/Whateverian? Why is that, exactly? Not like being born from certain parents in a certain place is an accomplishment. It's actually just luck. Or the lack thereof, depending on the perspective.

OP, I really question your perspective on this matter. As someone who lives in the US, I would say that the people who are angry with the government make themselves visible REAL FAST.

Close to 50% of the country not only disagrees with President Obama, but outright hates him and continue to flood blogs and message boards about how he is a socialist hell-bent on destroying America. The irony is that those people also see themselves as the "real patriots" as if the President is something alien and un-American.

I know that's probably hard to understand for someone who does not live here.

I'm American, and I wish that I lived in Canada.

Don't know about patriotic but I have interacted with most of such people who think they are superior to the rest of the world and that they are most powerful just because they live in America. Although it is obvious that these people haven't really contributed to what America is now. they hate all those who are not actually Americans but living there and consider them to be the culprits for any kind of recession their state faces and other different problems.
do you count this in patriotism as well?

I do not hate America, I hate what it has become. Being a really old guy, I remember when this was indeed the greatest country on earth, when we had men like JFK in the White House and you actually voted for a candidate, not the lesser of two evils.
I could go on, but I think I've answered your question, because I am one very unpatriotic son of a bitch.

I see what everyone is saying and I agree with you too in a way. But even if Americans seem over patriotic to other countries is it really a bad thing? It brings people together who have similar beliefs. Other countries have had bad times too and not everyone is perfect including governments. Appriciating all the Good things in ANY country is important because if we don't think of those things and how things should be then how is anyone going to want to try and make a change? America gives people the chance to make changes and if MORE people really thought about what patriotic ment and had the motivation to actually study in depth what is happening then they find out what's wrong and can put more thought into who was running for office.