Did my ex attack me or am i over reacting?

So, me and my ex broke up about 2 months ago. We are still very very good friends, and both assuming that when the timing is better, we'll get back together (I'm at university far away from him most of the year). So now its the summer holidays - last time we met up, he asked me if I'd slept with anybody else while we've been apart, and I said yes, which is the truth. He was quite ok about it, obviously upset but he didnt get angry or anything. So yesterday we go out drinking together, we started kissing etc (no big deal, even though we're split we still hook up). We went back to his to keep drinking and play xbox etc, he went off to make food and I went to play xbox with his brother for a while which kinda pissed him off. So after that we come into hs room and start watching tv, we're both really drunk by this point and we had some argument about the program which turned quite nasty, he went downstairs and started crying, and then I came downstairs and we kept arguing, neither of us can remember what about, but it cumulated with me saying that I never wanted to see him again. I turned to walk out of the room, and he grabbed my tshirt and pulled me back into the room. He grabbed me so hard my tshirt ripped clean in two, and as it ripped I was slammed against the doorframe, hurting my shoulder badly. I then fell onto the floor hard. I was really really shocked and went and locked myself into the bathroom. Now he says that he only meant to pull me back into the room and that he was drunk, but my shoulder is like really really hurt, I cant raise my arm more than a few inches, and I'm pretty freaked out. This isn't the first time that something like this has happened. IIN?

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  • Yes he attacked you. He escalated an argument to a physical level. Also of concern is: "This isn't the first time that something like this has happened."

    So what's with you? Do you have no concern for your personal safety? Why are you ignoring, much less boozing & sexing it up with someone that upset and how volatile?

    Make a clean break of it.

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    • TheGuruOfTheSauce

      first time I think I can agree with ollie, with him getting physical like that whether he was or wasn't drunk is a red flag

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      • Exactly.

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  • runnergirl

    Under-reacting. A lot.

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  • Alcohol sounds like the problem. Not the shirt ripping.

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  • total12

    GET THE COPS NOOOOOWWWWWW!!!!!!

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  • Back to the facts:
    First, was there intent? Yes. He intended to (and did) use physical force to try to stop her from leaving the room. That is common assault.

    No one, except under a very few & limited circumstances that have no application here, (and then only if the force is reasonable), can threaten or use force on another person.

    Second, it is likely more than just common assault. Her clothing was ripped in half. She was slammed into the door injuring her hand. That is considerable force resulting in bodily harm.

    Fundamental rights in civil society is not a poorly supervised school yard, nor ignorant opinion that denies or minimizes violence. It is your right as a citizen to be free from assault.

    OP - yes he assaulted you. If you need further advice, see a lawyer or go to the cops.

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    • The reference to the "poorly supervised school yard" was for dippyhick.

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      • Oops ... so sorry .. that was Hippychick ... the transformation in my mind to dippyhick was that I could not believe that a teacher could actually be so stupid and ignorant as to give such bad and grossly ill-informed advise. Civics 101 and, well, just shut up in the meantime.

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  • onewomanband

    over-reacting. he didn't touch you just your shirt. YOU hit the door frame and YOU fell. those are just accidents.

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    • That is absurd. Did you read this?

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  • Mel

    It sounds to me like youre overreacting also. Esp when someone is drunk, they dont have good depth perception or control on how hard the might pull...etc. He prob didnt realize it at all.

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  • uknowitaintmyfault

    you're over reacting, girl.

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  • LonniLove

    dont go bk to him hes a prick

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  • RoseIsabella

    Yes he attacked you! He's probably an alcoholic and he sounds like a jerk. Stop sleeping with him cause it makes you feel like your still connected. He's a jerk. Ya'll are ex's for reason! You said it's the first time something like this happened well make sure it's the last and cut all ties!

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  • salvetori

    It was just a action that had a bad chain of reactions, he didnt mean to hurt you

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  • Joce_29

    Also, the only reason ollioe is being so extreme is because this is so important. This isn't just some stupid IIN question, this is someone in danger and ollioe is only trying to help, ignoring that everyone is making fun, to help this girl, and for that, I have great respect.

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  • Joce_29

    @: hippychick and @: ollioe

    I completely agree with ollioe. I don't know why you guys are putting down the one person who standing up for violence, it makes no sense.

    I understand that this guy didn't punch her in the face or anything but he obviously doesn't respect her enough to make sure he's being careful with her which, to me, is a big red flag. If you don't have respect, you don't have a relationship, and lack of respect can turn into terrible things.

    Also, this girl was seriously hurt, even if he didn't "push" her it was still his fault and he still intended to make it physical.

    Lastly, this isn't the first time this has happened!! If it was, then I understand why you all are so set on it being an accident and okay. But seriously, you've been hurt like this before from this guy? HUGE red flag. I can't believe most of you would encourage this girl to be with him by saying everything is fine. Its obviously not.

    Girl, get away from him, these are the first signs to really bad spouse abuse.

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  • KatzeMeow

    He was drunk.. he will not be in right mind.

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  • Ark

    to all the ppl saying that wasn't his intention a man drives home drunk hits a car kills a lady and her 2 children he did not intend to harm them but he did same thing here it may not of been true intent but she was harmed due to his actions had he not grabbed her she would not have been harmed do not minimalize it.

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  • Why not just say to he'll with the drinking

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  • justsomgirl

    OP I'm glad to hear an update on this. I think you are a smart girl and know the situation better than any of us. You clearly do have some common sense so just be sure to stay sober around him. Haha.

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  • To clear it up, this was a few months ago, we've stayed split but he didnt mean anything by what happened and I don't blame him. I think he was being aggressive but he didn't mean to hurt me. We're on good terms and everythings fine now.

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  • BoredGuy

    oh and to make it perfectly clear, you weren't assaulted

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  • BoredGuy

    Really listen to me, he is in love and he was drunk. he couldn't control his strength, he sincerely didn't mean it, but if really wanna break up with him for good, take separate paths

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  • SpikeDurden

    He shouldn't have grabbed you but I don't think he meant to hurt you like that. He should definitely apologize and I think you should definitely forgive him as long as he knows he shouldn't grab you like that ever again. Forgive and forget and DON'T argue while drunk. My girlfriend and I got in a physical fight while drunk one time. Never again. I spit at her and she punched me in the face. lol...

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  • hippychick

    I don't stand up for violence you idiot! I, however, will not condemn a person for doing something accidently. Don't put words in my mouth.

    And yes, that was an insult. Now stop stalking me you crazy psycho.

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  • hippychick

    And you know, one more thing, I have not been the one slinging insults. You are the one who's been name calling and generally acting like a child who didn't get their way. I actually asked someone to stop insulting you. Besides saying you're a bit of an extremist (which you've proven very much to be true) I've not insulted you once. In fact I'm not sure at all why your directed all of your anger at me.

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    • Oh boo hoo hoo. An "educator" who stands up for assault. Cry me a a river...

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  • justsomgirl

    Haha. Yeah I've seen that too. Olleos name had come up a few times when people are slaggin off stupid answers.

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  • hippychick

    Ollieo, have you by seen the way people make fun of your answers? I'm getting tired of this conversation. Please just stop talking to me.

    And just for the record, I also voted no. It's not normal, but it's sill not the extreme you're making it out to be. So that statistic you quoted does not mean everyone agrees with you.

    Seriously get over it. This is pathetic already. If you so desperately need to have the last word....go for it. I know how bad you need to be right. I'll let you.

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  • Actually 16% think its normal. As of now. So you are the ones WAY out of line. What do you want - an opinion on gravity?

    You are very accomplished in your insults. But you are pathetic in your ability to recognize and stand up against violence.

    Shame on you.

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  • hippychick

    Thank you for adding to this. I think the comments, for the most part, showed that we understood that and were able to figure that out from your post. Sometimes we all over react though so I wouldn't worry about it. :)

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  • Alright guys felt i ought to give some more information because of all the stuff kicking off in the comments section - I got to say I do think I overreacted. It was aggressive to pull me back into the room but it wasn't assault and he clearly didnt mean me to fall. We were both drunk and he used more force than intended but it was an accident. If the t shirt hadnt ripped I'd have been fine.

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    • I hope you are not "accidently" assaulted again.

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      • Really - I've been slagged here by the stupidist, violence enabling "stand by your man" red-neck women on IIN, but the fact is: you were assaulted. Period.

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  • hippychick

    Wow. I wouldn't have put it quite so harshly...

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  • Paul

    Oh, okay then. I just didn't know that the phrase "to hook up" means "to have sex". But English is not my mother tongue, so I might have misunderstood it.

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  • Paul

    If you are still good friends, why don't you have sex with him?

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    • "even though we broke up, we still hook up sometimes"

      Learn to read paul!

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  • combatgal856

    Well you were drunk. Has he ever done something like his before? If you wasn't drunk then maybe you would have had more balance or something.

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  • Paul

    Why do you keep provoking him by coming over to his place when you know he might still have feelings for you? Do you get some kicks out of it? I think you should cut it out or else it might escalate to a point when he will gang-bang you together with his brother.

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    • As I said, we're good friends and are both expecting to get back together when the timing is better. You aren't very good at reading Paul :)

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  • Lol, I wasn't planning on suing him, just wondering if it's the sort of thing that should affect our friendship.

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  • Racoon

    Both drunk , got mad, but YOU FELL you know... Hejust wanted to pull you back in and you were drunk so you fall and hurt yourself.

    Don't go see him again but don't sue his ass or anything.

    Americans are always exaggerating things to the point where they can make money on it.

    you should only have walk out the door and cut this guy out of your life.

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  • randomjelly

    And yet there you are hanging around with him. I think perhaps it is you with the problem.

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  • babykev

    look u had both been drinking alot by the sound of it. how many times have u been out with ur friends and woke up with cuts and bruises and you just laugh them off. i think the bigger picture is that this boy is clearly head over heals in love with u .

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  • shakenbake855

    i think alcohol played a big role in the situation and dont argue while you both are drunk..i've been there once and it after one drunken argument the situation escalated into a fight with a family member

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  • hippychick

    I'm sorry but you're overreacting. All he did was pull your shirt. Granted it was harder than he should have, but that was likely due to excessive amounts of alcohol and not actual intent. Yes, you did end up hurt but that was from stumbling into the door. It was as a result of him pulling your shirt, but I'm sure he didn't envision that happening when he tried to pull you back in the room. That's not to say that the bahvious isn't concerning, but I would hardly call it an attack. If he pushed you, yes. But he pulled your shirt and did nothing else himself.

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    • People are responsible for what they do even when pissed, including getting out-of-control. And let's not minimize the level of violence here:

      "He grabbed me so hard my tshirt ripped clean in two... I was slammed against the doorframe, hurting my shoulder badly... my shoulder is like really really hurt, I cant raise my arm more than a few inches."

      She's under-reacting.

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      • justsomgirl

        Ollieo, hippychick is right. You're quoting a whole bunch of things from her post, but all but the first line were things that happened due to the dominoe effect. The only thing he actually did, was pull her shirt. He didn't lay a hand on her or push her to the ground. If he hit her or pushed her, it would be an attack.

        Also, for it to be an "attack", you'd have to prove INTENT to harm. And like hippychick said, I doubt there was intent. He pulled too hard, but it's unlikely that he intended that she hit the door frame and fall on the floor. Those two things likely happened because they were BOTH drunk

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        • & hippychick, & onewomanband, OP etc... Lots of abused woman think: "He didn't mean to, it was an accident, not intended, doesn't really hurt...". In other words - in denial of the violence.

          I think there is a lot of denial & minimizing here.

          I am not quoting random words, it is the OP's description. A T-shirt does not rip in half by being "touched." That takes considerable force. Being slammed into a doorframe & injuring your arm to the extent that you can't move it is not "falling."

          And trying to minimize & explain away the violence with "intent" & "dominoes" is more denial. I mean honestly, did he say "Oops, didn't mean to tear your t-shirt in half."

          I'm only being persistent on this because I hope that if anyone was violent like this towards you, you would see it for what it is rather than deny it and take steps to assure your own safety.

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  • jsilver

    Okay well.......... U never can truly know if someone meant to or didn't but if things like that have happened he needs anger management classes (my opinion)

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  • hippychick

    Thank abbey for defending me but I can do that myself. Insulting someone is not the way to go.

    Ollieo, give it a rest. You're taking it way too far.

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  • abbeyroad

    What the f ollieo??? There is something seriously wrong with you. For you to get so bent out of shape that people are arguing with you is totally pathetic. And most people are disagreeing with you why are you attacking one person? I'm pretty sure hippychick neverentioned they were a teacher here so what are you doing stalking their profile??? That's pure psycho. You're a freak. And you scare me more than the dude who rippe the shirt. You're obviously mentally unbalanced.

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    • You're just nuts.

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  • abbeyroad

    Jesus Christ ollieo give it a rest. Every time I see one of your responses I scroll past it. Your opinions are totally ridiculous and always extreme and usually pretty stupid. Get over yourself.

    And hippyhick and all the others are right. You're the type of girl who just cries wolf at the slightest provocation aren't you?

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    • Buzz off, pea-brain.

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  • hippychick

    Ollieo....you have a different opinion. We don't agree with you and no amount of pushing it will change that. You're seriously over reacting. Intent is important. If you slam someones hand in a car door by accident it can cause serious damage but intent is key. His intent here is the same. He was trying to stop her from leaving...his intent was not to inflict pain. Geez. You're a bit of an extremist.

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    • I get that there are different opinions despite facts. I am extreme as in extremely against violence. And otherwise, I do not appreciate your slur on my character, thank you.

      Your point on intent is a huge, huge stretch. This was no ACCIDENT. Nor do you do anyone a favour framing it as such. People are responsible for their behaviour. Violence is serious.

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