Dating in the age of equality

So, I casually date here and there and I am very understanding of the whole women's lib and equality movement. I guess you could say I'm progressive, I guess, I'm still not totally sure what most of the terms even mean anymore. I have to admit it is very confusing, but I do my best to accommodate it.

The only problem is most women seem to have no interest in me or at least having sex with me. They basically just friend zone me, than I go through the steps of cutting off contact (the only way to beat the friend zone is to refuse to play that game) and then they sometimes start contacting me again. Of course this leads to more nonsense because I immediately start treating them as equals again, not buying them drinks or dinner, insisting that they need to split the bill, drive occasionally, and otherwise treat them as if they were a man. I mean that is the definition of equality, so....and then we end up back where we started with them trying to friend zone me again, so its like this stupid circle that we keep going around and around again in....

Any other guys out there have this experience?

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  • Tealights

    Every woman is different.

    1. You got to learn to move on when a woman isn't interested. Rejection is apart of life, accept it.

    2. Don't highly respect women to get women, it's insincere and setting yourself up for trouble.

    3. Don't give women special treatment to win their affection, that's how you get hurt or taken advantage of, save that for when you get a girlfriend.

    Basically, always treat women like regular people with the typical baseline of respect, whether they're attractive or not. Value friendships, not because they can develop into something more, but because friendships are valuable.

    If you keep living this "desperate for the vagina," lifestyle, you're going to get hurt a lot and become a misogynist with all these idiotic theories on why women don't want you, which will make you undesirable to women who may actually be worth your time and effort.

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    • Yes, in a manner of speaking, every woman is different, but big picture wise the differences aren't very much.

      1. Rejection isn't something I mentioned at all, nor do I have a problem with it. I have no interest in the "friend zone". If you aren't interested in a member of the opposite sex, you don't than try to remain "friends". Its disingenuous.

      2. Define "highly respect". If you mean calling them out for irrational or emotion based decision making, yes I certainly do that. I don't get walked on.

      3. Same as I mentioned in #2. I don't get walked on.

      Mature, heterosexual adults of different genders can't be friends. I cant reasonably make an argument to a buddy of mine that when he was out of town, his wife called me because she was lonely and I just "hung out with her". If you are talking in a work environment, that is different. I'm talking outside of that.

      Friendships may be valuable, but I cant remain friends with a female and then reasonably expect to meet a new female and say "hey, you really need to meet my other female friend Samantha, she's cute, and funny, and sweet, and...wait a second, why haven't I had sex with her?

      Same thing for men. If I meet a good looking female and she talks about "guy friends". That is an immediate red flag. Do you want to have a serious relationship with a man? Great, that guy is your guy friend. Now, if you don't, well than have as many guy friends as you want. It wouldn't matter than.

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      • Tealights

        If this is what you wholeheartedly believe, then good luck to you and any woman foolish enough to date you as the person you are now.

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        • LittleGirlBloodthirstySodomy

          You must be new you this site. I liked you after the first comment of yours I read what can best be described as a breath of fresh air.

          Welcome and enjoy your stay

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          • Tealights

            Thank you for the warm welcome.

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        • I value females for their friendship and more, if it goes that way. The cutoff can be difficult, for both parties.

          I have never used a woman's emotions to gain any leverage over her.

          Do you believe in monogamous relationships?

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      • mystery7

        "Mature, heterosexual adults of different genders can't be friends. "

        Yes they can - as long as they are not sexually attracted to each other.

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  • snarkygirl

    If a guy isn't good looking he'd better be rich or funny( preferably all three)

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  • If they're not interested then don't spend money on them for dates. If they contact you just ignore or block their number. Try spend time looking for someone who wants to be with you rather than someone that wants your wallet.

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  • CountessDouche

    Ugh. Jesus. it's so retarded listening to people dissect their dating decisions with respect to some larger paradigm of men's vs women's rights. Just do whatever the fuck you want and try to find someone that will put up with your shit. It's no harder than that. Stop making it about politics.

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    • The "ugh Jesus" part I read with an Irish accent, you do look sorta irish, so...

      When you say "put up with my shit", do you mean the women I pay to have sex with, OR do you mean the women I pay to have dinner with, that I then have sex with?

      I thought you enjoyed politics, and an enthusiastic discussion. Hope you had a nice holiday. I do actually mean that, because I can tell you mean well.

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  • RainbowFlash

    I smell an MRA.

    You talk about how women treat men, but not how men treat women.

    You call disinterest in you as a problem, then refuse to respect someone's wishes and complain when she doesn't give you what you want.

    Tip: If someone doesn't want you, stop chasing them. Disrespecting someone just proves to them who you really are and they are not going to waste their time on you.

    Why don't you try being nice to people instead? That tends to work a lot better than selfishness and disrespect.

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  • richcollegegirl

    i just fucked my boyfriend....

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    • SkullsNRoses

      pix or it didn't happen

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  • howaminotmyself

    Equality does not mean to treat someone like a man. I'm not even sure what it means to treat someone like a man. Respect and equality should transcend gender stereotypes but people get caught up in stupid naratives. Have you never bought a male friend lunch? You are focusing too much on 50/50, that isn't very friendly.

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    • Yes! An elderly response to a random question. Your ideals are beautiful. I hope they come true.

      Social ideals, and ideas are wonderful on paper. Now, in a real life scenario. Well, that is a different arena altogether.

      Good, honest women are at a premium. You remember that. A good mother, such as yourself, needs to read this.

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  • wigz

    I go by the 'whoever asks pays' rule. Splitting bills and being cheap is such a turn off. How does it even make sense to invite someone out and then expect them to pay for anything? Ugh.

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    • Have you ever had to ask?

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      • wigz

        Yes, I have asked quite a bit and I paid when I asked.

        Back when my husband and I were dating, after the first couple dates when things got more casual we ended up taking turns paying. That's often how it goes...

        And it has nothing to do with equality, it's etiquette. If she wants to pay for herself she still can but don't force her to if you asked her out for fucks sake.

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        • You never disappointed honey bunny. I hope you're doing well.

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