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Following the racially-motivated massacre in Charleston, South Carolina, there's been a lot of protest against the Confederate Flag debating whether or not it's heritage (rooting from segregationist symbolism) is "Southern pride" or "hateful racism".
This ultimately brings up the discussion of the flags removal.
What do you think?
| Take down the flag. | 26 | |
| Keep the flag up. | 20 |
I know some great people who like the rebel flag, so not all of them are killers. However, the flag originated from racism and the subjugation of an entire race. Just read that quote by the flag's original creator; he specifically mentions the superiority of the white race.
It's not much different than a swastika. It belongs in a museum, not on top of a state Capitol building. We aren't the CSA anymore.
Well, when you come right down to it the Confederate Flag does represent heritage, it's just a heritage that's loaded racism.
I don't see how there's an argument when we have history books.
I more or less call SC home and the state is truly the best and worst place I've ever lived.
I've given this issue a great deal of thought, and I've come to the decision that removing the Confederate flag would not be much different from ISIS destroying all those historic walls and statues in Iraq's UNESCO World Heritage city of Hatra.
History and it's relics are a part of every culture and you can't just destroy them because it's politically uncomfortable or incorrect, at this time.
SC has come a long, long way since the war between the states. A great deal farther than any northern state has come, because they had a great deal farther to go.
One nut job does not a whole state make.
Do you really think this problem began with the shooting last week? I agree history should be remembered, but a flag associated with hatred and oppression of a large part of our country should not be flown proudly, especially by states or the government. Do you see swastikas all over Germany? No. It should be in a museum so that we can look at it and be like "wow, I can't believe the south was that racist yikes, glad its over".
Amen, brother. There are plenty of good people who like the flag and claim it only represents southern pride, but you can show southern pride without that flag. It has a very dark history and doesn't mean what they think it means.
And for people who ask what the flag has to do with this incident, the shooter was a frequent displayer of this flag. There are pictures of him posing everywhere holding a confederate flag. His license plate even had the flag on it.
After a discussion with some friends at dinner last night, some things which I would have no idea of, were brought to my attention.
The woman at whose house we were eating, was raised in West Virginia and on a Caribbean Island. She said that when in the states, her father had drilled into her (and he was born and raised in WV) that she should avoid anyone or any place of business displaying the stars and bars, on their home, car, clothing or even a belt buckle.
Not being a black person, I have never experienced any racism or hatred from anyone displaying the stars and bars.
I still find it hard to stomach banning ANYTHING in the US, but perhaps displaying what has become more a symbol of hatred than a political ideal, should not be done at any public institution.
I dunno man. It holds different meaning for different people. Many african americans see it as a reminder of racism but white people see it as freedom without racism. It's not supposed to be a racist symbol so I don't know. If they think it's still racist, they can take it down, I suppose.
This is a quote from William T Thompson, who was a creator of the Confederate flag:
"As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause.… Such a flag…would soon take rank among the proudest ensigns of the nations, and be hailed by the civilized world as THE WHITE MAN'S FLAG.… As a national emblem, it is significant of our higher cause, the cause of a superior race, and a higher civilization contending against ignorance, infidelity, and barbarism. Another merit in the new flag is, that it bears no resemblance to the now infamous banner of the Yankee vandals."