Can the beatles still be innocent?

OK, so we're currently going through the 50th anniversary of Beatlemania, so I thought I would make a poll.

The Beatles are often represented in culture as a cheerful, lovable band whose songs are all about peace and love. In this way, they are made to look innocent and kid-friendly, and indeed many kids enjoy their music. But any big fan of the band will know that they were very far from innocent, mainly due to their songs being riddled with drug references (even some of their early ones), their controversial public statements, the fact that they all went through terrible marriage problems (Lennon's divorce and abandonment of Julian) and how they ultimately turned on each other, especially John, who became very bitter in the end.

So, do you think the Beatles should retain their deceivingly innocent media image, or should the sad truth about their life be told to every new fan? Can they still be considered a kid-friendly group even though a lot of their songs were designed to get kids into drugs, and the fact that they became bitter towards each other after the death of Epstein in 1967?

Yes, they should be 14
No, they should not be 10
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Comments ( 26 )
  • CozmoWank

    "a lot of their songs were designed to get kids into drugs".

    Yes, their rise to fame was all a ruse, a well thought out conspiracy with the intent of getting children to use drugs. ::rolling eyes::

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    • But it was true, look at Yellow Submarine, a drug movie designed to teach kids about psychedelics, that was its purpose. The whole Sgt Pepper album was a message to kids/teens, telling them to get high and trip balls. They even promoted heroin in "Happiness Is A Warm Gun".

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      • CozmoWank

        And don't forget, if you play their albums backwards you can hear messages from Satan.

        Has it ever occurred to you that unless you weren't ALREADY familiar with drugs or drug culture, you wouldn't know what the hell they were talking about? So to say it was "designed to teach kids about drugs" is completely absurd.

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        • Tommythecat.

          "If you ever sat around playing your albums backwards..you are satan..don't look any further"

          -Bill Hicks

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          • CozmoWank

            Please allow me to introduce myself
            I'm a man of wealth and taste
            I've been around for a long, long year
            Stole many a man's soul and faith.

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  • i_will_not_eat_hats_again

    You need a better thesis.

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  • thr

    I wonder if you can substantiate your claim that "a lot of their songs were designed to get kids into drugs".

    Let it be up to the people who listen to their music. There is probably plenty of documentaries and books describing the history of the band, so if anyone wants to know about the good and bad sides of the musicians' lives, it will be possible to do so.

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  • bananaface

    Funnily enough, listening to A Day in the Life as I read this. I'm not sure their aim was 'to get kids into drugs', regardless of the references to drugs. You're being daft.

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  • dirtybirdy

    I am not innocent. You are not innocent. No one is innocent.

    Tool.

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  • JulianLennonIsFit

    These comments though. Haha WTF ^^^

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  • Pika-girl

    I like "All My Loving".

    ...What are we doing here again?

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  • blunder13

    True fans know what you are referring to...

    They are still fans!

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  • Grapist

    I guess. In my mind the beatles are sort of like Maroon 5 in that they started out as a more innocent lovey band that morphed into a harder less pop and more serious topics like drugs and sex. Except maroon 5 music is to teach kids into having sex as opposed to the beatles using drugs. The Beatles just get rated higher because they are from the 60s

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  • kawaiigurl

    john even said they initially formed a band to get groupies. but that doesnt make them any less genuine and protrude them as less passionate. they speak upon a lot of different topics. and the drug references are so subtle.

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  • sega31098

    No. NOBODY is innocent.

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  • dickwashington

    i think that they still remain innocent because all the old people that control the media now a days grew up listening to the beatles there for there cool with so thats how the rest of the world will veiw the beatls even though everybody know what they were up to with the drugs and all that does that make sense or am i stupid?

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  • thegypsysailor

    Wow, what a strange take on a music group.
    It seems almost everybody has marital problems and to single Lennon out is pretty simplistic.
    As for the drugs, it was a different time, with different social standards and many of the "drugs" they were using and writing about were perfectly legal. If you weren't alive then, you couldn't possibly understand the world then. Growing up under the threat of nuclear annihilation created a "live for today" (because you probably won't be alive tomorrow) attitude in the young people, which translated into a rather hedonistic, but necessary, view of life.
    Their "their controversial public statements" were at times only quips by giddy young men in the throws of a popularity that few, if any, had ever had before. John's statement that more people had heard of the Beatles than Jesus may have been politically incorrect, but it was absolutely, 100% true!
    Epstein's death was not responsible for any bitterness, as far as I remember, but John's death was a great tragedy to many world wide. I often wonder how different the world might be today, had he not been murdered.
    I doubt that anyone would class the Beatles as a band with a squeaky clean image, but rather as innovators and creative musical geniuses.
    "A kid-friendly group" or not, for a young person who appreciates music and wishes to immerse themselves in musical history, the Beatles are a must.

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  • jeebley

    I am the eggman@@@@@@@@@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • dirtybirdy

      oh? http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDMQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D7Htj0_4Job8&ei=sOP0UsasGOresASIpoLQAw&usg=AFQjCNH8cCgED-b3XLWbAw8d9RiKrc5kGw&sig2=rBrpDbQpmzIX0_PBwvn6Dw

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      • jeebley

        Ha...awesome. I have to retract my previous claim!!

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    • Freedom_

      I am the walrus! coo coo kachoo! Wanna see an octopus's garden?

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      • jeebley

        We'll take the yellow submarine and jam out with our clams out!!

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        • Freedom_

          *To Yesterday* Scrambled eggs...Darling how I love your legs. Not as much as I love scrambled eggs. We should eat some scrambled eggs... Waffle fries.

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          • jeebley

            ahaha!! "Like regular fries, but their shaped like a waf-fle" ...hehe I enjoyed that!

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            • Freedom_

              Everyone should know the true origin of 'Yesterday' haha! It's even more beautiful than the official lyrics.

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