Can't take it seriously

Art - Human effort to imitate, supplement, alter, or counteract the work of nature.

Using that as the definition, anime does count as art. It's a different style, than realism, but if anime isn't art...does that mean cartoons, realism, or surrealism isn't art either?

Anime's just the Japanese way of saying animation, and no matter how you look at it; animation is a form of art. You draw, and you try to recreate what you see in life. That's why Manga-ka's go and study anatomy, or actually take art classes.

Besides, I personally disagree with your opinion, but you could disagree with mine. Plus, I can't take people who use 'terrible', 'horrible', 'dreadful', 'ghastly', or 'awful' seriously. I burst out into laughing, no matter what the story is about. Like, "It was terrible! I was shoved down, and I fell in the mud. I-it was just horrible!!" I wouldn't be able to hear that with a straight face.

ANYTHING can me art. Most mainstream animes, made only to get more money, aren't, but there are some real pieces of art.

I can understand why an aspiring fine art student could reject anime as a fine art if all they knew of were kiddie shows like dragon ball, pokemon, and sailor moon. Though I should say that anything can be art, even if it doesn't seem to be very good. Cartoons, comics, anime, and manga are all art, they just don't yet have a very prestigious reputation.

Now if that is not quite good enough, I do have one surprise for you. Check this link out: http://www.moca-la.org/murakami/
It's a link to the Takashi Murakami exhibit that was featured at the Museum Of Contemporary Art in Los Angeles last year. It is a little crazy, but at least some of this stuff is undeniably art.

ChrisUFC -> you're mixin anime with hentai.
Anime is not porn, it's a normal movie, just drawn.

I don't know shit about anime, but I recently went to a modern art museum in Philadelphia. It was the dumbest shit I have ever seen. People throw some paint on a canvas or cut two things in half and glue them together backwards, call it art, and say it means something, then all the artsy douche-bags pretend they see its meaning. It is a fucking joke man.

Maybe i'm getting this wrong, but I think You're a young person, and don't understand what kind of art people find in anime.
It's not about the technicue of how it is drawn or rendered, it's the message it carries. Many anime movies have a message that is completely not understandable to kids, so they watch it just as some cartoon, without understanding what's going on.

... Im an artist. I draw anime & manga. It's my life. I am very outraged at this post.
ChrisUFC? WTF!?
What people don't understand about anime, is that it is 100%% art!!!! Have you actually looked at it you morons!? Do you look at the f**ing backgrounds!? The older versions were actually painted, the drawings are made with fine detail in some of them and the situations they're in consist of many art forms! How could you NOT see it as art!?!?!?!
If for some retarded reason you dont like it then dont dis it. Its definatly not for nerds or little kids. Thousands of teens watch beautiful romance ones. Theres comedy and horror and everything you could dream of. If you understood it like I do, you'd kill yourself for making that comment.
And yes its entertainment. But expression is something the japanese are strong in. Their music is so creative and everything they do has morals. They have strong expression in their animation. Animation; look it up in a dictionary. Its an art form. And what do you think anime is? Exactly.
And yes there are ones like Pokemon and stuff for kids and are crappy, but they are still art. Just crappy art.
I hope ive made myself clear. Dont stereotype things.. Its what i hate about humans the most.

It's pretty normal, I wouldn't consider it art either. It's just a poor form of entertainment which people get really obsessed with and defensive about. I'm going to assume your gonna get some nasty posts from anime fans saying that it's about the "story line" when here you are talking art.

Have you ever seen someone drawing anime? Why do you think artsy people love anime. Since it is a art. You have to draw it so yes it is art. All cartoons are art and anime is a completely different style of art. If you really do not think so why don't you try making some? See how difficult it is.

I had an art tutor who told me this, i'm an anime fan but ya know what I found out from them?

I asked them if I put a pen on a pedestal in an art gallery and called it art would people class it as art? they said yes. Why? Because art has no set rules or boundaries. everything is an art form in some way.

Anime takes skill to draw like all art forms and unlike alot of art (In my opinion) it's actually a good one.

You consider modern art to be art but you don't consider anime to be art? And besides, isn't anime just the Japanese version of cartoons? Do you hate cartoons too? And anime is a medium, not a genre, so it can be for anyone of any age depending on which show you are looking at.

I love anime, but I understand that some people don't like it and I'm not gunna go all "crazy ass psycho fan" on you ;) I like some of the drawings on stuff people do, on sites like deviantART, if you've heard of it. But I wouldn't really consider it art, just a pretty thing to look at.

soo, what does art mean?

Try watching Elfen Lied.

Anime is for the happy jappys and the freaks, soo not an art.

ANIME IS ART!!!! i draw it, i STUDY IT, I LIVE it. (along with sculpting and realism, anime is best!!)

i don't see the big deal about anime.
i knew some people who liked anime
and they made me sit through that
crap for a friggin half hour and MAYUNN
was i bored... i started playing with
the velcro on my runners. well it was better
than watching a 'capper bleed to death
over a cut to the knee.

do you consider cartoon as art? anime is just like disney cartoons just made by japaneeeez.

I used to feel that way about abstract art - until someone explained the point to me.

I like to consider myself an Otaku of sorts, not real hardcore. But I really don't discuss it with others unless it's something REALLY good that translates well to real life. I do realize that a lot of people just overlook anime as just a cartoon. Although I did convince one of my friends who doesn't like it to watch Lucky Star. He was traumatized.

I cannot STAND the majority of the Anime seies they produce, many are ridiculous, but the craftsmanship is unbeleivable.
I like sci-fi and robots and things, but I cannot STAND the crap theat they push in episodes of gundam, and I hate the way the mobile-suits 'fight' and so on, but if you take a freeze frame of one of those when they arent moving.
I mean, hell, somebody has gone in, and they've drawn the litte armour panels, the joints and servos, even teeny-tiny rivets and air vents. it's incredible!

The japanese can do so much with a brush and a pen. INCREDIBLE!

Is drawing an art? If you drew a picture of a monkey in the forest is that considered art? You're probably saying yes - well anime, or any other type of cartoon, is just drawings placed in quick succession of each other, that's all. And I've seen some pretty impression japanimation films where the landscape is breath taking and the shadowing is right on. I think it's a form of art.

Your full of shit. That's just rude. Anime is not only a type of art. Its a culture in most place's. Anime cos playing clothing is starting to become a fashion in Japan. Its not much to say that modern art is even art. I mean like come on. Fucking splattering paint against a easel is art?

anime isn,t technically art its foundation aka manga is manga is drawn out anime with words and scenes set out like a comic the only think art like about anime is unlike cartoons there is reason and purpose like a story line and values of daily life most are undetectable to Americans because there Japanese lessons. All and all tho if you take time with watching anime and i mean good anime not rushed and overrated dbz or naruto if you watch things like furi curi lucky star kiba or air gear you'll find many hidden lessons if you focus and there always compelling story so it is in fact art just much lighter art then manga

Anime not an art, ARE YOU SERIOUS! Its not for perverts and just children, anime for perverts is called HENTAI. ofcource its an art just as that abstract thing is, it takes time to master how to animate and draw in that style. You obviosly no nothing about anime so dont try and act like you do my saying its terrible so get your facts right!

Yeah, I understand get not being able to see anime as art. Art is all personal and an expression to a certain person. It would make sense for people to see it in different ways. I love certain types of anime, but other styles I just can't take seriously like you can't take any anime style seriously.

And Duchamp's "Fountain" was a urinal. What's your point? I go to Art School too, and while I can see where you're coming from, there is no fixed definition of what "art" even is. Just keep that in mind.

..if you can't spell.. stfu.

Modern art is hilarious, and if that can be considered art, then anime can as well.

As far as the otaku go.. (hardcoreanimefans)
I feel your pain.

I went to an anime convention for five days and left smoking cigarettes and hating anime for the next few years of my life.

But seriously, you shouldn't let people ruin things for you.

animai is for japs and pervs

BLEACH MANIAC WATCH BLEACHHHHHH. Sorry. Even porn can have messages. Todays vulgarities inneporably disorientate and distort those messages from having any influential concepts. Man those words are big

I really dont understand how people enjoy it I get sick watching it and what makes me sicker is the people (usually kids) who like it so much they start drawing it them selves and are just so into it they draw it everywhere and get all but hurt when people make fun of them for it, sounds to me like they set them selves up for that.

ok anime is sick to me its for japs not americans only perverts are into that crap and like to masturbait to it and crap i hate asian porn has it is so why would I like asian cartoon porn? Kids who watch the anime are becoming brainwashed dont you watch south park.