Blacks don't seem to like him.

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That black guy who is trying to be the republican candidate for President. Ben somebody. I have a few black friends and they don't like this guy. None of them. But they won't say why. Is this normal? A national political figure with little black support? Can anybody (a black person) tell me why? I hate to sound so racial. I am a non-racist white person. I'm just curious about this. It just doesn't seem normal to me. I'd like some African- American input please.

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  • billygoatgruff
    8 years ago

    You question expresses surprise that black people you know don't like another black person, as if black people should automatically like him because he is black. You also seem to believe that any random black person on the internet can tell you why your black friends don't like him, which would only make sense if you though all black people share the same thoughts.

    So yea, you are a bit racist.

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    • _Crusades
      8 years ago

      Be careful! You will wake up the white guilt in him and he might commit suicide.

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  • Forestheart
    8 years ago

    Election is not a puzzle game. The black people don't necessarily need to like the black candidates.

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    • Greasy_Spics
      8 years ago

      In 2008 the exact opposite happened.

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      • billygoatgruff
        8 years ago

        The numbers don't support that actually happening. In 2000 92% of African Americans voted for the Democratic Candidate, support was 88% in 2004, and 93% in 2008 for Obama. So he received support similar to other Democratic candidates.

        In terms of actual turn out, African American turnout rose just about 4 percentage points consistently from 96 to '00 from '00 to '04 and from '04 to '08. So Obama did really drive African American turn out.

        In fact according to the Census Bureau, the African American population in 2000 was 24.9 million and 37.6 million on the 2010 census. That is a population increase of roughly 50%. But in the 2000 election 12.9 million African Americans voted and in 2008 16.1 million voted. That is an increase of less than 25%, representing a total increase in voters well below the increase in population.

        So it terms of total voters vs total population, you could argue that more African Americans went to the polls to support Al Gore than Obama.

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        • Darktown
          8 years ago

          The numbers are always interesting. Blacks still don't go to the polls anywhere near as much as other groups. And as long as they keep voting Democrat, i consider it to be a good thing that they aren't all going to the polls

          i'm not sure you can definitively say that more blacks (proportionately) went to the polls for Gore than Obama without further analysis. I did a quick google search and got varying population statistics for blacks that seemed to conflict, so not sure which ones are really correct. But in any case, what matters is the population that is *eligible* to vote. Obviously anyone under 18 cannot vote. And since the biggest increase in black US population is coming from recent births instead of adult immigrants, its fair to say that the majority of the recent increase in black population is not eligible to vote.

          Therefore the actual number of eligible black voters in 2000 vs 2008 is probably roughly the same, maybe only slightly increased. (Just guessing, but i am sure it can be figured out). That would mean that an increase of about 3 million black voters nominally was in fact a huge increase in voter turnout relatively speaking as well. And that would make sense, since anecdotally it seems to be what we all remember happening in 2008.

          The more important point that is difficult to prove is why they voted for Obama. Even though it looks like that 90% number would have voted for any Democratic candidate, i believe there was a significant racial component in play. That is to say, in addition to his Democrat views and policies, i think that for many blacks it just became a very easy choice, easier than it would have normally been. The combination of him being liberal AND black really sealed the deal.

          I would not, however, say that skin color alone means anything. Ben Carson (Republicn) is black, but has virtually no black Democrat appeal. Thats solely because of his views and policies. But i think a lot of blacks would be eager to vote for him, if only he simply shared their political views, compared to an equal candidate the only difference being they are white

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          • billygoatgruff
            8 years ago

            The numbers I am using in both total population and total voters by race are all the official government numbers according to the US census and should be accurate within a reasonable margin of error. I didn't say that a population increase outpasing voter increase automatically equals a drop in participation, I only said one could use the numbers to make the argument if they wanted to. But is a very incomplete way of doing so because in addition to new ineligible births, it doesn't take in to deaths of previously eligible voters, or how many minors came of age during that time period.

            When everything is factored, in terms of elegible voters, there has been an increase in participation, which I already said in my first responce. But as I also said that increase was already happening at a consistent rate that didn't spike in 2008. This is the participation rates for eligible African American voters since '96...

            '96 - 53.0%
            '00 - 56.8%
            '04 - 60.0%
            '08 - 64.7%
            '12 - 66.2%

            So that rise is pretty consistent across the board with or without Obama. Also, when you say that African Americans never participate at the rates white do, in '12, only 64.1% of eligible white votes went to the polls vs 66.2% of eligible African Americans.

            While that still means that because of total population levels significantly more for whites that a lot more whites voted. But on terms of participation relative to population size African Americans participated at a higher rate. While African American participation has been steadily climbing, white participation has dropped off in each of the last two election cycles.

            If you would like to view the Census numbers, you can find them here...

            https://www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/p20-568.pdf

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  • Darktown
    8 years ago

    Its because he thinks like a rational, reasonable, intelligent (aka "good" person) so blacks reject him because they perceive him like an Uncle Tom, like a traitor, no different than a white man.

    Obama on the other hand is defiant, lawless, and angry (aka "bad"). Blacks perceive him as "one of their own", someone who refuses to do what the white man says.

    Of course all of this is complete bullshit. For starters, other than skin color Obama doesnt really share the same experience of blacks in America. None of his ancestors were slaves.

    Blacks only hurt themselves by resisting so much. In their quest to feel free, unchained, and defiant, they end up doing some really dumb shit. For example, they would rather be poor than rich, unhealthy rather than healthy, uneducated rather than educated, all just so they can feel defiant, not giving in to the white man.

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    • 53739
      8 years ago

      Agree, Ben Carson is a neurosurgeon. aka he is a smart dude. There is a deep sense of anti-intellectualism in black communities, no wonder they don't like him.

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      • DonaldTrump
        8 years ago

        They vote for the most handouts and whoever keeps that monthly welfare check fat and coming, plain and simple.

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    • [Old Memory]
      8 years ago

      Ben is also not promising them a social agenda. Aka "handouts"

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      • Darktown
        8 years ago

        Yeah. Gimme more whitey

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    • snarkygirl
      8 years ago

      Are you black?

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      • Darktown
        8 years ago

        Lol

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        • snarkygirl
          8 years ago

          Well your user name;)

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          • Darktown
            8 years ago

            The username is a reference to Currier & Ives cartoon series on blacks. Darktown was a real place many years ago. Look it up :)

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            • snarkygirl
              8 years ago

              I see:)

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  • snarkygirl
    8 years ago

    I like him better than most candidates... But I'm not black. I don't know if it's true or not, I just want a president who is smart and doesn't tell lie after lie.

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    • Darktown
      8 years ago

      They all lie. Except for Trump, he tells it like it is

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  • handsignals
    8 years ago

    It's not normal, every racist black asshole in America got behind OJ Simpson, they stick up for other niggas even when the nigga is a worthless peice of shit.

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    • Darktown
      8 years ago

      I think you mean to say they ONLY stick up for other niggas when the nigga is a worthless piece of shit.

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  • sega31098
    8 years ago

    For some reason I thought this was another "doctors hate him" style clickbait title.

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