Arizona and their border

In some ways I agree with what Arizonas governor has done. They have
repeatedly asked for help from the White House. They have not gotten
any answer from them at all. What are they supposed to do? Arizonas
people are in peril. Ranchers killed, property damaged etc...I believe
the politicians don't want to address it because of rampant political
correctness and they would lose votes. What do you think? Is it normal
for me to agree with what they've done?

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Based on 61 votes (45 yes)
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  • FreakyKing2

    The New Colossus:

    With conquering limbs astride from land to
    land;
    Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
    A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
    Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
    Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
    Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
    The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
    "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
    With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
    Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
    The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
    Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
    I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
    Emma Lazarus, 1883

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  • spen731

    I'm all for legal immigration, this country was founded by immigrants. The problem is that the illegal immigrants cause so many problems for everyone else, they ruin the economy, cost tax payees billions of dollars every year, and send money back to Mexico making America a poorer nation. Illegal immigrants should all be sent back and after they rake a few English classes and try to become a legal citizen they can come back, immigration needs to be regulated to keep control of crime and to control costs

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  • What have they done....

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  • With this bad economy that we are in right now, it would make a lot of sense for the government to hire several hundred people to be border police. Most of the problem is there at the border. After these people cross over our borders, they are almost for sure not going to be sent back by the government.

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    • Mastersash

      With our tanking economy you want to hire hundreds of people to stand around and wait for every Mexican to make an attempt to cross the border? Case in point: You're a moron which is proven by the FACT that you lack any common sense. You should check in with the rest of the South and count your blessing before we find out if there really is a God with a bag full of karma. Sorry kids, but with your piss-poor attitude and ignorant mentality it looks as though all the selfish brats will only be getting coal this year. Just thought I'd make one last note at the shocking stupidity run rampant on this blog.

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  • I think that all of America should have that law.

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  • fox

    Everyone should agree with it!!!!! WTF go to any other country. If your illegal you have no right to be here. Police have the right to ask for proof from anyone!!!!!! And if you disagree pay more taxes for these illegals. Right a check to the government , they'll take it.

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  • tori

    News.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100525/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_national_guard_border

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  • tori

    Thank you for your email. I struggled to decide if I should start this post because I knew what would have been posted. The silent majority will not be silent anymore. I have a friend who has a friend who is native American. He and his father applaud the Arizona law. His father fought in WWIi and was proud to do it. He wanted the U.S. safe. And still wants it safe. Obviously the haters of this law (that mimicks the fed law but won't enforce) do not live in Arizona. Arizona is the first stop to others. I may be called intolerant But we are tolerating this country away for votes.

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  • missbeas

    I think that our borders need to be closed. Anyone here illegaly stays and becomes a citizen. It should be harder to become a citizen and you should have to speak English to be here. I'm getting sick if having to push one for English. Every race is rasist in some way, but white peolpe are the ones you here about most. Whites don't have white pride days or white history months. I support arizonas law. I think more states should do something similar.

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    • tygeronherbed

      you are supreme idiot, you sound like a moron. you clearly are just as ignorant as you arrogant.

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  • mdy112

    I live in Arizona and this has affected too many things to even mention. Only if one knows how it is here and what has already become from this, can anyone truly understand the nature of this political decision. I don't comment much on these sensitive issues, but only wanting to bring attention to the simple statement, "you'll never know, until you've lived it". I've never seen people in such an uproar since I've moved here in '96, I'm 27 yrs old and seen my fair share of shit happen, but some people have got to get their heads out of their asses and handle this topic appropriately.

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  • MercedesBenz

    I agree with the above and mastersash. But dont be hating on Asian Americans. Alot of us came here after our countries were invaded by the trigger-happy American government after they decided to try and institute peace on our lands. Or they murdered thousands with their nuclear testing and the likes. For some AA's they were simply shipped here from their foreign country as a "favor" from the us government. Imagine being sent to a foreign land with nothing more than the clothes on your back and no knowledge of the language. Ten yrs later you get a job, have a family and life is good. But some ignorant white men telling you youre not good enough to be here. Well guess what-- your government sent alot of us here. Youre pissed at the wrong people. Be pissed at your government.

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    • Mastersash

      Okay, I don't know if you were reffering to me or not but I was NOT hating on Asians at all, that was someone else.. I actually support all races and equal opportunity- the same fucking lie we the were founded on but have yet to make a reality- oh ya, unless you're a white man..

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  • sdpride1

    Mastersash has managed to attach facts to opinion which together make most of u look like idiots. It cracks me up when people beef on mexicans bcuz they are here taking jobs. I don't see any white people in line for those jobs. Furthermore, if that's what pisses u off, then your pissed off at the wrong people. The Asians are the ones taking up all the civil service jobs, government jobs and hospital jobs. All the meanwhile bringing all of their senior citizen relatives here to live the rest of their days here at our expense. I'm 5th generation Mex-American, with 2 more generations behind me. My family has been here since the 1800's. What we are, are true americans. We work hard and obey the laws of this country. That still doesn't give me the right to decide who belongs here and who doesn't. Just follow the rules and be a good productive citizen. This country belongs to all people willing to follow the constitution

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    • thisoneguy

      If you have a problem with arizona's laws than your stupid. Obviously the majority ruled on it first of all and secondly why the fuck should i care how hard someones life is in another country americans lives are just as hard with the damn illegals taking jobs from REAL americans. I think arizonas law is too lean i think it needs way more bulking up and make it even stricter. I don't want another 9/11 cause if mexicans can do it you know al queda is able to as well!! NUFF SAID!

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  • sincity

    Arizona sucks!

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  • tori

    Why do some of the commentors mention white racist people?? Racism is in all races. Even within the same race. I don't care. You are here illegally and infringing on my rights. Come here legally. This country has bent over backwards for illegals. The politicians only want their votes. As far as I'm concerened they have thumbed their noses to the American citizens.

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  • Thetruthis

    Send them home with there children and let's us enjoy to fruits of our own labor.

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  • Ra1l

    If a white person is suspected of anything in Mexico, they make you show your passport. If your not there legally you are put in prison. They racial profile white people... why not show them the same respect?

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  • tori

    Back in the day there was Ellis Island. People had to go through a process to be allowed into this country. Screened for diseases and other things. My neighbor works for immagration. She's been trying to get her sister here, LEGALLY. I'm all for immigration, just legally. Arizona has a real problem with the violence that the Feds don't care. They can't follow their own laws and the American citizens are in peril. What are everyday people supposed to do? My soap box is so full but I'm tired of the crap that what we have to tolerate. American citizens do not have a voice anymore.

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  • Well said!

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  • tori

    Ok tyger, I was waiting for a racist comment from you. You go live in Arizona and deal with the drug cartel taking their war over the boarder to Arizona. You try to protect your ranch from the squatters and killers, the sensless acts of violence. Go my friend. You are the racist to even bring that up. I see it's in your meger vocabulary.

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    • tygeronherbed

      how am i being racist? i just said its racist for eva-whatever to be against immigration. thats fucked up. i dont care what you do, or about your ranch.... i just believe that anyone should be allowed to live wherever they want, and that love for ones country should not stop at the border. I think any violence thats happening is a tragedy, and i think you have a right for your shit to be protected, but the solution isnt to do as eva says and not "allow anymore immigrants into the country at all"
      America was built on immigration, and unless your parents are full blood native americans it means your family immigrated here too at one point, if you have a right to be here, so does anyone.

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  • I don't think we should allow anymore immigrants into the country at all... But that's my opinion.

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    • tygeronherbed

      you are an intolerant, racist, piece of shit.

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  • MercedesBenz

    IMO, people who come over illegally are a slap in the face to the people who go through years of HELL trying to come to this country legally to be a legit citizen. I wont get on my soapbox either because my story is a 5 year journey through multiple countries just trying to gain lawful citizenship.

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    • You wrote, "IMO, people who come over illegally are a slap in the face to the people who go through years of HELL trying to come to this country legally to be a legit citizen. I wont get on my soapbox either because my story is a 5 year journey through multiple countries just trying to gain lawful citizenship. "

      It is far worst than you think. The asian people get involved in marrages to come here and all the mexicans do is just get a job to get an ITIN number from the Social Security Office, from there Police will rarely hassle them as they are "Paying taxes" and working "legit" at a job.

      HOWEVER, when it comes time to pay taxes, they often will claim at least six people from Mexico to get every penny back and if they actually owe taxes, they just won't file. I've had numerous walk-outs of the tax office when I tell them that they get nothing back and that they owe. The sad thing is that, and I am being honest, 75% of them DON'T pay a dollar in taxes, they either claim exempt or claim six dependants on their W4 forms at work so no taxes are taken out during the year. Then when they are walking out, they curse me out like I'M the one who fucked them. As much as sometimes I would have liked too, I am required by the Oregon Board of Tax Practitioners to obey the laws and not pull "games" with others tax returns to help them.

      I truly feel bad for people like you suggested who struggle so damn hard to come here like the stories you know or even those that I personally know through my dealings with the asian culture.

      It personally saddens me when I find out that certain employers will sign fake Social Security numbers to hire the illegals or flat out don't care. I cannot tell you how many different returns I had to go through the whole process for an ITEN for the people even knowing EVERY SINGLE W2 that I saw had a Social Security Number on it. And doing those forms is a bitch and it sucks more when odds are they are just going to walk out anyways if they have to pay.

      Sometimes, I find it extremely hard NOT to be a racist, some of the fuckers who posted here before me certainly hate White people but it is apparently okay for them but not for a white person. For fucks sake, they should just go home.

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      • TheConsciousElectron

        Bud, it appears that you have a lot of time on your hands eh? You nearly just wrote 5 essays

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  • genro

    75 percent of Americans agree with AZ governers desicion....I'm first generation guatemalan and complety agree with this decision... I could get on my political soapbox but won't bore you..lol....

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  • It's Perfectly fine to agree.

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  • 6sixes

    @:Mastersash
    More jobs brings in money. People can't hold onto their money because that hurts the economy more. We need more jobs so that those people can buy things and circulate the money. So, yes, hiring a bunch of people to stand around and protect from non-tax-payers is a VERY good thing. And btw, God doesn't exist.

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  • tygeronherbed

    um, you are all immigrants and i can tell you right now, no one on the fucking mayflower had a green card to come here. you don't deserve to be one this land anymore then any other immigrant. and when the white people came they wiped out an entire race, killing and raping the indigenous people until there were barely any left.

    you just think because your white and "american" you're entitled to some sense of superiority. well people are people, no matter what color they are or where they come from.
    if you have a problem sharing the wealth of our nation, sharing the rights to education and freedom we all get to enjoy, then you dont really know what it means to be an american.

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    • Mastersash

      Why is tyger the only one to comment one this post with any fucking common sense? You all are morons for seeing this as a white country when it was founded by people who were killed off everyone that is here?? They only difference between the Native Americans in the Southern States and the Mexicans across that border we drew up is a LINE that separates the same group of people who are of Aztec/Mayan descent!! Every person with brown/darker skin (not the white Mexicans from Spain, Italy, etc.)200 miles south of Los Angeles/Pheonix/where ever are what's left over of the real Native Americans! THAT IS A FACT AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T AGREE IS UNEDUCATED! The only reason why they are still there is because Spain only managed to make it about half way across, killing every Native around until they failed and the English finished the job up North! Check it, almost everyone on the East side of South America is white and it's RARE to see a dark person. In Uruguay everyone has blond hair and blue eyes!In Brazil it's different. The Native Americans in Santa Barbara and across/below are the same group of people in Mexico!! The problems that their country is having stems from a long line of corruption and being undermined by the real foreigners who have stolen everything that they could possibly own for themselves! Their country is suffering from a failed attempt to eradicate all the original people and is left with a government THAT SOLD (STOLE, CONSIDERING THE PEOPLE RECEIVED NONE OF THE MONEY) MORE THAN HALF OF MEXICO'S LAND, INCLUDING ARIZONA, WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT!! Ever since Europeans jumped on their high horse of Manifest Destiny, the only true Native's of this land have been persecuted, prosecuted, killed and denied because all of the Native White people don't realize the THEY WEREN'T HERE FIRST! In a country that has been practically abandoned by any sort of compromise, of course it has evolved into a third world country with many many issues, but at the end of the day there are millions of people who are hard-workers and only want the best for their families. You act like all the mothers and children down there suffering in terror bc of these crimes don't even exist when really they are trapped! WHATEVER MAKES ALL OF THE AMERICAN-BORN IDIOTS BELIEVE YOU HAVE MORE OF A RIGHT TO SAFETY AND FREEDOM BECAUSE YOU WERE LUCKY ENOUGH TO BE BORN 100 MILES NORTH OF THAT BORDER SHOULD BE DEPORTED BACK TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD WHERE YOU REALLY CAME FROM! I'd love nothing more than to see all of you break your backs bending over for hours on end just to feed your families, all the while being HATED as an ILLEGAL ALIEN, just so you ignorant,selfish bastards can enjoy that fruit and vegetables you eat everyday. I'd really like to know who's going to do all the bitch work for us that Americans are to high and mighty to ever resort to, even with a tanking economy brought forth by a President that we voted for!

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      • This deserved its own comment. Yes, it is true that the Mexican people had to fight off Spain and somewhat of France to a littlier extent for their freedom, fine. It is also true that WE ALSO had to fight a superior power for our freedom.

        Britain at that timeperiod was a stronger nation than Spain was as well and we had to fight against extreme odds for our freedom. Yes, it is true that the French eventually helped but we fought against the superpower at the time for our freedom.

        Hell, spain tried to attack England once (Spanish Armada, look it up) but they were too badly disorganised and flat out awful at their offense and a storm damaged the majority of their fleet. We fought against the power that defeated the same fuckers you all seem to be proud off and won.

        The jobs that Whites don't want, I want. I signed up to work in the strawberry fields and I also signed up for the Alaskan fishery job on a boat. Out of fifty people who showed up to apply, only ONE, thats right, FUCKING ONE, showed up for that job and I cannot imagine a job harder than 16+ hours a day, seven days a week doing heavy work on a sea vessel that rocks to the waves. Can you?

        Seriously though, I already wrote an appology for foreigners in the past but I take it back if you fuckers think its for you as well. EVEN ON THIS VERY PAGE, YOU FUCKERS GO ON AND ON about jobs we don't want or how your race was percecuted and blah blah blah. GET OVER IT, we were too and when we got off the boat, AMERICA WAS NOT MADE YET. We had to work hard to build it.

        Lastly, lets end this shit once and for all. If you fuckers are such hard workers and "holier than thou" over us, then why don't you fix your own fucking country instead of draining resources from mine to send to yours. If your people are so great, why don't you all work together and build Mexico better than what we have here in the United States?

        And don't say the United States is holding you back either. The United States sends countless aid in helping your country like free electric and technology and Mexicos greatest export to this day is labor, labor from assholes like yourselves who come over, start working and then send money home. Sad thing is, we are so bad of a nation that we not only let you fuckers send money out of the country (Germany doesn't) but we give you fuckers tax write-offs for doing so.

        BEFORE YOU BITCH ABOUT ME BEING BORN HERE, I WAS IN VIETNAM AND I LIKED IT ENOUGH THERE TO WANT TO RETIRE THERE, it over there is like Mexico but without a country to steal from like you do.

        Fuckers, now I am pissed. Stupid ignorant assholes with a superiority complex and thinking the world OWES you, try working for it and not leaching off of the system for a handout.

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      • This was too long so I had to put it in a few parts, sorry. I didn't recorrect what I wrote so my starting maybe a little off on my talking about my writing length.
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        I wrote quite a bit on this one bashing the hell out of Tyger and the rest of them but it is rather pointless and just pissed me off so I will keep this short. I went on and on how Mexicans don't really pay taxes and how much they take from our government, the whole REFUSALE to learn English and their high-and-mighty bullshit ideology that we must respect and work around their believes when they are so damn unwilling to assimilate our way.

        I then went on and on about the bigoted dumbshits like Tyger and you about how they were here first and yadda yadda but you too clearly will only see things your way. So to break this down into a shorter manner, enjoy what I write below.
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        They were here first: Yeah and so what, we as the European Nations brought over technology, ideologies and ideologies. If it wasn't for the European colonist settling here, the dumbass natives would still be doing human sacrificing and have no concept of modern living such as entertainment, education, medicine, and science. They still would be hunting Bison in select areas and living in their native housing with no concept of personal growth.

        We fucking died setting here. Our forefathers faught and died to secure this nation and with that comes responsibilies. After getting the land, they fought even harder developing the technology we have and worked hard in creating this nation. This nation wasn't great on its own, it took decades of hard fucking work and sacrifice to make the US what it is. Mexico has mostly the same resorces but without the United States, they would STILL be back in the early development stages of nation building and they were settled around the same time.

        We just didn't come over the border and milk the system like Tyger's parents did. For fucks sake, those bastards are too good to even mingle with those who are citizens in the US but instead will continue to speak that god awful language of Spanish (WHICH ISN"T THERE FUCKING NATIVE PEOPLE'S LANGUAGE ANYWAYS, that langage came from Spain.) and through commerse, kinda forced US to accomedate THEM for their lack of any motivation to change.

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          Here I go on a rant again, fuck it. WHen it comes to taxes, those fucking foreigners from below write off their entire family down below the border as dependance and they can do all of this by filing for ITINs. So in the end, not only do they not pay taxes but with all of their "dependances", they often GET MONEY BACK. They aren't paying for our police or schools much but they sure in hell will outbreed and take more of the services than we will.
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          IF NOTHING ELSE, they are so god damn upset and bitch non-stop about the White person getting them down and holding them back but just look at Tyger here, she has bitched continuously about how others hate this and don't show tolerance when she won't do anything to even support her ideas. If it was just one skank, her, doing this I wouldn't care but it is the vast majority of them.

          Why do I as a White male have to put up with all of the bigoted shit flung my way but they cry when someone calls them a Beaner, how the fuck is this fair? They didn't earn the right to be here and although I personally didn't create this land, I would struggle hard now to do so if needed and desperately look for ways of doing so.

          Oh wait, I can't a job as I don't speak Spanish to accomidate those fucktards who ARE TOO GOD DAMN LAZY TO LEARN ENGLISH OR EVEN CAPITALIZE A SENTENCE.

          (Hind note, I did very well on my latest job interview so I think I am employed, but my point remains.)

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