An unbiased discussion on marriage

Everyone is the first to admit that polygamy is Harmful and shouldn’t be legal.

But what about Marriage?

Fact- All divorce is caused by marriage. No ifs ands or buts.

Unless we release People from the burden of marriage, people will continue to divorce, yell at their Husbands and Wives, and hurt those around them.

By taking measured steps to protect People from marriage, they can live free of divorce lawyers, nagging spouses and can lead happy and productive lives.

Why do we lay this burden on an already burdened people?

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  • anti-hero

    How is that unbiased?

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    • flutterhigh

      An Unbiased Discussion on Cookies
      by: Flutterhigh

      Cookies are fucking disgusting, what the hell. If I wanted to eat rat turds in stale biscuits I'd go to a Vietnamese restaurant. Fuck cookies. Why do we lay the burden of cookies on an already burdened people?

      *photo of rotting moldy cookie with a severed head next to it*

      The End

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      • Shackleford96

        Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

        I think you are finally gaining some of your mojo back on here :)

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      • Captain_Kegstand

        This made me laugh, a lot!

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      • anti-hero

        Nice :) I love Vietnamese food though.

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        • flutterhigh

          I do too, nothing personal. And I love cookies. So much that I might as well...

          ...marry them.

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          • anti-hero

            That makes me think of Danish wedding cookies.

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    • nobleserpent

      That's a great question, Parish.

      You see because half my friends grew up in divorced house holds and an equal amount didn't, I can see this issue from an Impartial Perspective thus qualifying me to form educated and valid opinions on this important issue.

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      • dalmationUntoyourSoul

        exactly half? but seriously, people have the choice to get married, and the choice to get divorced. how would it be any different if someone just lived with their boyfriend for 30 years and had kids and then decided to split?

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  • iEatZombies_

    Outlawing marriage isn't going to stop people from being unhappy.

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    • nobleserpent

      True, but that's like saying, "Well dusting the House won't keep it clean so we might as well not do it at all"

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      • iEatZombies_

        That would be relative to "Marriage leads to divorce, but does that mean you shouldn't do it?"
        Also, I don't dust. Much like marriage, it's a personal preference. I wouldn't impose on anyone else to stop their dusting ways.

        Also, you didn't respond to my question below.

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        • nobleserpent

          Great so because you didn't agree with my post you felt the need to dislike it?

          Real mature, iEatZombies_.

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          • iEatZombies_

            When did I state my disliking your poll?
            Actually, I did like this poll. I found it refreshing to what I've seen here lately.
            I don't agree with your views, but I certainly respect them.

            Still, where did you get the idea I disliked your poll?

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            • nobleserpent

              Why thank you iEatZombies_.

              I love you to

              Also- You never responded to my response!

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  • FrancoisDillinger

    I think people should be allowed to do whatever the fuck they want

    as long as it doesn't hurt or unwillingly involve other people.

    Stay out of my space and i'll stay out of yours.

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  • dappled

    By the same logic, death is caused by life. So we should ban life.

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    • charli.m

      He's already done that one.

      http://isitnormal.com/story/life-the-cause-of-death-118738/

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      • dappled

        Ahh, yes. I commented on that one. :)

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    • flutterhigh

      But life is also caused by death.

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      • dappled

        I don't know if this is metaphysics or just some talk about vampires. You and your sneaky short answers.

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        • flutterhigh

          Look who's talking, bub.

          No, it's my thoughts on the grotesque beauty of life. All living things provide fuel for other living things, so life is the fuel which consumes itself. Life is caused by death. Life IS death, really. So to summarize, I am being a pedantic asshole.

          Divorce, on the other hand, does not feed on married couples - regardless of what 90s standup comedy tells you.

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          • iEatZombies_

            We'll ban life AND death. Hmm?
            God I'm a genius.

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  • howaminotmyself

    You don't have to be married to suffer the loss of a failed relationship.

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  • Angel_in_a_Glass_Dress

    "Everyone is the first to admit that polygamy is Harmful and shouldn’t be legal."

    Actually there's quite a large polyamory community out there.

    But the main problem is... you have a bias against marriage.
    If it's not for you then fine don't get married. Don't drag everyone else into your personal decisions.

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  • Damn you Management!! Stop approving my Threads when I'm asleep!!

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  • GuessWho

    Looks like the gold members are taking to trolling again...

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    • nobleserpent

      Sharing my opinion makes me a Troll?

      Well anyway, I doubt any of you has the ability to disprove me on this one.

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  • auzzie

    In most western countries these days the breakup of a long term defacto relationship has the same legal, emotional, monetary and custody issues as a divorce.
    A rose by any other name.....?

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  • dytrog

    Marriage can be financially beneficial.
    Need for love not required. Just respect.

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  • Francophile22

    LOL 'everyone' is against polygamy? I don't think your premise is accurate.

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  • tehfoxyfire

    hey:) just one more question why did you introduce polygamy what purpose did it serve in this argument?

    WAs it to juxtapose one and the other?

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  • tehfoxyfire

    Its because of pressure. Social pressure to get married. I mean, you see all your friends get married, have kids...etc and meanwhile the whole "your biological clock is ticking, get married soon" is more and more imminent that you succumb to this ridiculous notion of marriage with any person you stumble across and settle for. Alot of people live unhappy lives because they think "this is it, or nothing"

    Marriage is already firmly established, as a legal contract, as an ideal vision, and as a reinforced fallacy for many.

    But yes i do agree that, personally, i believe marriage and kids hinder one's ability to be the best you can be, career-wise

    how many times have you heard someone say "I was going to do "X" or be "x" or could've been this, but instead i had a baby, got married"...etc

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  • charli.m

    "An Unbiased Discussion on Marriage"

    "Last time I checked I called for a Non-Biased discussion and seeing as how you're married, you're clearly biased on this Topic.

    I want to hear what disillusioned, Unbiased divorced people have to say about this. "

    Unbiased...

    You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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    • nobleserpent

      Divorced people have seen -both- sides of marriage.

      Thus since Marriage no longer affects them, they are Unbiased.

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  • KeddersPrincess

    If one doesn't believe in marriage then just don't get married. Making it illegal is pretty extreme, and not everyone divorces anyways. Some people stay together for the rest of their lives. Some people don't even marry because of love. There's plenty of people who marry simply because of finances, and personally, I don't see anything wrong with that. Now, I'm not a huge believer in love and marriage, myself, but we can't stop other people from doing what they want to do. If you don't like marriage, then just don't get married. It's as simple as that. If you ask me, I'm not even against polygamy. If people want to do it, then they should be allowed to. It would just be more difficult financial wise.

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    • nobleserpent

      What is extreme?

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      • KeddersPrincess

        Making it illegal. I mean, if you don't want to get married, then don't get married. That's your choice but you can't take the choice away from other people. If it leads to their unhappiness, then that's their call.

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        • nobleserpent

          No no. What -is- extreme?

          You apply that term to my Theory but what is "extreme" in itself? How do you define it?

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          • KeddersPrincess

            Well, whatever extreme, ridiculous, unnecissary, uneeded...you get my damn point!

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            • nobleserpent

              You don't understand. Let me explain it for you-

              What's extreme to the Russians is not extreme to Germans and what the French consider to be very reasonable would be utterly absurd to an American or Mexican.

              If you can't define what extreme or ridiculous then it seems kinda silly to say my idea is Extreme.

              Heck, that would be like saying, "That guy's a bibulous philanderer" when you don't even know what Guy means.

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  • jondoerandom

    So.. alright, I agree, marriage is a failure and artificial institution. But -when you post something like this you have to offer a solution. What do you propose?

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  • Sucks when someone points out how absolutely irrelevant you are doesn't it? Yes..the fact that many people have lived their entire lives married...does point out how absolutely ridiculous this thread is. You may now delete again.

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    • nobleserpent

      Many people live their entire lives smoking and don't die of Lung Cancer.

      Does that mean it's a good idea to smoke?

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  • Haha..I should have left all three of those re posts up. Would've taken you longer to censor.

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  • Finding_Peace_In_A_Mad_World

    What happened to unbiased?

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  • Captain_Kegstand

    Divorce is caused by marriage, no. You have to be married to get divorced, but marriage is not the cause.

    You call for an unbiased discussion, but you immediately start with marriage being a burden, me thinks you have had a bad marriage? I grew up in a divorced home, so do I get to have an unbiased opinion? How can you outlaw marriage? Are we going to start outlawing breathing because sucking pollutants causes the burden of cancer? Would you like to outlaw driving because it causes the burden of crashing? How about drinking because of the burden of liver problems?

    You can't just go around making things that you don't like illegal or you end up being a dictator.

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    • nobleserpent

      Whoa whoa! Calm down. I think if you'd just simmer down a little bit, you could see that I was Right.

      But you can't. Because you're Upset.

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      • Captain_Kegstand

        Lolz i'm not upset at all, just stating my opinion. You can't outlaw things just because they don't work for you. Also, you can't start an unbiased discussion with a biased description.

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  • NocturnePonyFan

    "All divorce is caused by marriage." You don't say?

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    • nobleserpent

      I do say! ;D

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      • nobleserpent

        I feel like you guys don't really understand what I'm saying.

        Let me explain it better-

        A = Marriage
        B = Conflict
        C = Divorce

        A = B (no refuting that one)
        B = C

        Thus A (Marriage) = C (Divorce)

        I'm not saying it's impossible to not have your Marriage lead to divorce, I'm just saying it's not quite Possible.

        Oh and I've never been married.

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  • Never getting married. I'm never going to willingly get myself in to a situation in which a woman can take my earnings due to divorce.

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  • blaster

    Ha,probly will be against the law one day, like everything else, for our own good- to make life easier and to save the Gov money - somehow. Give it another 50 yrs. By then we'll need a permit to speak.

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  • Dad

    Well firstly that was not an unbiased IIN question.
    If anything its biased to people wanting to get married.

    I've always said that the marriage ceremony is for the bride. I mean guys do care and all, but all this money and romantic getup and months of planning and all those fine details, I mean most men (generalized) start to wonder what they really got themselves into!

    So, you want to outlaw the brides day?
    You haven't had much to do with women hey? I mean even it rains, someones going to pay up big time. But making it illegal? Oh dear, you'll finally see the real power of a woman. They can knock the strongest guys down just on words alone.

    Best you apologize now, before you dig an even deeper hole.

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    • nobleserpent

      See my response to wigsplitz.

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      • Dad

        ok read it.

        I'm divorced, so there you go.
        By the way, re-read your own original question. Its leading from the word go, towards what a 'bad' thing this is.

        So the question itself required just a tad more neutralized aspect to it. Don't mention everyone hates polygamy, don't say burden or nagging etc etc. It really needed to be toned down to get the ideal response you wanted.

        The first reply even questioned your biased viewpoint.

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        • nobleserpent

          Yeah well I'm the King of Egypt but my saying so doesn't make it reality.

          The only way I'll believe you're Divorced if you give me Full Documentation of it, along with Photo Copies.

          Oh and a court writ telling me this is legit.

          But you can't, can you? And that's because you're not divorced.

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          • Dad

            ok I'll word that in a way that doesn't get deleted then!

            Well you asked for a 'divorced' person's opinion and I gave it.
            The legal official papers are somewhere deep in a box in my room, haven't seen them for years!

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            • nobleserpent

              You can't be serious. You and I both know those Papers don't exist.

              Do you always tell lies?

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  • iEatZombies_

    Will you marry me, OP?

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    • nobleserpent

      A Snake and a Zombie...Our love can never be.

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      • iEatZombies_

        All true love stories do end in tragedy.
        :'[

        I shall remember you always the way you were before that fateful night.
        <3

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  • Engaged to my jizz then marry my penis and divorce my balls!

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    • Yumazing

      And cheat with your asshole?

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      • Ha!

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  • bananaface

    Firstly, how is divorce caused by marriage? Yes, you need to be married first before you can divorce, but that still isn't a cause.

    I personally disagree and think that marriage should be legal. I'm the same as you in the sense that I'm not a huge fan of marriage. I like that not getting married gives you the freedom to just leave a dead relationship without the additional hassle and pain, which you would get during a divorce.

    However, you can't tell people what they can and can't do over something like marriage, which really doesn't cause that much harm. Yes, a divorce is painful, but so is any break up! You gonna make break ups illegal as well?

    Also, a looooot of businesses would fail, so this doesn't just effect couples. It effects caterers, and bridal shops and even the holiday business(honeymoons).

    Marriage is very important to a lot of people, and just because you don't want to get married, that doesn't mean that everybody else shouldn't. Some people feel closer because of it, like they're part of a team, let them! So, I don't think it should be illegal, I just think people should take the decision of getting married more seriously.

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    • nobleserpent

      You can't deny that if there were no marriage there would be no divorce. It springs eternal from that source.

      I think it's time we Lifted this burden from the shoulders of the people.

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  • wigsplitz

    Then lobby the mega-billions insurance companies, retirement and investment companies, and any other such company to provide for and take into consideration 'girlfriends/boyfriends'. Good luck with that.

    Marriage gives rights and relief under the law. It also is important in itself to most people who get married. So what if people get divorced?

    Why be against marriage when it can give so many benefits, why not argue for banning divorce? It makes more sense.

    Really, neither argument makes any sense. Leave it alone.

    If you don't want to get married then don't, don't take away other people's right to. You never know which of the % of couples who get married will get divorced, so how can you logically ban it all together?

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    • nobleserpent

      Last time I checked I called for a Non-Biased discussion and seeing as how you're married, you're clearly biased on this Topic.

      I want to hear what disillusioned, Unbiased divorced people have to say about this.

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      • Captain_Kegstand

        Divorced people are just as biased as married people on this topic, just biased to support your thesis.

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      • izakthegoomba

        If you consider that to be a cause of bias, you're never going to have an unbiased discussion.

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