American sniper guy not a hero

I don't think Chris Kyle should be called a hero for murdering other humans. Whether or not hes killing the "enemy"...who are are someone's son, father, friend. Nobody is all good or bad. If a random guy shot 100 people hed be called a serial killer. Working for the government makes it OK apparently

A hero is someone who saves lives not takes them. Dotors working in Africa with AIDS and TB victims are heroes. People who foster unwanted children are heroes. Firemen who go back into a burning apartment to save a dog are heroes. NOT murderers.

"He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword" certainly was true in his case cause he ended up getting killed by a man with a gun.

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  • And if a person killed 100 people, which those 100 people would go on to harm or kill others, would that not constitute as saving future lives?

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    • wistfulmaiden

      I see both your points.
      On one hand, maybe some of those guys would have done terror acts. On the other, maybe not all of them were that bad (who gets to make that judgment anyway as to who deserves to die?). Killing is killing.

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      • I can also see your view and I'm not sure if we'd be able to get one another out of our views. I think it's good that we have people that think murder is wrong regardless but I also think it's good we have those that will take the needed measures to ensure future lives are spared.

        If someone is killed by another person who was not known to harm other people, then I would agree. That's wrong. However if it can save more lives by taking away the life that would put other lives at risks, I can also agree to that. :)

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        • wistfulmaiden

          I agree with that cerebrally :)
          I know I could never be the one to do it, though!

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          • And we love ya for it. ;D

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  • Spankz

    You do realize these weren't "random" people he was killing, right? The city in which he was deployed had been evacuated and all of the citizens remaining were working for terror groups or at least in conjunction with them. The people in which he murdered were responsible for hundreds if not thousands of civilian deaths. He did not kill without justification.

    The troops were in that area of the world to liberate them from terrorist groups such as Al-Qaeda who killed innocent civilians for no reason. Special task force teams such as Seal Teams, JTF2, etc. were not deployed into crowded city centers and unleashed upon the civilians. The people he killed were highly researched terrorists OR people that threatened the mission. I don't know if you know the agenda of groups such as ISIS or Al'Qaeda, but their goal is to eradicate the world of all other religion apart from Islam. They do not even practice their own religion properly, as Islam is meant to be of peace and serenity.

    Killing 100 innocent people would be a crime. But, these people were not innocent. They rape and murder women for sport, employ children to sacrifice themselves in car bombings and suicide bombings. As with any war there are civilian casualties, but do you want ISIS and Al'Qaeda over here? No, you don't. To them you are an infidel and deserve to be slain in your bed (that's their words, not mine). You don't worship the Qu'ran, therefore your life is insignificant.

    If you do not wish to consider him a hero, that is fine. But undermining the work that these gentlemen are putting in overseas is a little ignorant. Terrorist groups are the true evil of the world. They live with no morals and believe that no one is equal to them. Military groups are deployed over there to ensure that the problem does not spread to the rest of the world. They're trying their hardest to keep the problem isolated.

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  • anti-hero

    Snipers in general aren't heroes. Neither are suicide bombers.

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    • anti-hero...you would know, with the name

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  • zsdworknman

    If you want to use perspective than think of another counties soldiers invading and occupying your country kicking in your neighbors doors all on false pretenses would you not fight to keep your freedom from these invaders I think you would. That's what happened and one of the occupiers kills over a hundred people trying to protect they're homes yet he is the hero kinda ass backwards to me . Btw my little brother served as a marine saw gunner 3 tours in Iraq and 1 in Afghanistan just for perspective.

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    • That's how I see it.

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  • MangoTango

    hmmmm, I get all your points. I got to agree with you. He was just doing a job he was trained for. I'm neutral. I mean, he was probably killing thugs. I never paid much attention to the story. I pay attention to the trailer to the movie because Bradley Cooper is hot. This movie is about real events that are supposed to be all sad. I think I'll remain innocently ignorant. I'm sick of this kind of news. Just being honest.

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  • green_boogers

    It seems to bother you that snipers don't act on warm fuzzy feelings for people in danger. So what? We need executioners to protect innocent people. This guy was exceptionally good at his job.

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    • Rather than " hero" I think it should be called a necessary evil".

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      • green_boogers

        I would agree with "mitigator of evil". It takes a bit of compassion to prevent terrible acts of violence in the future.

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  • Sog

    He wasn't just killing random people like a serial killer. These were enemies on the battlefield who wanted to kill us as much as we do them. If we don't take the opportunity to kill them, then they will certainly kill us first.

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    • But we were in Their land... I don't wanna start a whole other discussion here but I feel we didn't belong there anyway.

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  • RoseIsabella

    If killing these people saved American lives then he's a hero in my book. Ya'll can think what you want, but I stand by this statement.

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  • ALESTORM

    Well you see that's a matter of opinion and perspective as he was just doing his duty.

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    • ... That's what the Nazis said though

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      • ALESTORM

        True but everybody is entitled to an opinion even a nazi.

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        • *shrugs* I guess

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  • Fall_leaves

    Kill or be killed, if you miss your target you and your team are dead and so are hundreds of other innocent lives. We don't live in a world where peace exists, there will always be someone that would kill off people just because they can. Hitler, Stalin, the genocide in Rwanda, and now Isis. You can't gamble when it comes to people's lives.

    Men and women sacrifice their lives for your safety, we live in an age of constant alert, nuclear weapons, biological threats, etc. Snipers save more lives than they take away.

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    • If that's true humans are a sad species.

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  • I've been meaning to pick up this guy's book recently in order to come to my own conclusions about him, but not a single library in my county has been able to keep him on the shelves (the film, I hear, is inaccurate and doesn't capture his true character very well). I'm sure as hell not wasting Amazon credits to get his little book - I'll just wait until the hype dies down.

    As for a serial killer not being viewed sympathetically, in America, that is especially true if his victims are white. If he only killed people of Semitic, Arabic, or Pakistani descent, I guarantee there would be people in America that would view him as a hero (especially if his victims were either Muslims or some group that 'looks like' what Americans perceive Muslims to be (i.e. Hindus, Sikhs, Baha'is, etc.).

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