Would you force/sneak your s/o to take medicine they need?

My husband of 2 years has Manic episodes and Bipolar disorder, he’s prone to just doing something or deciding things on a whim or just getting up and going on some trip across the country. He’s always been harmless lol, just spontaneous.

But he refuses to take his meds that bring him back down to earth, so I just sneak them into his food.

I don’t feel any guilt doing this because part of living with someone with any kind of mental situation you kinda learn that sometimes you have to get pushy when you know it’s for the best for them.

Am I wrong?

Yes, only if they physically need it 4
Yes, if they mentally/physically need it 13
Yes, even if it isn’t “needed” 1
No, I could never sneak/force anything 8
I wouldn’t date someone who needed that 5
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  • You're robbing him of his right to informed consent by spiking his food like that. I'd be a little pissed if someone did that to me.

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    • Mrown

      I don't think the consent matters that much if he's mentally ill and can't think clearly about what's good for him

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  • Tealights

    Basically, you're his safety-net. When he falls, you catch him. Or in this case, when he's off his meds, you keep him in check until he can do it himself. I think it's fine, because it sounds like he already has medications that works well for him, but the effects wear off too fast.

    My suggestion: Establish a rule with him.

    When he's medicated, tell him the truth and why you do it. Once he understands and gets his feelings about it out, ask if it's okay that you continue to be his safety-net. Along with that, have him carry a timer with him that will remind him to take his meds on his own (if you guys haven't done this already).

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    My two cents about this is I get what everyone is saying about consent and all that, but you're his wife (or husband maybe????). You're doing what's best for him and his well being. It doesn't make sense to let a sick man remain sick. Although, I'm still all about letting him know what you're doing, because you don't want him thinking he's getting out these manic episodes alone somehow, that may prompt him to become more lacks with taking his meds or thinking he doesn't truly need them.

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    • I sincerely appreciate this response. Your first paragraph is exactly what I’ve been trying to get across. Thank you.

      Your final statements also are important to me, I’ve been thinking and I believe that him taking control of his own mental health is the best way for him to cope and exist happily.

      While I’ll always be there to catch him if he falls, I need to put my efforts into helping him gain a secure footing.

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      • Tealights

        There you go, you two got this.

        Also, to relate to your husband, taking medication is weird, especially if you're still fairly young (20's - 40's, and sometimes 50's). Like many of us expect to take those exaggerated cocktail of meds as seen in tv shows when we're 70+, but when it starts sooner than what we expected, a lot of us tend to feel like failures or that we're defective. It might be hard for him to admit it, but try talking to him about how he feels about being on medication to begin with and his condition overall. I know he has a therapist, but maybe sharing this with you could be a huge improvement, especially if he knows how much you love him despite his mental health so he doesn't feel like a burden.

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    • Ellenna

      You make excellent points about OP letting him know what she's doing. It's also occurred to me to wonder what would happen if she's sneaked the medication into his food and he takes another dose without her knowing?

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      • Doubling his dosage would hardly do anything but make him feel a little groggy. He often takes a double dose if he has an important meeting or thing to do that day.

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      • Ellenna

        PS: And I just remembered something VERY important about how to relate to people with mental health issues: DON'T LIE TO THEM! They have enough problems sorting out what's real and what's not without people bullshitting them and/or being sneaky with them.

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  • Ellenna

    Unless he's a danger to himself or others when he's off his medication, I don't believe you have the right to medicate him against his will. Turn it around if you don't get my point: how would you feel if it were the other way round?

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    • When he’s having an episode or off his meds his judgement is sour.
      If he were medicated he would take his meds no problem.
      You make sure your drunk friends stay hydrated don’t you?

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      • Ellenna

        I don't have drunk friends and while I might suggest they stay hydrated I wouldn't sneak water into their bodies, assuming that were possible.

        You're being very vague about this person's behavior when he's off his medication: what exactly is the problem?

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        • He’s manic and bipolar. He goes missing, makes huge decisions on a whim, does things he’d never normally do, is impossible to reason with.

          Wakes up at 3 AM and jumps in the car and wants to take off to some state a hundred miles away because he thinks his sister is there and needs help when she lives a few blocks away and he has work in the morning.

          He wasn’t this bad when we married, he’s progressively gotten worse, despite the doctors work.

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  • paramore93

    No. This is dangerous on so many levels.
    You're treating him like a child and betraying his trust. There are too many risks to even list. You're putting both his mental and physical health at risk.

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  • azithromycin

    One more thing to add: the medications bipolars take can have very serious side effects, lithium the much used mood stabilizer can destroy thyroid permanently, depakote can cause liver injury in rare cases, tegretol and lamictal can cause serious to lethal skin reactions, antipsychotics cause serious metabolic disturbances.

    What will you do if he gets one of these serious side effects and figures out that you have been spiking his food with drugs?

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  • Skarmatic

    This is a difficult situation and I can see how you could come up with this conclusion, but it is not the solution. In a relationship, it's quite difficult when a partner isn't mentally stable and isn't wanting the help. I've been through something similar. But sneaking their pills could very well ruin your relationship, and on their side it would be really awful to know they were taking something without their consent. But if they aren't willing to get help, it strains you as a person and something that communication can only solve because clearly it's affecting you as well. If they aren't willing to take action to create a better life for themself, then they aren't trying to create a better life for you as well. As they say, if you can't take care of yourself then how can you take care of other people.

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  • azithromycin

    Damn, thats a messy situation. Ive seen how bipolars behave when off their meds.

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    • My sister is bipolar. When she isnt on her meds she is a hard person to put up with. I would never spike her drinks with her meds but I wouldnt say a word if her husband did.

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  • mauzi

    If it's harmless then how exactly is it a disorder ??

    Sneak them into his food ? you may be the mentally ill one here, strange troll :I

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    • I meant he isn’t violent or aggressive, the majority of people who I’ve ever told about his disorder has assumed he was dangerous, so I automatically assume I have to clear that up.
      It’s harmless in the sense that you shouldn’t ever have to feel worried around him. He can only cause harm to his responsibilities and his psyche.

      Pretty useless response. But thanks anyway.

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      • Ellenna

        What do you mean by "cause harm to his responsibilities and his psyche"????

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      • mauzi

        no more useless than you are at communicating with your S/O

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        • You’re very unaware of the little differences that being in a relationship with someone who is atypical mentally requires.
          When he keeps up with his medication he takes it on his own no problem, but on the off times he misses a dosage or during an episode is when I have to step in. He wants to be on his medication, but when he’s off of it he goes against his better judgement and refuses it.

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          • Ellenna

            You don't "have to step in", you are choosing to do so. In the absence of any clear information from you about what the problem actually is with his behavior, I'm reaching the view that you're a control freak.

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            • Mrown

              I think the OP made herself pretty clear in her other comments (if you bothered to read them). He is a danger to himself if he goes missing in the middle of the night and drives hundreds of miles to visit his sister that lives only few blocks away and doesn't come to work the next day.

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          • MN

            considering the situation, since his judgements a little askew when hes off it. and the fact he says, when on it, that he wants to take it, makes it completely ok.

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          • mauzi

            K, then why are you asking if it's wrong?

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            • I’m not. Just asking others if they see it the same way I do.
              Made a “drunk person” analogy in the comments that I think you might better see my side.

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  • WHAT THE FUCK!

    The best times of my life are when I'm like that, and you want to take that away, the fuck...

    I guess if he's got commitments then yeah perhaps he shouldn't, but does what he do cause problems?

    By the way, I'm schizophrenic and they don't force me take my meds...

    Also, what you're doing is illegal, and you don't think about things like what if he's taking something else which interacts with the drugs and could kill/harm him.

    Why doesn't he take the meds? Is it because he feels he loses his energy and feels depressed because of it? Or something else?

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  • FromTheSouthWeirdMan

    Yeah you should do it

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  • I personally don't think this is that bad, because he may not be entirely mentally competent, and you'll also have to deal with whatever trouble he causes by being off his meds.

    Strictly morally speaking, however, I think what you're doing is wrong, because you're violating his bodily autonomy and his trust.

    As other commenters have said, drugging him could also be dangerous. What if he takes another medicine, or does something without your knowledge that shouldn't be mixed with the drugs you're spiking his food with?

    The fact that he could be suffering side effects from the drugs, and mistake them for another sickness could add to this risk.

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  • dimwitted

    If it was my spouse, I'd do it. However before you married him, did you know about his condition?

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    • Nope. Neither of us knew. It developed and progressed over the few years and continues to worsen every day.

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  • Guess its ok, as long as you don't get upset when you find he has been putting drugs in your tea to get what he wants

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  • bigbudchonga

    No, I think it's wrong, but I can see how something like this is morally grey, and that a lot of people would think it's the right thing to do. If you are going to do it then make sure you do it every day. Anti-depressants take weeks of taking them for them to work, and they're addictive.

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    • Ellenna

      I doubt very much if he'd be on anti depressants for bi polar, more likely anti psychotics

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  • RoseIsabella

    I wouldn't have time for any of that business.

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  • bbrown95

    This is a sticky situation.

    On one hand, as someone who was put on medications that did nothing but harm me throughout my adolescence and would never in a million years go back, I would be absolutely livid if I found out they were being snuck into my food.

    On the other, I've met some people who seriously needed their medications, yet refused to take them, and their lives were always in turmoil because of it. However, I don't know that I could force it on them. I really don't know what I would do except try my best to convince them that they need to take them. If that doesn't work, it just seems like you're between a rock and a hard place.

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  • Doesnormalmatter

    Very tough call. Based on what I know, I would say what your doing isn't wrong, however I would not consider it the best course of action. I would explain to him that he is better off with meds and there is nothing wrong with taking them. Communucation is key in a relationship and what your doing is kind of a band aid to cover up the problem instead of fixing it ats its root. Improve your communication.

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    • Yup, when medicated he takes and sticks to his regimen, it’s only the times he’s having an episode or missed a dose does he refuse to take it.
      I equate it to making a drunk person drink water, if they were sober they’d do it on their own, when drunk they are just unreasonable.

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      • Doesnormalmatter

        I dunno if that changes anything. Maybe speak to whatever doctor he has or perscribed him the meds about his refusal of use. I'm sure its not an unheard of issue.

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        • Going to reply here and not entertain your other comments which my close friend duft decided to rile up.

          Right now it’s a battle of how much he can take and how close together, the issue is his medication wears off before his next dose. We’re close to making a transition to taking his pills every 6 hours instead of every 8.

          Like I’ve stated, when he’s medicated, he happily takes his next dose, when the medication has worn off it’s “Screw that, screw my job, I’m going to Texas”

          The /only/ time I ever slip him his medication is when he’s having an episode.

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          • mauzi

            Still no mention of what the prescribing doctor has to say about any of this, which is all that would really matter.

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            • I brought up his refusal to take his medication, and the strategic solution is in the second section in my above comment. In short: he won’t take his medication because he becomes unreasonable before his next dose, solution, he will take his next dose before becoming unreasonable.

              I was told to “make sure he takes them” and that’s what I do. He may not “take” them but they are in eventually.

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        • mauzi

          Exactly, if this was real she would consult his doctor rather than trolling on this site. This kind of story gets posted about every other week too, most likely just some weirdo looking for attention.

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          • Doesnormalmatter

            It could quite possibly be a troll. And it does make it suspicious that no medical authorities were mentioned, but I'm bored so I'll play along just in case haha.

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            • mauzi

              Yeah lol they asked our opinion then got bitchy when it was given, so fuck'em. I am pretty sure no doctor would recommend sneaking medications into a "harmless" adult's food like he is a dog.

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            • Ellenna

              I don't think OP is a troll, but I do think she's in a very difficult situation and I feel sorry for her. However, I don't believe that's a good reason for secretly medicating her husband.

              My late father was weird & paranoid most of his life, but became even more so in old age. My mother mentioned it to their gp, who prescribed valium, telling him it was a "tonic to make him feel better", which it did. However I think that doctor was unethical to do so, although I understand my mother supporting it, because her life was much more peaceful after that. Eventually after my father died her life was much more peaceful and even fun without him around being suspicious of everyone.

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      • Ellenna

        I went to AlAnon for quite a few months before it became 100% clear to me that I can't change an alcoholic person's behavior and in my opinion the same thing applies here.

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  • chuy

    Send him to a mental institution asap.

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