Why do some gay people believe in god?

All religions say homosexuality isn't a thing and that all relationships are between men and women and some even say in their biblical books that they go to hell if they're gay. So why do some gay people believe in god if god would never accept them?

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  • 1234tellmethatyoulovememore

    "All religions" don't say homosexuality is a sin.

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    • Ellenna

      Please name one that doesn't

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      • 1234tellmethatyoulovememore

        Neo pagan religions

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        • Ellenna

          True: I was thinking of religions as hierarchical patriarchal organisations and from what little I know, pagans are quite different

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    • Chap

      Most do

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  • 1WeirdGuy

    Why would you not believe in something just because you dont agree with it? If you believe its true then you believe its true. Too many ppl use conformation bias when choosing religion. "Oh I dont want to be a jew because I want to eat pork" thats just admitting you believe the religion is bullshit before you choose it.

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  • Tommythecaty

    Because views on sexuality have nothing to do with the existence of something you dildo.

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  • bigbudchonger

    Not all religions have said that throughout time (esspecially in ancient times) and there is something innate to many men which makes them want to believe in a god.

    In short, being gay is not mutually exclusive to believing in a god.

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  • Boojum

    Because there's no correlation between sexual orientation and rationality, intelligence or common sense, and because we're all prone to cling to delusional beliefs which make us feel better about ourselves and how the world and the cosmos works.

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  • olderdude-xx

    Why do heterosexual people believe in God? The answer to both this and your question is the same.

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    • No it's not because being straight isn't a sin

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      • Clunk42

        Being homosexual isn't a sin, either. The sin is participating in sexual acts outside of marriage.

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      • olderdude-xx

        If "straight" people did not sin.... I'm not sure that most of the worlds largest religions would even exist.

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      • Hookerfall

        It should be as men are dick thinkers and objectify women.
        There is new Bible and it condemns men to hell if they stick dick in vag

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  • Somenormie

    Some do it because they want something to believe in and I'm pretty sure homosexuality was frowned upon on during the old world days.

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    • LloydAsher

      And still is looked down upon in barbaric nations. Hell in iran it's better to transition into a woman than it is to be gay. One you'll be shunned as an outcast the other is an invitation to be thrown off of a roof.

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  • Correction

    Why do people who wear mixed fabrics believe in god? Why do people who plant mixed seeds together believe in god? Why do people who have tattoos believe in god? Why do men who shave their beard believe in god? Most straight people don’t follow the nonsense of the Old Testament so there’s no reason for gay people to be any different.

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  • Grunewald

    The Bible doesn't say that people who are gay go to hell. The concept of 'being' gay as an orientation or an identity wasn't mainstream til the 19th century. That was 19 or 18 centuries after the final book of the Bible was written.

    The Bible does reference sex acts between members of the same sex. No, the connotations of those sex acts are not positive. Some people say that this is because the Biblical 'gold standard' for sexual relationships is one man and one woman. Others say that homosexual acts get a bad rap in the Bible because of the bad circumstances surrounding the individual situtions described, and not directly because of the homosexual sex - maintaining also that the Bible writers were biased because of the prejudices of the times. Still others say that the Bible itself does not proscribe relationships that do not follow the 'gold standard'. To which others would respond, 'why would a sincere worshipper of God settle for less than the recommended arrangement?', and yet others, "Who's calling it a 'gold standard'?".

    As for it being bizarre for people who identify as gay to believe in God:
    1) See above.
    2) There's virtually nothing else that we refuse to believe in the existence of just because it seems grizzly to us, so why would the unattractiveness of God make him less credible? I mean, if there is a grizzly bear behind you, you're not going to just decide that it doesn't exist!

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    • Boojum

      "I mean, if there is a grizzly bear behind you, you're not going to just decide that it doesn't exist!"

      If I ever happened to be taking a stroll through the Tyrol and I encountered someone on the path who told me that a grizzly bear was stalking me, of course I'd take a look back. But if I heard and saw no evidence of the bear, I'd consider that it's a proven fact that there are no bears of that species roaming the Alps, and I would then conclude that the grizzly bear did not exist.

      If the stranger emphatically claimed that the bear had to exist because they believed it existed, and they told me this conviction was based on what they'd read in a book written by Bronze Age people where there is a passage which sorta implies that maybe something kinda like a grizzly bear lived in a mountainous area that sounded a bit like the Alps, I would conclude that they were a delusional nutter.

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      • Grunewald

        Well, I did take a look back, and I have enough evidence to be certified that he is there, and so do many other people. But I'm not going to treat people who don't agree with me as if they're stupid, or the case for atheism as if it's a non-question, as you seem to be treating theism. That way, all we end up with is a pantomimish 'Oh, no God isn't' / 'Oh, yes God is'. Your case isn't proven by the tenacity with which you shut your ears to the other side. We all make our choices. With those come consequences. I would add also that the burden of being tolerant and courteous towards people we disagree with should not fall more on theists than on atheists, if in your view, we theists are supposedly the degenerate or 'primitive' ones and you are more enlightened.

        And God is not properly speaking akin to a grizzly bear, as I have made him out to be. But as with water, or with fire, it can be supposed that messing with God, assuming that God is real, can have grave consequences. That's part and parcel of what a god can be expected to be like.

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        • dude_Jones

          Okay, so back to the original post. Sounds like you're saying many homos belong to "cafeteria" denominations. Meaning that they choose a few ideas from the Bronze Age folklore that they are comfortable with. They do not choose the stuff that doesn't interest them. They live their life THEIR way loosely compliant to general Christian values. When they see you, Ruthie at church, they assume you're cool with them just because they showed up for the service. Actually, they don't care what you think, and they have a condom in their pocket at the ready to give to a friend in need, as a helpful sign of good will.

          Seriously, could you clarify a bit in the context of the 'gay' faithful.

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          • Grunewald

            Everyone makes their choices. If a truth is important enough to you, you endure discomfort in order to stand by it, because it's worth it.

            As for me, I try to be cool with everyone so long as they don't threaten or disrespect me.

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            • dude_Jones

              Nice point. I endure the discomfort of agnosticism (which is uncertainty) to stand by it. The discomfort for me is almost negligible. By default then, math, science, and logic would be my religion. It does not ask for faith, but for rigor, and abstract intelligence.

              Different strokes for different folks.

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  • S0UNDS_WEIRD

    Because if the promise of potential eternal life is sufficiently enticing so as to convince oneself that tales of talking snakes aren't contradictory to observed reality, it's more than sufficiently enticing so as to convince oneself that rather direct, condemning lines don't actually mean what they say.

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  • There's lots of things that are "forbidden" according to the bible. Why would whom someone falls in love with matter more than those things. Hardcore christians are probably the most
    hypocritical types of people out there.
    One has to keep in mind that times were different when the bible was written, humans didn't know much about the world and now we know way more. Gay people can be religious because many churches have updated their view on homosexuality just like they've updated their view on other things too. To me God is just the source of all good, not some actual man. As for Jesus, well he accepted all kinds of people and had he arrived to earth nowadays i'm sure he would've been accepting of gay people.
    Times change, you can't live word by word after a book written as long ago as the bible. That would be holding yourself back, and those who do follow religious scripture word by word are typically the most violent and evil of people. They run cults and they start wars, things we should know better than to do nowadays. In my opinion religious scripture can have some nice messages and cool stories and it's a good idea to follow the general message of being good people. That's probably how many people nowadays see it too, including gays.

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  • LloydAsher

    Whatever makes you be a better person. Religion is a pretty good route to take to be a decent person.

    Some religions though are severely outdated for their usefulness..

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    • S0UNDS_WEIRD

      I would say a great deal of religions are an absolutely horrible route to take to be a good person if accurately followed. Luckily many religious people have started twisting the teachings via endless gymnastics so as to pretend a great deal of the most horrific things commanded actually meant other things.

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      • LloydAsher

        I mean people taking the moderate routes. But yeah religion can get downright wrong if taken literally. The best ones just take their holy books as a bunch of metaphors with strict parameters for how one composes themselves.

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  • Clunk42

    Because their hatred towards God is greater than those who don't believe.

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  • Irizu3748392746483938

    Because it's not true.

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