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I would say the moderately obese person who eats healthy food and exercises often. Obviously obesity isn't healthy, but putting nutritious and good quality food into your body and getting plenty of exercise is vital to your body's health, and is so much better for you than being sedentary and filling your body with garbage. I've come to learn that thin =/= healthy, as I've met thin people who sit all day and eat nothing but crappy processed foods, and they have no energy, feel like crap all the time, and have difficulty performing simple tasks. I even know one who was pre-diabetic as a teen. When I was overweight, I could still out-work some of my thinner friends who were very sedentary and ate nothing but processed foods, and it was very concerning how little activity wore them out with how young we all were. I think living an unhealthy lifestyle typically eventually catches up with people too, no matter how thin they stay or how long they get away with it while they're younger.
Obviously, it's ideal to be at a healthy weight while eating a nutritious and balanced diet and getting plenty of exercise, but a poor lifestyle in general is unhealthy.
I started only eating meals I've prepared, mostly as a way to save money. I started eating much healthier and doing cardio at the gym a few times a week. I only lost about 10 pounds but people usually think I look like I've lost 25 because I burned some fat but mainly was building muscle beneath the fat, which kept me almost the same weight. I don't think I look that great, but damn I just FEEL better--more energy, not having to maneuver around my own body, and I don't have that gross post-fast food greasy feeling when you eat out a lot
I began eating cardiovascular foods and taking nootropics and fish oil capsules, these are quality I suppose and don't cost the earth, but the oil showing inside so many of the capsules is disgusting, it's like viscous greasy fluid in my mouth.
I don't think you're supposed to pop them in your mouth
That's great! I'm the same way, I always feel better eating right and exercising vs. eating like crap and being sedentary!
I'm the slim person who eats junk food and sits all day
I would say the slim person. The obese person wouldn't be obese in that situation, and if they have a thyroid problem, I'm not sure how healthy that is.
The obese person's healthier, one day the slim person will become fat.
The person who is morbidly will get loose skin after exercising eventually.
The moderately obese person but with exercise and diet they'll become healthy
Can you be obese if you eat healthy food and exercise often? I know you can be overweight alright (I've seen overweight marathon runners), but I wouldn't think you could be obese with that kind of lifestyle.
Of course you can, if your calorie input exceeds your calorie output. What if you eat a 5000 calorie bag of walnuts in a day?
Exactly. All it takes is a calorie surplus.
If your common meal amount is equal 2 pounds of chicken not smothered in butter or condiments, 3 salads that aren't drenched in dressing, and 2 healthy smoothies- you're not thin.
It can however take a surplus of oil/fat, or a surplus of cholesterol, I don't know how the latter works when you don't eat meat, the doctors haven't taught me to eat right, I had to do my research to know what's good and feel good.
You can, but it almost always indicates a thyroid problem.
There are several other conditions that can cause overweight as well.
However, someone overweight but doing regular exercises is healthier than someone not exercising. Many medical studies on that.
I have hypothyroidism I'm not obese.. you have to eat healthy and low cal to maintain your weight one cookie and it's over. Overweight is normal for hypothyroidism but to be obese with hypothyroidism means you're not eating healthy.
When I eat healthy with hypo and normal cals I'm overweight. But obesity would be slightly overeating. Right now I'm thin with hypo but I only eat 1000 cals a day to maintain 125 pounds.
I'm on a healthy diet but I'm not trying to lose weight, I feel good on the inside, and it's food that's the medicine, the fact that a man needs so many meds means they have pessimal health. My health from 18 years was pretty bad, I haven't declined on cake, later on it was causing heart problems until I stopped eating cake. However about my thyroid there's only one thing wrong with my larynx, it gets sore when I smoke, I take throat lozenges and it feels easier.
Yes some ppl gain weight easier but everyone can lose weight with diet. It sounds fucked up but think about it no one at auschwitz had any problems losing weight. If you dont eat you lose weight.
Yeah you really can't unless it's some rare illness but the average person couldn't be obese and eat healthy and exercise lol
there's health issues that can make it extremely difficult to lose weight even if you're eating healthy/exercising like PCOS or hypothyroidism
It's deceptive, those slimming foods aren't working. Plus exercise is supposed to be heart-healthy. Also the reality is if you don't fit in your jeans or your Sunday dress there's a problem.
It's deceptive because it seems like the moderately obese person is the healthier one, but it turns out he has AIDS
Yeah, fat people can be healthy too.
Slim person will live longer
It's so strange that people like you can be presented with the most easy questions ever, with the most obvious answer and tons of proof to back it up, and still pick the dumbest possible choice.
Being obese is more of a strain on your heart than being slim. Even if the slim person is eating crappier food being obese is over working your heart. You will have more issues with your heart when you are elderly.
And look this up, one of the best measures for heart risk is measuring your waist to height ratio. Also being obese puts you at higher risk for diabetes and joint pain etc.
When you read the word "obese" you're thinking "mobility scooter at Walmart" when you should be thinking "average American person".
I'll just quote an article since it words this better than I could:
"Steven Blair is professor of exercise science at the University of South Carolina. He describes the official focus on obesity as an "obsession ... and it's not grounded in solid data".
Blair's most fascinating study, in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 2007, took 2,600 people aged 60 and above, of various degrees of fatness, and tested their fitness on the treadmill, rather than asking them to quantify it themselves. This is an unusually rigorous approach, he claims, since many rival surveys ask participants to assess their own fitness, or ignore it as a factor altogether. Proper tests, Blair suggests, demonstrate no hard and fast link between excess weight and increased mortality.
"There is an 'association' between obesity and fitness," he agrees, "but it is not perfect. If you look at the normal-weight men and women aged 60 and older, for example, about 90% are fit as demonstrated by a 'maximal exercise' test in the laboratory. This is not asking them if they're fit, or guessing that they're fit – they've proved it on the treadmill. As you progress towards overweight, class I obesity and class II obesity, the percentage of individuals who are fit does go down. But here's a shock: among class II obese individuals [with a body mass index, or BMI, of between 35 and 39.9], about 40% or 45% are still fit. You simply cannot tell by looking whether someone is fit or not."
But doesn't that only prove that some fat people can hold their own on the treadmill? Not at all, Blair says. "In all of these studies, we typically see higher rates of mortality, chronic diseases, heart attacks and the like, in people with high BMI – we see the same thing that everybody else sees. But when we look at these mortality rates in fat people who are fit, we see that the harmful effect of fat just disappears.
"If we look at individuals who are obese and just moderately fit – we're not talking about marathon runners here – their death rate during the next decade is half that of the normal weight people who are unfit. So it's a huge effect." "
There you have it! Now you know that a fit obese person is better off than an unfit average weight person. Though I know you'll keep responding, people who read this comment can now know that you are spreading misinformation and to not listen to what you say. Goodbye! :)
On harvards own website it says "The idea that someone can be "fat and fit" — that is, overweight but still healthy — has been around for some time. But don't be fooled."
There's been many studies that indicated the opposite of that study you posted. You sound like you believe this is a consensus amongst all doctors and researchers but its not. There's a lot of doctors that disagree with that study you cited including harvard. There's been dozens of studies that indicated the opposite of that study you posted.
Dont take it personal I'm not trying to attack your world view or anything.
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